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Gil Brandt’s top 5 2021 off-seasons

Big Blue '56 : 5/6/2021 11:19 am
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And how about this: the New York Giants coming in at No. 5 on Brandt’s list.

Quarterback Daniel Jones is heading into a sink-or-swim Year 3 -- but never let it be said GM Dave Gettleman didn’t do everything in his power to give him the weapons needed to succeed. Receivers Kenny Golladay (signed on a four-year, $72 million contract) and Kadarius Toney (drafted 20th overall after Gettleman, yes, traded down!) and versatile tight end Kyle Rudolph (signed to a two-year, $14 million deal) join a skill-position group that will be further augmented by the return to health of running back Saquon Barkley.

On defense, Gettleman secured a long-term agreement with centerpiece defensive lineman Leonard Williams. He also rolled the dice on comeback Adoree’ Jackson (three years, $39 million) rebounding from the knee injury that ruined his 2020 season. Another move that could pay huge dividends: snagging pass rusher Azeez Ojulari, a first-round talent who slipped to the second round.



The Top 4:

1-Bucs

2-Pats

3-Jags

4-Jets

Deets for those teams when you click on lonk




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This offseason has had the feel of the 2005 offseason  
Chris684 : 5/6/2021 11:34 am : link
which was when, as well all know, the infrastructure the 2007-2011 runs was completed.

Burress, K-Mac, Pierce, Jacobs, Webster, Tuck

Who knows what the future holds and obviously all of it depends on whether or not Jones answers the questions at QB. I like where we're at though.
RE: This offseason has had the feel of the 2005 offseason  
Rjanyg : 5/6/2021 11:42 am : link
In comment 15256300 Chris684 said:
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which was when, as well all know, the infrastructure the 2007-2011 runs was completed.

Burress, K-Mac, Pierce, Jacobs, Webster, Tuck

Who knows what the future holds and obviously all of it depends on whether or not Jones answers the questions at QB. I like where we're at though.


Totally agree. It has been a very good offseason.
Btw?  
Big Blue '56 : 5/6/2021 11:44 am : link
I think K-Mac played at a HOF level for most of his 11 years
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/6/2021 11:49 am : link
And if DJ sinks, we got assets to go get a QB/trade up & draft one.
Not sure we have the assets for a new QB if we need one  
GiantSteps : 5/6/2021 12:17 pm : link
(and I don't think we do)

PHI and MIA will most likely have more draft capital, and they will have some decisions to make about their QBs next year too.

If it turns into a pissing contest for the best QB next year, we might not be able to win it.
I think Miami  
thevett : 5/6/2021 12:45 pm : link
Would be a good landing spot for Rodgers
RE: I think Miami  
Thegratefulhead : 5/6/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15256424 thevett said:
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Would be a good landing spot for Rodgers
I bet money he is a Bronco not long after June 1st.
RE: RE: I think Miami  
Big Blue '56 : 5/6/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15256441 Thegratefulhead said:
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Would be a good landing spot for Rodgers

I bet money he is a Bronco not long after June 1st.


Fo they actually have to WAIT for June 1st any longer? They can designate June 1st before the actual date, correct?
Sink Or Swim?  
Trainmaster : 5/6/2021 1:04 pm : link
Thanks to BB56 for posting Gil Brandt's assessment.

I take issue with the "Sink or swim" narrative that is out there on Daniel Jones, really?

Of course this year is an important year for Jones. Just about every year is important for a quarterback, particularly a young quarterback. And yes, it's particularly important for a young quarterback that many / most feel hasn't lived up to his potential or been given the opportunity to show his potential in his first two years.

Was 2006 a sink or swim year for Eli? Many / most of us had doubts about Eli through most of the 2007 reason season, his 4th year.

How about 1981 for Phil Simms? Did Simms "sink" after 1981? Giants fans weren't convinced about Simms until 1984.

Yes, in today's NFL QBs don't get 4 or 5 mediocre years before they are cast aside.

Maybe this is semantics, but 2021 is a pivotal year for Jones; yes. Sink or swim / make or break; I'm not sure.

I think it highly likely Daniel Jones is the Giants QB in 2022, therefore 2021, although important, is not sink or swim.



Yeah, I tend to agree re sink or swim. I doubt it  
Big Blue '56 : 5/6/2021 1:08 pm : link
unless he actually Terps it, which I strongly doubt.

Yes, I wanted both Eli and Simms gone at the junctures you cited
RE: RE: RE: I think Miami  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2021 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15256467 Big Blue '56 said:
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Would be a good landing spot for Rodgers

I bet money he is a Bronco not long after June 1st.



Fo they actually have to WAIT for June 1st any longer? They can designate June 1st before the actual date, correct?

I know they can designate a 6/1 release in advance. I'm not sure if the same flexibility exists for trades.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I think Miami  
Big Blue '56 : 5/6/2021 1:15 pm : link
In comment 15256480 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Would be a good landing spot for Rodgers

I bet money he is a Bronco not long after June 1st.



Fo they actually have to WAIT for June 1st any longer? They can designate June 1st before the actual date, correct?


I know they can designate a 6/1 release in advance. I'm not sure if the same flexibility exists for trades.


Ah, gotcha
RE: RE: This offseason has had the feel of the 2005 offseason  
x meadowlander : 5/6/2021 1:18 pm : link
In comment 15256317 Rjanyg said:
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which was when, as well all know, the infrastructure the 2007-2011 runs was completed.

Burress, K-Mac, Pierce, Jacobs, Webster, Tuck

Who knows what the future holds and obviously all of it depends on whether or not Jones answers the questions at QB. I like where we're at though.



Totally agree. It has been a very good offseason.
Agree - I am waiting for that moment when my suspicions and concerns about the OL disappear - when O'Hara and Diehl both proved they could play well, everything changed for that team - I still feel this OL is missing a couple of pieces. We need a SNEE.
RE: Not sure we have the assets for a new QB if we need one  
santacruzom : 5/6/2021 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15256377 GiantSteps said:
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PHI and MIA will most likely have more draft capital, and they will have some decisions to make about their QBs next year too.


I can definitely see competing with PHI if we need a QB, but I'm pretty confident in Tua having a good enough performance for MIA to cross QB off their list for 2022.
It was a good offseason  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/6/2021 3:08 pm : link
How well Jones and the OL will dictate it translates imo. If they both do not improve significantly we will see similar results.
Not sold on Tua at all  
BSIMatt : 5/6/2021 3:10 pm : link
I don’t think Miami is either from everything I’ve read in offseason. They could easily be back in play next year for QB, in fact I’m expecting them to be.
Jets at 4?  
D HOS : 5/6/2021 3:11 pm : link
They had a good offseason but fourth best? I flip 4 & 5...
I thin if Jones  
winoguy : 5/7/2021 7:56 am : link
sinks a big part of it could be because of the OL. So you kick him to the curb, draft another one high, give him a shitty OL and plan for better results?
RE: RE: Not sure we have the assets for a new QB if we need one  
US1 Giants : 5/7/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15256594 santacruzom said:
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PHI and MIA will most likely have more draft capital, and they will have some decisions to make about their QBs next year too.




I can definitely see competing with PHI if we need a QB, but I'm pretty confident in Tua having a good enough performance for MIA to cross QB off their list for 2022.


The Athletic recently had a 2022 mock that had 4 QB in the top 10 and 5 in the top 15.
RE: Jets at 4?  
BamaBlue : 5/7/2021 8:37 am : link
In comment 15256645 D HOS said:
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They had a good offseason but fourth best? I flip 4 & 5...


Jets are a trendy pick... much like the Patriots. No matter what the Patriots do in the draft, the draftniks laud their genius. The root of their reputation was earned by winning (a lot), but that ship seems to have sailed into the sunset. I think we see the Patriots, slowly loosing their magic and mystique as the Bills, Dolphins and even the (ugh) Jets get better.
RE: RE: Jets at 4?  
Big Blue '56 : 5/7/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15257334 BamaBlue said:
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They had a good offseason but fourth best? I flip 4 & 5...



Jets are a trendy pick... much like the Patriots. No matter what the Patriots do in the draft, the draftniks laud their genius. The root of their reputation was earned by winning (a lot), but that ship seems to have sailed into the sunset. I think we see the Patriots, slowly loosing their magic and mystique as the Bills, Dolphins and even the (ugh) Jets get better.


You’re probably correct. That said, I have never seen the Belichick Pats spend AS MUCH as they did in FA. Not even close imv.
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