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Snacks : 5/7/2021 1:25 pm
It's opening day. You are facing NYG and everyone is healthy.

How do you approach defending our offense?

You have OUR defense to work with.

If it's me, Bradberry on KG all day and focus on Barkley still until Jones shows he can make me pay for it.

What would you do? How do you think teams will approach stopping us this year?

(You can pick another D if you want)

I'm attacking  
JB_in_DC : 5/7/2021 1:36 pm : link
the interior of the OL with stunts and blitzes.
For me,  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 1:36 pm : link
You have Odenigbo, Lawrence, Williams, and Smith rushing the passer, Cam Brown on Engram or Rudolph (whoever’s on the seam routes) since Sy says he’d be a good SAM, Ojulari can either blitz or cover Barkley (he apparently can do both), Bradberry on Golladay, McKinney as the free safety downfield as zone coverage with Peppers in the box should Jones decide to run, Jackson on Slayton, and Robinson on whoever’s lining up at slot receiver.
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HMunster : 5/7/2021 1:37 pm : link
......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 5/7/2021 1:38 pm : link
Testing the entirety of the online

Test each tackle, test the interior, see what pressure you can generate with and without blizting.

And always, swat at the ball before tackling DJ - see if he's made improvements there
I'm taking the ball  
santacruzom : 5/7/2021 1:44 pm : link
right out of Daniel Jones' hands.
RE: I'm attacking  
Snacks : 5/7/2021 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15257645 JB_in_DC said:
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the interior of the OL with stunts and blitzes.


Yes. I like it. Still viewed as a weak spot for us unfortunately. Coaches and GM think otherwise. Time will tell.
RE: For me,  
Snacks : 5/7/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15257646 Angel Eyes said:
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You have Odenigbo, Lawrence, Williams, and Smith rushing the passer, Cam Brown on Engram or Rudolph (whoever’s on the seam routes) since Sy says he’d be a good SAM, Ojulari can either blitz or cover Barkley (he apparently can do both), Bradberry on Golladay, McKinney as the free safety downfield as zone coverage with Peppers in the box should Jones decide to run, Jackson on Slayton, and Robinson on whoever’s lining up at slot receiver.


I like the secondary match up, but think Barkley will still be a matchup problem for LB's. Assuming this is man.
Stop the run and...  
GMen72 : 5/7/2021 2:23 pm : link
don't even cover Engram (no need). After last year...every team is going to make DJ beat them.
RE: ......  
Snacks : 5/7/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15257651 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Testing the entirety of the online

Test each tackle, test the interior, see what pressure you can generate with and without blizting.

And always, swat at the ball before tackling DJ - see if he's made improvements there


The more I think about it, because I said opening day, testing the o-line seems like the way to go at first. Particularly Hernandez or Lemieux laterally.
Buccaneers Defense:  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 2:46 pm : link
On the line you got Suh and Gholston at the tackles, any combo of JPP, Barrett or Joe Tryon on the edge with JPP having the option of being on the line or Tryon dropping into pass coverage as the SAM linebacker. Devin White blitzes up the middle, Lavonte David covers the flat in zone. Carlton Davis on Golladay, Murphy-Bunting on Slayton, Winfield on Barkley, Whitehead on the slot in the free safety position
Blitz the middle  
Biteymax22 : 5/7/2021 2:46 pm : link
And disguise a lot of zones and try and get some turnovers by fooling Jones. Don't let anyone beat you deep and make them sustain drives.
Simple  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/7/2021 2:52 pm : link
Prioritize stopping the run. Take away the deep ball, cover the check downs and force him to make the intermediate throws.
Run blitz  
Thegratefulhead : 5/7/2021 2:55 pm : link
Until the NYG learn how to beat it. I blitz whenever Barkley is in the Backfield on a passing down as well.
in more simple terms  
Thegratefulhead : 5/7/2021 2:56 pm : link
I put the game on Jones and expect turnovers.
It's a good question.  
mittenedman : 5/7/2021 3:28 pm : link
The Giants have a real NFL offense now, with threats at every position. It's almost reminiscent of the 2011 offense.

That team had 3 good WRs (Nicks/Cruz/Manningham) a 2-way TE (Ballard) and good RBs (Jacobs/Bradshaw). The OLine was just OK. They used a balanced approach, and Eli stirred the drink with incredible QB play.

The Giants now have 3 goods WRs (Golladay/Toney/Shepard), 2-way TE (Rudolph) and RB (Barkley). The OLine is just OK - but the potential to play very well in any given game. Balanced O. It's up to Jones how good we'll be - but he's got the pieces around him to win a Super Bowl.

The entire NFL  
Thegratefulhead : 5/7/2021 3:30 pm : link
Is going to make Daniel Jones prove it. That is what is going to happen. I think he will answer. I think it. He could just as easily fold like cold pizza. Time to find out.
Don't show the same coverages very often in a series if possible  
arniefez : 5/7/2021 4:03 pm : link
play press on the corners and all downhill in the front 7, fake blitzes and back out. Blitz without tipping it. Don't let 26, if he plays, to get to the edge, shoot gaps on running plays. No read and react go after 8 and 26.
Dolphins Defense:  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 4:03 pm : link
On the line, you have rushers: Christian Wilkins and Zac Sieler inside and Emmanuel Ogbah and Jaelen Phillips at the ends. Jerome Baker as the inside blitzer. Benardrick McKinney takes the MIKE spot, not sure who covers the tight end, maybe Andrew Van Ginkel.

In the defensive backfield, Xavien Howard sticks to Golladay like glue, Byron Jones to Slayton. Jason McCourty takes the slot, Eric Rowe and Brandon Jones are the safeties.
RE: Buccaneers Defense:  
Snacks : 5/7/2021 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15257742 Angel Eyes said:
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On the line you got Suh and Gholston at the tackles, any combo of JPP, Barrett or Joe Tryon on the edge with JPP having the option of being on the line or Tryon dropping into pass coverage as the SAM linebacker. Devin White blitzes up the middle, Lavonte David covers the flat in zone. Carlton Davis on Golladay, Murphy-Bunting on Slayton, Winfield on Barkley, Whitehead on the slot in the free safety position


Good choice on D, they showed they can handle explosive offenses in the SB when the O-line is not up to par.
RE: The entire NFL  
Snacks : 5/7/2021 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15257779 Thegratefulhead said:
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Is going to make Daniel Jones prove it. That is what is going to happen. I think he will answer. I think it. He could just as easily fold like cold pizza. Time to find out.


Agree with all. I'm a fan of Jones. The time is fast approaching where we know if we have the right guy. Respect is earned right? What I would hate to see happen is have our OL and/or injuries ruin the season leaving us with more questions than answers. Fingers crossed.
Chiefs Defense:  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 5:04 pm : link
Left-to-right at the defensive line on run downs: Taco Charlton, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, and Frank Clark. On passing downs, Charlton shifts inside to DT, Nnadi goes to the bench, rookie Joshua Kaindoh comes off the bench at left end as a designated rusher.

Linebacker: Anthony Hitchens as the SAM, Willie Gay or rookie Nick Bolton as the WILL or MIKE depending on what's needed

Defensive backs: Charvarius Ward, Bashaud Breeland at outside corner and L'Jarius Sneed as the nickel; Ward on Slayton, Breeland on Golladay, Sneed on whoever's the slot receiver. Dirty Dan Sorensen at Free Safety, Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathiew as the strong safety; might cover Barkley.
RE: Chiefs Defense:  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15257881 Angel Eyes said:
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Left-to-right at the defensive line on run downs: Taco Charlton, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, and Frank Clark. On passing downs, Charlton shifts inside to DT, Nnadi goes to the bench, rookie Joshua Kaindoh comes off the bench at left end as a designated rusher.

Linebacker: Anthony Hitchens as the SAM, Willie Gay or rookie Nick Bolton as the WILL or MIKE depending on what's needed

Defensive backs: Charvarius Ward, Bashaud Breeland at outside corner and L'Jarius Sneed as the nickel; Ward on Slayton, Breeland on Golladay, Sneed on whoever's the slot receiver. Dirty Dan Sorensen at Free Safety, Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathiew as the strong safety; might cover Barkley.

Alternatively, Jarran Reed comes in for Nnadi on passing downs.
If SB is healthy...  
bw in dc : 5/7/2021 5:32 pm : link
I'm assuming NYG is going to try to establish the run. So he's the first priority.

Plus, I'm rolling coverage over to KG to force DJ to go elsewhere.

But ultimately I'm begging DJ to beat me and almost exclusively from the pocket. And mostly outside the hashes.
They will blitz and rush the passer  
Simms11 : 5/7/2021 6:06 pm : link
a ton, until we can show that we can handle it or make teams pay.
RE: They will blitz and rush the passer  
Angel Eyes : 5/7/2021 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15257930 Simms11 said:
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a ton, until we can show that we can handle it or make teams pay.

Yeah, I've been focusing on what other teams would be putting against us on pass defense. On that front I give more thought trying to figure out front four/rushbackers than defensive backs.
Stunts, blitzes.  
CT Charlie : 5/8/2021 9:38 am : link
Attack our RT. Left side is DJ's blind side, but right side is where he holds the ball.
Press Golladay and roll/hedge a Safety to his side  
Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 9:55 am : link
Have Front 7 attack or stick very close to the LOS with all eyes on Saquon Barkely

Force Daniel Jones to beat you from pocket on third and long in first half.

Get lead.

With lead, start looking for more quick throws from Daniel Jones on first down to keep 3rd down manageable.

Ease up on run defense and start mixing up coverage looks.

Have D-Line start putting hands up and everybody play a little tighter on coverage and wait for the mistake.

Send occasional slot or corner blitz to frustrate Jones.

After win, shake hands and have a cold beer...
Rams on passing downs:  
Angel Eyes : 5/8/2021 10:31 am : link
Line up Aaron Donald against Shane Lemieux. Lemieux isn't great at pass protection by any means, so put your best inside pass rusher against a guy who has that as a weakness. Floyd against Matt Peart/Nate Solder. Solder wasn't good in 2019, another possible weak link on the outside. Rotate in Earnest Brown IV as the edge opposite Floyd and Bobby Brown III as the nose to occupy two blockers, no use getting him hurt celebrating a sack. Troy Reeder as the middle blitzer. For man responsibilities in the backfield, put your best corner on the best receiver; Ramsay on Golladay, Troy Hill on Slayton. Darious Williams on the slot.
Teams are going to do what they have done  
PatersonPlank : 5/8/2021 11:00 am : link
Run blitz, stuffing the lanes to stop Barkley and get to the QB as quickly as possible. Have the DB's cover tight short. This 1) takes Barkley out of the game as much as possible, 2) makes the WR's/QB beat the cover press (which so far they have not been able to do).

Its up to the OL/pass blocking to hold up a little on the blitzes, the WR's to get separation, and the QB to hit them and also buy a little time. All 3 of these things have not happened for a few years now. Once we show we can hurt them playing this D, they will back off which will open the game up for Barkley
RE: Buccaneers Defense:  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2021 11:17 am : link
In comment 15257742 Angel Eyes said:
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On the line you got Suh and Gholston at the tackles, any combo of JPP, Barrett or Joe Tryon on the edge with JPP having the option of being on the line or Tryon dropping into pass coverage as the SAM linebacker. Devin White blitzes up the middle, Lavonte David covers the flat in zone. Carlton Davis on Golladay, Murphy-Bunting on Slayton, Winfield on Barkley, Whitehead on the slot in the free safety position

Cool.

Did you read the OP?
RE: Dolphins Defense:  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2021 11:17 am : link
In comment 15257816 Angel Eyes said:
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On the line, you have rushers: Christian Wilkins and Zac Sieler inside and Emmanuel Ogbah and Jaelen Phillips at the ends. Jerome Baker as the inside blitzer. Benardrick McKinney takes the MIKE spot, not sure who covers the tight end, maybe Andrew Van Ginkel.

In the defensive backfield, Xavien Howard sticks to Golladay like glue, Byron Jones to Slayton. Jason McCourty takes the slot, Eric Rowe and Brandon Jones are the safeties.

Still haven't read the OP?
RE: Chiefs Defense:  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15257881 Angel Eyes said:
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Left-to-right at the defensive line on run downs: Taco Charlton, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, and Frank Clark. On passing downs, Charlton shifts inside to DT, Nnadi goes to the bench, rookie Joshua Kaindoh comes off the bench at left end as a designated rusher.

Linebacker: Anthony Hitchens as the SAM, Willie Gay or rookie Nick Bolton as the WILL or MIKE depending on what's needed

Defensive backs: Charvarius Ward, Bashaud Breeland at outside corner and L'Jarius Sneed as the nickel; Ward on Slayton, Breeland on Golladay, Sneed on whoever's the slot receiver. Dirty Dan Sorensen at Free Safety, Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathiew as the strong safety; might cover Barkley.

Still going even though you clearly haven't read the OP?
RE: Rams on passing downs:  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15258384 Angel Eyes said:
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Line up Aaron Donald against Shane Lemieux. Lemieux isn't great at pass protection by any means, so put your best inside pass rusher against a guy who has that as a weakness. Floyd against Matt Peart/Nate Solder. Solder wasn't good in 2019, another possible weak link on the outside. Rotate in Earnest Brown IV as the edge opposite Floyd and Bobby Brown III as the nose to occupy two blockers, no use getting him hurt celebrating a sack. Troy Reeder as the middle blitzer. For man responsibilities in the backfield, put your best corner on the best receiver; Ramsay on Golladay, Troy Hill on Slayton. Darious Williams on the slot.

Going for a 4th try without reading the OP. Bravo!
He said you could do this for opposing defenses and  
Angel Eyes : 5/8/2021 11:23 am : link
the Giants would be facing each of these teams in 2021.

So Yes, I did read the OP.
Everyone is saying Blitz  
JohnF : 5/8/2021 11:23 am : link
But...we now have a weapon to defeat the Blitz with Toney. Wanna blitz? Quick pass to Toney in the area left by the Blitzer, and watch KT pick up a long gain or TD.

Burn teams enough, and they will stop blitzing. Toney is going to be a huge factor in the offense because of his ability to get open quick, run bubble screens/jet sweeps, and YAC.

Having someone who can turn a five yard pass into a major gain affects the way defenses play you.
RE: RE: Rams on passing downs:  
Angel Eyes : 5/8/2021 11:28 am : link
In comment 15258417 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15258384 Angel Eyes said:


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Line up Aaron Donald against Shane Lemieux. Lemieux isn't great at pass protection by any means, so put your best inside pass rusher against a guy who has that as a weakness. Floyd against Matt Peart/Nate Solder. Solder wasn't good in 2019, another possible weak link on the outside. Rotate in Earnest Brown IV as the edge opposite Floyd and Bobby Brown III as the nose to occupy two blockers, no use getting him hurt celebrating a sack. Troy Reeder as the middle blitzer. For man responsibilities in the backfield, put your best corner on the best receiver; Ramsay on Golladay, Troy Hill on Slayton. Darious Williams on the slot.


Going for a 4th try without reading the OP. Bravo!

If you're not going to do more than criticize me for actually following the OP's instructions (read the bottom of the OP) and personally attack me whenever I talk about defense, Get. Lost.
RE: He said you could do this for opposing defenses and  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2021 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15258419 Angel Eyes said:
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the Giants would be facing each of these teams in 2021.

So Yes, I did read the OP.

No, he said you have OUR defense to work with.

Based on this and your 3rd (or was it 4th?) mock draft thread where you tried to suggest trading #11 for #50 STRAIGHT-UP, I'm going to assume that you're either not all the way present, or that you're here specifically to troll the board.

Feel free to admit to either.
RE: RE: He said you could do this for opposing defenses and  
Angel Eyes : 5/8/2021 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15258599 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15258419 Angel Eyes said:


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the Giants would be facing each of these teams in 2021.

So Yes, I did read the OP.


No, he said you have OUR defense to work with.

Based on this and your 3rd (or was it 4th?) mock draft thread where you tried to suggest trading #11 for #50 STRAIGHT-UP, I'm going to assume that you're either not all the way present, or that you're here specifically to troll the board.

Feel free to admit to either.

Look at the writing in parentheses at the very bottom of the OP, he says that posters can use another defense.
Says it right here:  
Angel Eyes : 5/8/2021 4:44 pm : link
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(You can pick another D if you want)
Pretty much what everyone else said ....  
short lease : 5/8/2021 11:03 pm : link

test the offensive line anyway possible. Blitzes, Stunts, etc ....

Buddy Ryan is dead but, how about hiring Mike Singletary to run the "46" defense hybrid to see what our OL is made of?

Yes, I know they re-wrote the rule book making it harder for defenses but,....

I would just design a very aggressive game plan and make the Giant's OL beat us. If they can hold their blocks for Jones to pass and/or open holes for the RBs (Barkley) to run. Then I get more conservative on D. Something like that.
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