I watched a film breakdown by Bobby Skinner earlier and was impressed. Stumbled across another breakdown that was much longer and detailed and still very impressed.
We spent a lot of cyber ink worrying about the loss of Tomlinson and speculating on how we could sign Williams and him. The film study suggests a near painless transition.
Except in the matter of salaries, if I'm reading it right we are paying Shelton a paltry million dollars with a cap hit of under a million and Minnesota is paying Tomlinson over 10 million a year on a 2 year contract. That doesn't sound right, and I'm not going to put in the effort to double-check, but that's what I read.?????
Lawrence, Williams and Shelton three muskateers weighing in at well over half a ton. I wonder if that's the biggest three of all time. I wonder too if increased cafeteria expenses are budgeted for.
Wondering what the general opinion is: is Shelton the equal of Tomlinson straight up; is Shelton much better value then Tomlinson and are we actually - when the cap ramifications are included - ahead of the game?
With the additions of Azeez Ojulari, Ryan Anderson, and Elerson Smith I expect the Giants to decrease the number of snaps from the NT position.
Zero drop off when it comes to clogging the line of scrimmage. There will be a drop off in other areas.
Correct, these are the type of moves that good FO's make. Find a suitable replacement for a fraction of the cost while using that money to address other holes.
However, I believe in the Giants situation it was better asset allocation to move on from him. The current players on the roster plus the addition of Shelton is an above average group, a really good group even.
Shelton is on the downside of his career though and will need to be replaced, Tomlinson will be with the Vikings for many years. So more assets, Money or Draft Picks, will be need in the future to replace Tomlinson. But as far as this year, it's a big savings and better value. The long term is yet to be determined.
However, I believe in the Giants situation it was better asset allocation to move on from him. The current players on the roster plus the addition of Shelton is an above average group, a really good group even.
Shelton is on the downside of his career though and will need to be replaced, Tomlinson will be with the Vikings for many years. So more assets, Money or Draft Picks, will be need in the future to replace Tomlinson. But as far as this year, it's a big savings and better value. The long term is yet to be determined.
Shelton is just 8 months older than Tomlinson. I am not saying that Shelton is a long term option but he should be a suitable replacement for at least a year. I think the Giants will draft a DL early next year with Shelton, Johnson, and BJ Hill becoming FA's.
Donnie Shelton........27
Dalvin Tomlinson......27
Dek Lawrence..........23
I think Tomlinson does not get enough credit for how much he helped free up LW allowing LW to rack up sacks. I think it was more meaningful than people realize.
Hopefully that money we didn’t pay Tomlinson and was spent on Adoree will have some of the same effect. Elite secondary giving the QB no where to go, so he has to hold it longer, allowing LW more opportunities for sacks.
Donnie Shelton........27
Dalvin Tomlinson......27
Dek Lawrence..........23
Wow. Didn’t know that. Seems like he has been in the league a long time. Maybe it’s just the multiple teams.
The big concern with Shelton is the injuries. If he is healthy he is a very good player. 350 lbs is tough to move. With have some very big men in our front seven.
The big concern with Shelton is the injuries. If he is healthy he is a very good player. 350 lbs is tough to move. With have some very big men in our front seven.
That's why I wasn't too upset when he signed with the Vikings. Tomlinson's play improved significantly when Leonard Williams arrived. Was that a coincidence or was he just benefitting from all the attention directed at Williams?
The Giants DL was so good last year that they got a bigger payday I guess.
You’re missing the fact that Shelton is clearly NOT as good as Tomlinson. There is a reason Tomlinson was a captain and Shelton was a benchwarmer.
He’s been a starter from day one, hasn’t missed a game, and has near or above 600 snaps a year.
Shelton for most of his career has been a part time, rotational player, who’s a much less effective play maker. He’s also played too heavy a few times and had some injuries.
Yes, the Market determines and the market has made a clear statement here.
Having said that, and acknowledging that I'm an amateur, I can't see the same truths people much smarter than me see. That's tortured syntax , but it's the way I feel.
I just don't see that much difference between the two. And almost feel the need to apologize and recognize I'm wrong, still.......