I had the COVID and was stuck in isolation with lots of time to kill (luckily my symptoms were very mild) so I decided to go back and watch every Giants game a second time, 5 months after the season was over.
To put it bluntly, it was a totally different experience. Make no mistake about it, it was not nearly as fun, but I felt like I was able to be much more objective about performance with the outcomes already determined 5 months ago.
I learned very quickly that I am emotionally attached to the games, the players and the immediate results because that's part of the fun of being a fan during the season. It seemed like work at times (like the ARZ, Clev and Balt games) - BUT I'm glad I did it.
To completely plagiarize Peter King - these are the things I think, I think after rewatching all the games:
1.) The Giants are closer to being good than I previously thought and the reason for that is Joe Judge and his staff. Re-watching the games made it abundantly clear just how bad this roster was. There was very little talent to work with and the coaches seemed to play each game to "keep it close" because they had no shot at dominating anyone on either side of the ball. There was a three game stretch in which they were clearly outclassed after DJ was banged up or missing - The Cardinals game, the Browns game, and the Ravens game. Every other game that they played they had a legit shot at winning with some really terrible players getting significant reps.
2.) Daniel Jones is an enigma to me. Sometimes he looks every bit like an elite QB. He made some great throws into some tight windows to some bad receivers (more on that later). He is a real weapon when he is on the move, especially on designed run plays. I really do think he can be a Super Bowl winning QB - something that I DID not think before. here are the three things that bother me:
a.) Pocket Presence: he took more bad sacks than any other QBs the Giants played last year. He has to have a better understanding of where the pressure is coming from, when to get rid of the ball, and when not to press the issue. Eli had similar issues and he is a HOF. I do think DJ can get better with this.
b.) Protect Himself: make no mistake about it - he is an absolute WEAPON with the ball in his hands, but he took some absolute shots from defenders too frequently. He's not a small guy - it's not like RG3 out there or anything - but man did he get walloped too often for my liking. He's a gamer, which I love, but he was definitely nursing a serious injury after he was hurt in the Cincy game. He was just a different player after that.
c.) Decision Making: He threw some INTs that were not his fault, but he also threw some INTs that were bad and they were at bad times. The INTs at the end of the Bears and Rams games really stick out in my mind. Again, this is something Eli struggled with throughout his career and he got better when his weapons improved b/c not every throw had to be perfect. I think this will get better too.
3.) The Giants WRs stunk. I was completely wrong about this. They had no one that could break a tackle or run away from a defender. They had no one that could create significant separation consistently. There were very few plays in which I felt like a WR really battled to get into the end zone and make a highlight type run after the catch. Slayton is really good against CBs that would be considered JAGS (it was clear he wasn't the same player after the WFT game due to injury). Next year, with Kenny G on the scene - he's going to have a lot of favorable matchups, but he is no WR1. Shep is another enigma - there are times where I think he's a really good slot WR and other times where he goes long stretches and disappears. CJ Board, D. Rattley, Mack, and G. Tate (he had the worst body language of any player I saw) all played significant minutes and they all stink. We could have had BIll Walsh as the OC and he wasn't dialing up any offense with these guys. Garrett is better than many give him credit for.
4.) A healthy Barkley is going to run for 1700 yards and 15 TDS behind this OL. They turned a corner in the 2nd half of the Rams game and were a different group (they were bad in the Cardinals game) after that. Gallman, Morris, Lewis and Freeman left a TON of yards on the table. None of them could make anyone miss at the second level, none of them could break a tackle, and none of them were running away from anyone. The yards they did get were b/c of the offense line. At different points during the season they were really able to push some DLs around.
5.) The defense was the definition of bend but don't break despite having to play some really terrible defenders significant snaps. Bradberry is very good, but teams just stopped throwing in his direction b/c the other guy was just so bad. Yiadom, Lewis and Ballentine cost them a few games early in the year. None of them are good and were targeted A LOT. I think Love and Ryan are very similar players.
6.) LW is a star. I don't understand why people didn't want to pay him. Dalvin is going to be missed, but I'm interested in what A. Johnson can do with more snaps. He flashed quite a bit during the season. THat DL last year was very good - especially in the red zone. The Giants defense in the red zone, as a whole, was very good. Meanwhile, the Giants offense was terrible in the red zone.
7.) Evan Engram was better than I thought. If he could somehow find a way to get more consistent with his hands, he would be a star. He was the only guy on that offense that could get open with any kind of regularity. Garrett really made him the focal point of the offense b/c everyone else was bad. I think with Rudolph on the team next year - he can really be a difference maker because he won't have to run so many stick routes to the marker.
8.) Special teams were a mixed bag - which was a surprise being that Judge is the coach and the Giants special teams had been pretty good recently. Gano was very good. They had some untimely special team lapses which was very disappointing to see.
9.) I hate to say this, but I think the Giants were pretty unlucky last year. There were some crazy plays, ref calls, events that just killed them this year that seemed out of proportion compared to the teams they played. I get super angry when calls go against the Giants in the heat of the battle and my wife loves to poke the bear with comments like, "you wouldn't say that if it were against the Giants". But even watching it later, minus the emotion, it felt disproportionate. The crazy 4th down conversion in the Bears game and the fist Dallas game was riddled with calls the went against the Giants - that's just two that really stuck out in my mind. I guess the old saying that good teams make their own luck is true - the Giants lost a lot of games.
10.) The Giants schedule last year was hard. I am not overlooking the fact that the NFC east was not good...but they are still divisional games. Even when teams are bad, they always play divisional foes differently. Outside their own division, they played only 2 teams that had a losing record - the 49ers and Bengals. That schedule was no joke. It doesn't look like next year is going to be much easier, but they will be battle tested and have proven that they can hang.
If you actually read this far - I really feel like the arrow on this team is pointing up. I loved the draft and FA cycle and think the Giants have put themselves in a good spot moving forward. The optimist in me sees a franchise that has turned the corner.
The Giants offseason just seems even better and better when you read a review like that. Although they did get Golladay and Jackson, I was happy they got another weapon in the 1st and another CB in the 3rd.
The Giants had some talent last year, but what they lacked was depth. They have gotten depth in a lot of areas where they were weak last year.
I had the same general impression last year. The Giants are clearly better than their record. Daniel Jones is good and cut down the turnovers a lot. Really looking forward to seeing the impact of Barkley plus the new players.
If the Giants spend a 1st and a 2nd next year on interior offensive lineman, this team will be scary.
Agree with this. This write up is much closer to my own memory of the season.
some of the away Dallas game stuff was just brutal too. The perfect special teams call by Judge only to have it screwed up by someone (Fleming?) not being set...ugh
One thing to keep in mind - you mentioned how terrible some of the starters were.
These players backups filled out the special teams.
We can see it now - but Judge focuses on the mid to bottom of the roster with a closer eye than most. Hopefully we'll see a special teams improvement.
Lots of very good insights.
I'm glad your symptoms were only mild and you beat the virus.
And getting Bradberry some help outside is crucial. It is really impressive how well the defense played considering who was playing 2nd CB. Adding talent to that group, with a hopefully enhanced pass rush, could make this defense really good.
The O-line improvement will have to be internal, as there were no real “adds”. Solder may not be an improvement over Fleming. WR group improvement will all be external, since no one from the 2020 group should be expected to improve, and probably all will be gone except for Slayton and a couple of practice squad players. TE will improve if Engram is not the primary. Not sure Barkley will ever again be what he was in 2018.
I’m not sure there will be any internal improvement from the defense, except for McKinney getting more playing time. After Bradberry and maybe Holmes, the CBs were just placeholders and will probably be replaced by Jackson and the two draftees. No improvement from 2020 LBs since I’m not sure Ximines or Carter can recover their former potential. Better edge play will come from the “adds”.
Punters and kickers go in cycles so I expect punting and punt coverage to be better. Gano probably can’t perform better than he did. Giants need a special teams leader. Ebner was at the end of the road.
I really think we win the division and if we don't, it is going to be at the feet of Daniel Jones.
i also find that the older i get, the less emotional i get on gameday. i try to understand that progress in the nfl isn't as much week-to-week as it is year-to-year. the giants didn't have the horses last year so it was great to see them at least competitive.
my ultimate takeaway from the 2020 season was: outmanned, but well-coached. a good thing considering we had a new coach in his first season. another reason why the feeling after last year was a bit different, and much better than, the end of the season the few years prior.
The problem for the Giants is that last year he had to be THE guy, and under no circumstances on a good team should he be THE guy. When relied on as the focal point, he will disappointed.
If the Giants offensive weapons can create some space for Engram and he only needs to be a viable threat and make an occasional big play I think he can be very good.
Like you said there are no guys on the Giants who could create space, and there are a handful of guys who can create space in the league like Engram can as a TE hybrid player.
I really think with Golloday a healthy Barkley and the threat of Toney this year Engram will be worlds better. He works hard, he stays out of the news, and he makes some big plays, he catches a lot of flack because he is inconsistent but I think he will turn it around this year being cast in a different role. And hes the kind of guy Giants fans should root for
Great write-up. I think there's hope for the coming season.
-The addition of Adoree Jackson is understated by many people in the media. You are absolutely right; teams just kept targeting CB2 all game long.
My biggest take-aways to reinforce some of your points, were:
1. The lack of talent, mostly at the skill positions on offense. The RB stats with a bunch of JAGS, was 1200 yards and 10 TD's, not including Jones rushing stats. I think your projection on what Saquon can do behind the line is spot on. The WR's were AWFUL last year. The lack of separation was startling, particularly when Shep wasn't playing. I am really excited about the additions at the skill positions, and what that can mean for Barkley and Engram.
2. Jones has all the tools to be a top half quarterback if he can improve his pocket awareness and recognize pressure earlier. Your comparison to Eli is a good one, but Eli for the first 3/4 of his career was consistently one of the least sacked QB's in the league - #1 because he had a really good o-line beginning in 2005 & #2 he was never afraid to throw the ball away. The improved line play should help Jones, but he's got to get rid of the ball quicker and be able to recognize pressure. I know that's a big question, but I think that's genuinely all it will take to make him a top tier QB.
3. The defense was extremely well coached and they tackled really well. With the added talent and if they can stay healthy, I believe they enter the season as a top 10 defense with the potential to be top 5. They generated a lot of coverage sacks (particularly against Seattle), and I think that will also improve this year with some healthy edge players and new additions.
4. I expect to see better performance from special teams, particularly in the return and coverage games. I think both Riley and Gano played well, but Dion Lewis was a liability in the return game. I think a lot of the off-season additions address special teams, particularly in the return game.
I, for one, am very excited for this season. Particularly after the draft - which I think they hit out of the park.
I was a big proponent of adding either of the 2 bama WRs and having not really had a chance at either, a week later I am very glad they added Toney because I think he may not be that far off either one and is kind of a hybrid of their 2 styles in the first place. I'm also glad they added Rudolph. Their complement of weapons is now legitimately strong and if Barkley comes back as his old self that's the cherry on top.
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and maybe I think it's nice because it reflects my own feelings and evaluation. I agree with everything you said. I have a lot of optimism going into this fall.
Agree with this. This write up is much closer to my own memory of the season.
Same for me.
I haven't been this optimistic about the Giants in a LONG time.
Good one. Except now you made a negative comment! You blew it! Lol.
I think he meant Slayton is no #1 and will therefore benefit from having Golladay across from him.
I think he was refering to Slayton.
Great write up BTW and agree this team played hard last year and this offseason brought in a good amount of talent and depth. If Barkley comes back healthy I see great things in store for 2021!
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I'm curious why you aren't convinced Golladay can be a true #1 WR.
I think he was refering to Slayton.
Great write up BTW and agree this team played hard last year and this offseason brought in a good amount of talent and depth. If Barkley comes back healthy I see great things in store for 2021!
Great post and glad you're over covid
If Golladay's not a #1, what the heck is the definition of a #1?
It wasn’t just that we lacked home run hitters. It was that we had a team of players that could only bunt and hit bloop singles.
I also felt the OL settled down. Those first 4 games WERE like preseason. We played like it. They had no cohesion, we had a rookie at LT and a new C. They had a lot to work out. Colombo might have also been an issue. Unclear if he got canned for bad teaching or being against the rotation of OL players (which was certainly not a norm). When we changed the blocking to more duo (power) we did a lot better.
On EE, that’s my frustration with him. He’s not bad per se. He has tools. He can make great plays. He can get open. He’s just felt like a coach killer because he also Fs up at the worst times.
I’m excited to see what may come after a regular off season.