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Stan in LA : 5/8/2021 1:43 pm
Last night was a quiet evening and we were eating at the local steak house and the waiter comes over and says that they have Tomahawk steak as a special that night.

Hummm. Had that several times in the past, great presentation and tasty. Somewhat expensive, but not wallet breaking so we order it.

As advertised, delicious and impressive to look at. I expect the price to be somewhat north of the most expensive steak on the menu (which was $69). Figured give or take $90.

Turns out it was in the Great White North of that.

$150.

Good news is that the waiter waved the $20 corkage fee (we brought our own wine).

Our fault for not asking the price ahead of time, but if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Lesson learned.


Image above for illustrative purposes.
Sadly, I have paid more for  
big_blue : 5/8/2021 1:53 pm : link
This steak, I feel your pain lol. What’s crazy is that Ralph’s sells this cut bone in for 9.99 a lb
Flemings has a great deal for tomahawk tuesdays  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 2:05 pm : link
Two sides, two apps ,dessert and a 32 oz tomahawk
$135
Me, wife and daughter go to Walnut Creek CA and have that once or twice a yr
Just did a Morton’s 16oz bone in rib eye in palm desert for my bday last week
Think it was around mid $60 or so
Both make excellent steaks. Sure the foodies can suggest better, but I do enjoy dinners out to both places
That is highly irresponsible and unethical  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 2:10 pm : link
For the waiter to not disclose the price of a high end special. If the price isnt printed, you should always give the price of the item.

We went out to dinner at The Galley Beach in Nantucket, its a very expensive place. The waitress specialed this Wagyu beef tips that served in portions of 4 oz, but you could order whatever amount you would like. My uncle did know what he was doing and was planning on getting 12 oz as his meal. Before he could order it I asked how much the wagyu special was and she said $20. I then asked $20 per portion? She said no, per ounce. Also we had to order it in prtions of 4. So if my uncle ordered what he planned to, he would have been boned with a $240 item. I straight told her it was highly unprofessional, got up, went to the manager and asked for a new waiter. I could see her furious because we were an 8 top. We got our new waiter and the meal was just south of $1400 and my Dad and uncle tipped $150 each. That would have been a good NIGHT at work for me when I was working restaurants. Hell of a way to learn that lesson.
I love ribeye steak  
mattlawson : 5/8/2021 2:16 pm : link
To me it’s a waste of money unless you can get them cheaper through someone you know and do it yourself.
Quoting $20 without stating per oz  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 2:38 pm : link
Isn’t good
I don’t know if I would ask for a new table, but I sure would explain to the waitress that it’s not ethical to leave out “ per oz” part
Most people can’t afford to drop $240 on a steak. So it’s BS for someone to leave that small detail out. Screw it. I guess if I was dropping that kinda coin probably want a new waitress too
Heck. Ten yrs ago if u told me I would pay more than 50 for a steak I would tell u you were crazy
Of course I said the same thing with houses before I moved to Bay Area CA
I’ve got a tip for waiters who don’t mention the price  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/8/2021 2:42 pm : link
On second thought, I don’t.
RE: Quoting $20 without stating per oz  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15258510 Payasdaddy said:
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Isn’t good
I don’t know if I would ask for a new table, but I sure would explain to the waitress that it’s not ethical to leave out “ per oz” part
Most people can’t afford to drop $240 on a steak. So it’s BS for someone to leave that small detail out. Screw it. I guess if I was dropping that kinda coin probably want a new waitress too
Heck. Ten yrs ago if u told me I would pay more than 50 for a steak I would tell u you were crazy
Of course I said the same thing with houses before I moved to Bay Area CA


Not a new table, a new server. We didnt move. I didnt go after her job, just having been doing the same job she had, I knew what she was doing. She was huffing and puffing around the dining room for the rest of the night.


Im sorry but you dont do that. Its like when you ask for a wine with dinner and for the server to choose the one they like the best and they bring you a $30 glass of Bordeaux to go with a chicken dish. They didnt try and do right by you, they are trying to jack up your bill.
Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
gtt350 : 5/8/2021 2:53 pm : link
you for a business lunch or dinner.
Everything ala carte. $12 for spinach, 12 for potatoes
what a profit,
I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too
RE: I’ve got a tip for waiters who don’t mention the price  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 3:03 pm : link
In comment 15258513 Jim in Fairfax said:
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On second thought, I don’t.


I have, on VERY rare occasions, been asked
by the host of a table to not mention ANY prices of specials or liquor....even if asked by the other guests. The host wanted everybody not to hesitate ordering whatever they wanted. If we had very high end ticket item I would ask the host if it was okay to include that as part of my spiel. If we were running a crazy special like shaved white truffles on a dish for a 125 supplement, or a baller surf n turf with 12 oz lobster tail, 16 oz ribby and truffled mashed for $100, I want him to know before all 8 of his guests get that.I mean, if they are drinking AND they order like that, I dont care how happy he is that his daughter graduated college, that could be $200/person after you just dumped 200k on them getting their womens studies degree. Lol.

Also, if I know the guest well, and they have money, I might withhold saying the price. Especially Italian Dads. They just want everybody to enjoy themselves and they love feeling like a great provider. But for the most part, ALWAYS say the price if its not printed. I dont care if its a $12 salad.
What a ripoff...  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/8/2021 3:04 pm : link
...The same exact thing as a ribeye but you paid $100 for extra bone.
RE: Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15258519 gtt350 said:
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you for a business lunch or dinner.
Everything ala carte. $12 for spinach, 12 for potatoes
what a profit,
I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too


Their margins are very tight on the beef. The rule of thumb is that the restaurant COST of something is about a qarter of the list price. But with higher end stuff, you cant do that. For instance, that $60 prime t bone did NOT cost $15. It was probably more like $25. So they have to make up for that selling sides that are prcier. If someone orders a steak as medium, it comes out medium but they wanted it Med Rare, that steak is a pretty significant loss and nice little snack for the dishwashers.

Same with wine, if you are ordering wine that is $40 at the store, its hard to sell a bottle like that for $160. Tiganello retails for $112. The most I have ever sold that bottle for was $250.

There was a time where I enjoyed steakhouses  
UConn4523 : 5/8/2021 3:20 pm : link
but it’s just too much food. I pretty much only eat tapas style when I go out. Would rather try a bunch of stuff with good drinks, all for less than the OPs single steak.
RE: What a ripoff...  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15258530 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...The same exact thing as a ribeye but you paid $100 for extra bone.



You would be surprised how little that bone weighs. I have been weighng and logging my meals quite a bit over the past year just to control how many calories Im taking in. I weighed the bone of a 24 oz porterhouse after I ate it and was stunned to see it weigh under 2 oz.
RE: There was a time where I enjoyed steakhouses  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15258540 UConn4523 said:
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but it’s just too much food. I pretty much only eat tapas style when I go out. Would rather try a bunch of stuff with good drinks, all for less than the OPs single steak.


The food scene in Philly has very much gone that route. Now most places offer "tasting menus" which locks you in to a price per person (for food), but you basically score because you pick out a few items and most of these places then just send you other dishes. I fucking hated working that format....because it keeps me from upselling. Lol. These people come in for dinner, take up a table will order two small plates and then sit there forever like they just had Easter dinner. I know I know, get a new job, which I did, but that whole concept is lost on these people who go out for a snack and sit there for 2 hours. When I would go to these places, it was with friends and we ordered and ordered and made it like a Baccanalia. So it that respect its cool. But in terms of the dumb ass coupon cutting guests who would try and get more and more shit for free and try and swap things out and modify their meals...fuck that.
RE: Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 3:41 pm : link
In comment 15258519 gtt350 said:
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I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too


Thanks, gtt, I appreciate that. There are a bunch of others here though that I'm sure could do a better job than me :) As an aside, that picture from Stan looked closer to 1 pound than 2. I hope he took the bone home to the dog. I got a couple of gift certificates for Flemings for my anniversary early into Covid, so I guess I've got a steakhouse trip coming up. I was hoping for a veal chop,but I don't see it on the menu. They do have a 35 oz prime tomahawk for $92
RE: RE: Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
nochance : 5/8/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15258556 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15258519 gtt350 said:


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I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too



Thanks, gtt, I appreciate that. There are a bunch of others here though that I'm sure could do a better job than me :) As an aside, that picture from Stan looked closer to 1 pound than 2. I hope he took the bone home to the dog. I got a couple of gift certificates for Flemings for my anniversary early into Covid, so I guess I've got a steakhouse trip coming up. I was hoping for a veal chop,but I don't see it on the menu. They do have a 35 oz prime tomahawk for $92



The reason it looked smaller was that 2 lbs was the precooked weight of the meat
Beef is fuck all expensive here on LI  
trueblueinpw : 5/8/2021 4:11 pm : link
I bought a flank steak the other day that was like $18 / pound. A nice strip or rib eye is always $19 or $20or more. I haven’t seen anything on sale either. Fucking covid.
With the price of anything these days  
Giant John : 5/8/2021 4:12 pm : link
What isn’t a rip-off? Are your salaries keeping up ? Not to mention shortages in so many areas. It’s a tough time.
RE: RE: RE: Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15258569 nochance said:
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In comment 15258556 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 15258519 gtt350 said:


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I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too



Thanks, gtt, I appreciate that. There are a bunch of others here though that I'm sure could do a better job than me :) As an aside, that picture from Stan looked closer to 1 pound than 2. I hope he took the bone home to the dog. I got a couple of gift certificates for Flemings for my anniversary early into Covid, so I guess I've got a steakhouse trip coming up. I was hoping for a veal chop,but I don't see it on the menu. They do have a 35 oz prime tomahawk for $92




The reason it looked smaller was that 2 lbs was the precooked weight of the meat


So youre saying that the cooking process melted off 2 lbs of matter? Lol.

I see what youre saying now....  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 4:26 pm : link
Again, as I pointed out with bone. The post cooked weight in ounces is only very slightly affected by the removal of the bone and cooking it. I would say, all told, it was about 3-4 ounces. So a 28 oz steak.

Lastly that price us still exceptionally high for a 32 oz Tommy. We sold 48 oz tommies for I think 110 at Mulherins in Philly. That was also a prime cut.
Chopper  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 4:47 pm : link
Not judging u for getting a new server
Lets not be so sensitive Just saying what i may or not do
Not telling u what u should do
If u read everything i wrote, i pivoted halfway thru and said screw it, i may do something similar
Dont go all snowflake on me
I
Servers should give the price of any special,  
Mad Mike : 5/8/2021 4:54 pm : link
but especially if it's materially different that the rest of the menu like Stan's example. Yes, you could ask, but you shouldn't have to.
Ribeye is $12.79 at my local BJs  
giantBCP : 5/8/2021 5:10 pm : link
and $12.29 for the large primal cut.

A year ago it usually sold for around $9.
RE: RE: There was a time where I enjoyed steakhouses  
UConn4523 : 5/8/2021 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15258547 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15258540 UConn4523 said:


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but it’s just too much food. I pretty much only eat tapas style when I go out. Would rather try a bunch of stuff with good drinks, all for less than the OPs single steak.



The food scene in Philly has very much gone that route. Now most places offer "tasting menus" which locks you in to a price per person (for food), but you basically score because you pick out a few items and most of these places then just send you other dishes. I fucking hated working that format....because it keeps me from upselling. Lol. These people come in for dinner, take up a table will order two small plates and then sit there forever like they just had Easter dinner. I know I know, get a new job, which I did, but that whole concept is lost on these people who go out for a snack and sit there for 2 hours. When I would go to these places, it was with friends and we ordered and ordered and made it like a Baccanalia. So it that respect its cool. But in terms of the dumb ass coupon cutting guests who would try and get more and more shit for free and try and swap things out and modify their meals...fuck that.


I won’t even eat Italian anymore. Gigantic portions of food are just a turnoff for me now. I’m a quick eater so I’m an ideal guest - in 60-90 minutes we’ll have 5 or 6 small plates and 2 drinks each in all likelihood. But that’s typically at Mexican or Spanish tapas places, or something along those lines which is usually what people order anyway.
RE: Chopper  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 5:15 pm : link
In comment 15258608 Payasdaddy said:
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Not judging u for getting a new server
Lets not be so sensitive Just saying what i may or not do
Not telling u what u should do
If u read everything i wrote, i pivoted halfway thru and said screw it, i may do something similar
Dont go all snowflake on me
I


I didnt! I didnt get worked up at you at all. Just wanted to explain what I meant. Getting a new table involved moving 8 people across a floor to a new table that prob has to be set and looks disruptive. I just wanted to work with a different person.
Understood  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 5:16 pm : link
Sorry for the miscommunication!
Like I said, flemings tomahawk pretty good
Don’t know if deals are all over country or just CA
If I'm payin $100+ bucks for a steak,  
MOOPS : 5/8/2021 5:22 pm : link
it sure as hell better come with a 'happy ending'.
Mmmmm  
muhajir : 5/8/2021 5:23 pm : link
Tomahawkss.... (drooling Homer Simpson gif)
Without the benefit of having worked at a restaurant  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 5:23 pm : link
I would guess that if a waitperson neglects to give a price or is deceptive about pricing, that comes from the top. The second time something like that was mentioned to the boss in a pricey eatery, if it was against company policy, the waiter would be gone.
RE: RE: Chopper  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15258630 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15258608 Payasdaddy said:


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Not judging u for getting a new server
Lets not be so sensitive Just saying what i may or not do
Not telling u what u should do
If u read everything i wrote, i pivoted halfway thru and said screw it, i may do something similar
Dont go all snowflake on me
I



I didnt! I didnt get worked up at you at all. Just wanted to explain what I meant. Getting a new table involved moving 8 people across a floor to a new table that prob has to be set and looks disruptive. I just wanted to work with a different person.


You'd think that could just reassign another waiter, rather than moving your whole table.
RE: Without the benefit of having worked at a restaurant  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15258635 Bill in UT said:
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I would guess that if a waitperson neglects to give a price or is deceptive about pricing, that comes from the top. The second time something like that was mentioned to the boss in a pricey eatery, if it was against company policy, the waiter would be gone.


Never ever ever ever ever ever. That is never the case. Ever. The last thing mgmnt wants to deal with is an irate check payer over a top end item. Not just the scene they cause, but comping shit and enticing them back with gift cards all goes on the books. Managers dont want to get read the riot act by ownership about comps. Comps and voids are like blowfish toxin to mgmt. Those numbers lead to summary firings by owners who dont know what they are doing. Manager has too many of these, they lose their job. Happens constantly. If a manager fired the waiter, its like an execution stay for him. That industry is brutal on the mind as well as the body.

Like Ive said, the only time I wouldnt give prices is if I was asked not to by the guest or supervisor. I would use my judgement with regulars. I think that has only backfired once in my entire time doing the job when all six guests got a lobster tail supplement ($40) and the guy knew the owner. The owner was annoyed that I didnt tell him what they were ordering so he could give them a break, but knowing his history, he hated giving breaks on food. I got scolded a bit, but at the end of the day, the owner needs to say, "hey let me see their order before you put it in." There have also been times when I have gone to ownership to dbl check that he wanted to charge a friend or relative in full, owner scoffs and says "of course" and that I was bothering him, only to have the friend or relative bitch about the bill afterwards. Of course the owwner then wont go near the table. Im truly damned if I do,damned if I dont. Kinda just have to do the necessaries and reciting the price of $150 special is necessary.

*Side note: I dont think I believe that the price of a 32 oz rib eye was $150. Thats $50 per ounce and insane.
RE: RE: RE: Chopper  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15258637 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15258630 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 15258608 Payasdaddy said:


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Not judging u for getting a new server
Lets not be so sensitive Just saying what i may or not do
Not telling u what u should do
If u read everything i wrote, i pivoted halfway thru and said screw it, i may do something similar
Dont go all snowflake on me
I



I didnt! I didnt get worked up at you at all. Just wanted to explain what I meant. Getting a new table involved moving 8 people across a floor to a new table that prob has to be set and looks disruptive. I just wanted to work with a different person.



You'd think that could just reassign another waiter, rather than moving your whole table.



Thats exactly what I asked for and they did. The girl lost an 8 top. When I asked for that and gave my reasoning, the manager barely blinked. He called over a back server, whispered in his ear, bought our first round of drinks and a new (older Server) showed up and flowed into dinner service as if nothing happened. Nobody around us thought anything was up and to take credit, it was the right move. Everybody was happy....except that heifer waitress.
22 0z bone in rib eye  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 5:46 pm : link
67 at Morton's
Don't know the weight of the steak but  
Stan in LA : 5/8/2021 5:47 pm : link
It was about the size of the one in the picture. I do have a copy of the bill sitting in front of me if you want me to, I can post it here.
RE: There was a time where I enjoyed steakhouses  
islander1 : 5/8/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15258540 UConn4523 said:
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but it’s just too much food. I pretty much only eat tapas style when I go out. Would rather try a bunch of stuff with good drinks, all for less than the OPs single steak.


It's funny.

When I was in college, we'd get appetizers because that was all we could afford.

25 years later, we get them for your exact reason above! Trying different things. We'll spend more on alcohol than food, usually.
RE: Don't know the weight of the steak but  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 6:03 pm : link
In comment 15258654 Stan in LA said:
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It was about the size of the one in the picture. I do have a copy of the bill sitting in front of me if you want me to, I can post it here.



Stan I really could not care less about whether you paid what you did. Im just saying you got screwed by not knowing the price. I just took a quick search and a 40 oz tommy at Ruth's Chris (where they happily are at the top of the price list) are charging 150 for a 40 oz chop of Prime beef. It sounds like the local steakhouse may have gotten a deal on tommies and took you for a bit of a ride. They probably only started the night with 7 or 8 max and they got them that day. Next time go back a few days later when those things are laying around. Watch that price dip down to a more reasonable level in no time. Otherwise they have to face making those fucking things for staff meal.
RE: Steakhouses are a huge ripoff unless someone is taking  
Tuckrule : 5/8/2021 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15258519 gtt350 said:
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you for a business lunch or dinner.
Everything ala carte. $12 for spinach, 12 for potatoes
what a profit,
I get beautiful cuts of meat and can cook it as good if not better than any steakhouse, Billi in UT (AZ) too


Does your house come with a wait staff and high end ambiance. Is the rent about 20k per month also?
RE: RE: There was a time where I enjoyed steakhouses  
UConn4523 : 5/8/2021 6:56 pm : link
In comment 15258664 islander1 said:
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In comment 15258540 UConn4523 said:


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but it’s just too much food. I pretty much only eat tapas style when I go out. Would rather try a bunch of stuff with good drinks, all for less than the OPs single steak.



It's funny.

When I was in college, we'd get appetizers because that was all we could afford.

25 years later, we get them for your exact reason above! Trying different things. We'll spend more on alcohol than food, usually.


It’s more fun too. Tapas style usually comes with a more lively energy, which is simply more fun to be a part of. We’ve recently started eating at the bar more too which also increases the fun factor. I’m not one for bartender chitchat but a good bartender knows how far to go in the convo and when too much talking becomes annoying. You also get direct access to better drink recommendations.
Payasdaddy  
mitch300 : 5/8/2021 7:14 pm : link
Flemings is nice. Have you ever been to Cole’s chop house in Napa? Very good.
Coles chop house  
Payasdaddy : 5/8/2021 7:19 pm : link
Never been. Hour from Napa
May have to check it out
Still haven’t been to Peter Lugers in my
Will be in NY next week but family in Hudson valley, not Brooklyn
So me and wife are doing terrapin in Rhine beck ( an old favorite of ours)
Maybe Santa Fe in tivoli (oaxacan tacos are great there)
Mmmm. Getting h7ngry!
RE: RE: Without the benefit of having worked at a restaurant  
Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15258644 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15258635 Bill in UT said:


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I would guess that if a waitperson neglects to give a price or is deceptive about pricing, that comes from the top. The second time something like that was mentioned to the boss in a pricey eatery, if it was against company policy, the waiter would be gone.



Never ever ever ever ever ever. That is never the case. Ever. The last thing mgmnt wants to deal with is an irate check payer over a top end item. Not just the scene they cause, but comping shit and enticing them back with gift cards all goes on the books. Managers dont want to get read the riot act by ownership about comps. Comps and voids are like blowfish toxin to mgmt. Those numbers lead to summary firings by owners who dont know what they are doing. Manager has too many of these, they lose their job. Happens constantly. If a manager fired the waiter, its like an execution stay for him. That industry is brutal on the mind as well as the body.

Like Ive said, the only time I wouldnt give prices is if I was asked not to by the guest or supervisor. I would use my judgement with regulars. I think that has only backfired once in my entire time doing the job when all six guests got a lobster tail supplement ($40) and the guy knew the owner. The owner was annoyed that I didnt tell him what they were ordering so he could give them a break, but knowing his history, he hated giving breaks on food. I got scolded a bit, but at the end of the day, the owner needs to say, "hey let me see their order before you put it in." There have also been times when I have gone to ownership to dbl check that he wanted to charge a friend or relative in full, owner scoffs and says "of course" and that I was bothering him, only to have the friend or relative bitch about the bill afterwards. Of course the owwner then wont go near the table. Im truly damned if I do,damned if I dont. Kinda just have to do the necessaries and reciting the price of $150 special is necessary.

*Side note: I dont think I believe that the price of a 32 oz rib eye was $150. Thats $50 per ounce and insane.


**Side note: start using a calculator for help...
RE: Coles chop house  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 7:38 pm : link
In comment 15258738 Payasdaddy said:
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Never been. Hour from Napa
May have to check it out
Still haven’t been to Peter Lugers in my
Will be in NY next week but family in Hudson valley, not Brooklyn
So me and wife are doing terrapin in Rhine beck ( an old favorite of ours)
Maybe Santa Fe in tivoli (oaxacan tacos are great there)
Mmmm. Getting h7ngry!


Finally driving up to Santa Fe for a few days at the end of Sept. Mostly going to stick to Mex/SW restaurants. Made a reservation yesterday at Sazon, the top rated restaurant in town on TripAdvisor. Happens to be Mexican.
Peter Lugers  
Canton : 5/8/2021 7:39 pm : link
Porterhouse and their homemade steak sauce is worth the price of admission alone. $80
RE: RE: RE: Without the benefit of having worked at a restaurant  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15258762 Jimmy Googs said:
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*Side note: I dont think I believe that the price of a 32 oz rib eye was $150. Thats $50 per ounce and insane.



**Side note: start using a calculator for help...


Lighten up, Googs. It's only off by a zero, which is nothing :)
RE: Peter Lugers  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15258766 Canton said:
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Porterhouse and their homemade steak sauce is worth the price of admission alone. $80


And the abuse from the waiter is free :)
RE: RE: RE: Without the benefit of having worked at a restaurant  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 7:44 pm : link
In comment 15258762 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15258644 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 15258635 Bill in UT said:


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I would guess that if a waitperson neglects to give a price or is deceptive about pricing, that comes from the top. The second time something like that was mentioned to the boss in a pricey eatery, if it was against company policy, the waiter would be gone.



Never ever ever ever ever ever. That is never the case. Ever. The last thing mgmnt wants to deal with is an irate check payer over a top end item. Not just the scene they cause, but comping shit and enticing them back with gift cards all goes on the books. Managers dont want to get read the riot act by ownership about comps. Comps and voids are like blowfish toxin to mgmt. Those numbers lead to summary firings by owners who dont know what they are doing. Manager has too many of these, they lose their job. Happens constantly. If a manager fired the waiter, its like an execution stay for him. That industry is brutal on the mind as well as the body.

Like Ive said, the only time I wouldnt give prices is if I was asked not to by the guest or supervisor. I would use my judgement with regulars. I think that has only backfired once in my entire time doing the job when all six guests got a lobster tail supplement ($40) and the guy knew the owner. The owner was annoyed that I didnt tell him what they were ordering so he could give them a break, but knowing his history, he hated giving breaks on food. I got scolded a bit, but at the end of the day, the owner needs to say, "hey let me see their order before you put it in." There have also been times when I have gone to ownership to dbl check that he wanted to charge a friend or relative in full, owner scoffs and says "of course" and that I was bothering him, only to have the friend or relative bitch about the bill afterwards. Of course the owwner then wont go near the table. Im truly damned if I do,damned if I dont. Kinda just have to do the necessaries and reciting the price of $150 special is necessary.

*Side note: I dont think I believe that the price of a 32 oz rib eye was $150. Thats $50 per ounce and insane.



**Side note: start using a calculator for help...


*Another side note, nobody values your opinion.
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Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 7:50 pm : link
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Lighten up, Googs. It's only off by a zero, which is nothing :)


Zero is the rating I would give as well.

Crabcakes and pasta primavera tonight Bill. Just about to turn on the pot of water...



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Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 7:54 pm : link
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Lighten up, Googs. It's only off by a zero, which is nothing :)



Zero is the rating I would give as well.

Crabcakes and pasta primavera tonight Bill. Just about to turn on the pot of water...

Going simple and basic tonight- sous vide/seared burgers, nothing but S&P, mushrooms and onions with a splash of Woosty, and double fried french fries in the air fryer. But I'm eating 3 hours earlier than you- that's what old people do :)

Screwed up somewhere with my response  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 7:56 pm : link
going into you last response.
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chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 7:58 pm : link
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Lighten up, Googs. It's only off by a zero, which is nothing :)


Yea Ive been drinking....meant 50/10ozs
Holy shit....50 per person getting 10 oz (I read 3 people)  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 7:59 pm : link
Fuck me, I self'd myself
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Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 8:00 pm : link
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Lighten up, Googs. It's only off by a zero, which is nothing :)

You don't even have to be drinking for something like that. No harm, no foul :) Though I was going to correct it until I saw Jimmy's comment, lol.



Yea Ive been drinking....meant 50/10ozs
I deserve everything I catch from that.  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 8:00 pm : link
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Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 8:01 pm : link
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Chopper, quit while you're ahead :) L'chaim
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chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 8:03 pm : link
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Chopper, quit while you're ahead :) L'chaim


Ill just quit....lol. Cheap whiskey Saturdays are when I should be interwebsing
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Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 8:10 pm : link
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Ill just quit....lol. Cheap whiskey Saturdays are when I should be interwebsing


hey, if I went to some of those steakhouses, all I could afford after that would be cheap whiskey :)
Fuckin Chop  
Bricktop : 5/8/2021 8:13 pm : link
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chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 8:29 pm : link
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Bill in UT : 5/8/2021 8:54 pm : link
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Going simple and basic tonight- sous vide/seared burgers, nothing but S&P, mushrooms and onions with a splash of Woosty, and double fried french fries in the air fryer. But I'm eating 3 hours earlier than you- that's what old people do :)

So my wife said that if she thought of my fries a potato chips, they were really good. But all the complaints I hear about fries is that they aren't crisp enough, so I'll live with that. Bottom line, none are left over



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Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 9:14 pm : link
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Ill just quit....lol. Cheap whiskey Saturdays are when I should be interwebsing


It’s not the whiskey...
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chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 9:26 pm : link
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It’s not the whiskey...


Literally called a fraud by at least 65% of the board, and still shows himself. Thats nerve for you. Despite the fact that nobody has ever laid eyes on your fat ass.
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Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 9:29 pm : link
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Going simple and basic tonight- sous vide/seared burgers, nothing but S&P, mushrooms and onions with a splash of Woosty, and double fried french fries in the air fryer. But I'm eating 3 hours earlier than you- that's what old people do :)

So my wife said that if she thought of my fries a potato chips, they were really good. But all the complaints I hear about fries is that they aren't crisp enough, so I'll live with that. Bottom line, none are left over







We eat late, especially on weekends when weather gets nicer. Old is state of mind!

Crab cakes came out good. Pan seared and finished under broiler. Hardly had any of pasta as I made the patties pretty big. Bottle of Pinot from Willamette Valley. Solid...

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Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2021 9:33 pm : link
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It’s not the whiskey...



Literally called a fraud by at least 65% of the board, and still shows himself. Thats nerve for you. Despite the fact that nobody has ever laid eyes on your fat ass.


You are so weird Bubba. Clueless with facts and searching for some mojo you never really had...
RE: RE: Fuckin Chop  
Bricktop : 5/8/2021 9:43 pm : link
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You're far from stupid. But we all have our moments, no? Having a particularly sad mother's day eve here in beautiful upstate NY. Hope you're enjoying your Saturday night, my friend.
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chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 10:25 pm : link
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You're far from stupid. But we all have our moments, no? Having a particularly sad mother's day eve here in beautiful upstate NY. Hope you're enjoying your Saturday night, my friend.


My dude, I had no idea this is a rough holiday for you. If thats the case, I am sorry. I dont know what thats like yet, but I have been dreading it for years. Hope you get through it ok. You are a bit of light on this board. Take that with you. Love ya man.
This is the next guy who got the  
eric2425ny : 5/8/2021 10:30 pm : link
Tomahawk steak tab after Stan


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i hate the  
pjcas18 : 5/8/2021 10:30 pm : link
"appetizer dinner" or tapas. - I mean I'll eat tapas and appetizers, but if I do, I'm like Doug Heffernan from King of Queens - wanting to stop for fast food on the way home because i'm still hungry.

When I go to a work "dinner" and I hear the organizer say "we're just going to get a bunch of apps" - fuck that, I find a way to see each person there for about a second - maybe guzzle a couple high end bourbons or a couple titos and it's Irish good bye for me

Tapas food is good and last time I went the restaurant had a set up where each person picked two apps and one heavier dish (i won't call it a main course - maybe there is a tapas term for it) - all to be shared.

but a) I'm not a food sharer - even with my wife - keep your fingers away from my plate and b) I just don't get full -

same thing is true about sushi (for me).

First time I tried sushi was in Australia and we sat at kind of like a bar and this conveyor belt went around the bar with different sushi options. when you saw one you wanted you grabbed the plate off the conveyor belt and ate the sushi. each color plate was a different dollar amount. I was with a colleague from work (a few of us actually) and she was explaining what each thing was. I tried almost everything except oonagi (sp?) - and maybe I eventually ate that and I kept eating the ones I liked and my plates stacked up (and then were cleared and I kept getting more), and when you're done some guy comes over looks at all your empty plates and your paperwork for how many plates you had and gives you a bill. I owed like $175 (they were like $5, $8, and $10 sushi items. I asked is that really how much sushi costs? and my colleague said "I've never seen anyone eat that much" lol

It's not everything that has that effect on me - I eat a 12 oz steak and a salad I'm full. A bowl/plate of pasta and a salad I'm full. a sandwich and an apple I'm full, but for some reason appetizers/sushi/tapas make we want to eat more.
Tonite  
Chris in San Diego : 5/9/2021 12:13 am : link
Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!
RE: Tonite  
eric2425ny : 5/9/2021 12:19 am : link
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Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!


Keep in mind these restaurants have basically been shut down for a long time now. Not saying it’s right but they’re trying to recoup lost earnings.
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Bill in UT : 5/9/2021 12:28 am : link
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Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!



Keep in mind these restaurants have basically been shut down for a long time now. Not saying it’s right but they’re trying to recoup lost earnings.


Maybe, but it predates Covid. I've often had to ask for the price of specials, going way back.
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chopperhatch : 5/9/2021 12:51 am : link
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Tomahawk steak tab after Stan
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YOU LIED TO ME!

SHUT YOUR YAPPER!

One of my my all time favorites...you son of a bitch.
RE: RE: Tonite  
chopperhatch : 5/9/2021 1:00 am : link
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Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!



Keep in mind these restaurants have basically been shut down for a long time now. Not saying it’s right but they’re trying to recoup lost earnings.


That shouldnt matter because they shouldnt be serving bug boy steaks if theyre struggling with COVID!!!

Have a filet and then have two of a strip, rib eye or porterhouse on the menu to go along with a pork chop set up and then a chicken dish and two fish. Dont sing the bluea about COVID because nobody is buying gargantuan bone in, fatty steaks.


Im all about succumbing to excess but come the fuck on! Get a nice piece of "anything else."

pj, Im with ya bud. I get hissy when people get all grousey about ordering a meal on the company dime. Lets not come off like a bunch of dime store skanks. Lets have a good time like professionals. If we have to hang out together, lets have a great meal and make some deals. Lol. Im probably TOO ready for this life.
RE: Tonite  
Stan in LA : 5/9/2021 1:10 pm : link
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Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!


So you're saying I got a deal!

Who knew?
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Bricktop : 5/9/2021 1:43 pm : link
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You're far from stupid. But we all have our moments, no? Having a particularly sad mother's day eve here in beautiful upstate NY. Hope you're enjoying your Saturday night, my friend.



My dude, I had no idea this is a rough holiday for you. If thats the case, I am sorry. I dont know what thats like yet, but I have been dreading it for years. Hope you get through it ok. You are a bit of light on this board. Take that with you. Love ya man.


Yeah today is pretty rough. I've had some tough moments today.
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chopperhatch : 5/9/2021 1:57 pm : link
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You're far from stupid. But we all have our moments, no? Having a particularly sad mother's day eve here in beautiful upstate NY. Hope you're enjoying your Saturday night, my friend.



My dude, I had no idea this is a rough holiday for you. If thats the case, I am sorry. I dont know what thats like yet, but I have been dreading it for years. Hope you get through it ok. You are a bit of light on this board. Take that with you. Love ya man.



Yeah today is pretty rough. I've had some tough moments today.


Well, there's not much I can offer as far as solace. When my parents go I dont know what I am going to do. Really I dont. I will probably go on a bender which would be the last thing they would want. I lost an immediate family member when I was quite young and blocked it out. Without asking Im going to guess you too dealt with sudden loss.

The only thing I can offer is that I gor one, and assuredly others love having your contribution to our lives (no matter how distant) and that because of that, you willalways have a friend when you need one. Maybe not your Mom, but if she raised someone who affects people's lives as positively as you do, she must be a stunning spirit who will always be with you whether it's immediately apparent or not.

So much love to you B. Muah.
Thanks buddy. You're a prince  
Bricktop : 5/9/2021 2:01 pm : link
Right back at ya.
Ah shuttup and get to  
chopperhatch : 5/9/2021 2:05 pm : link
A game this year so we clink a drink.
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Bricktop : 5/9/2021 2:42 pm : link
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A game this year so we clink a drink.


I can probably make that happen, ya fuckstain.
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chopperhatch : 5/9/2021 3:00 pm : link
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I can probably make that happen, ya fuckstain.


If you dont I come to Albania and go door knocking
Good thing it was on special ...  
short lease : 5/11/2021 12:10 am : link

otherwise it could have really cost you.
RE: I see what youre saying now....  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/11/2021 7:40 am : link
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Again, as I pointed out with bone. The post cooked weight in ounces is only very slightly affected by the removal of the bone and cooking it. I would say, all told, it was about 3-4 ounces. So a 28 oz steak.

Lastly that price us still exceptionally high for a 32 oz Tommy. We sold 48 oz tommies for I think 110 at Mulherins in Philly. That was also a prime cut.

Ah, Mulherins. I could gorge myself through a good weekend in Fishtown!
RE: RE: Tonite  
HomerJones45 : 5/11/2021 8:06 am : link
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Ate in San Diego. Most items were 35 to maybe 65 on the menu. Server offers Tomahawk steak special with no price. When she returned I asked her...$185. lol!!



So you're saying I got a deal!

Who knew?
You guys sure got sucked in. This whole thread was started as surreptitious way to brag that Stan could throw away $150 on a steak with a long bone in it. Stan, you sly dog. ;0)
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chopperhatch : 5/11/2021 8:14 am : link
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Again, as I pointed out with bone. The post cooked weight in ounces is only very slightly affected by the removal of the bone and cooking it. I would say, all told, it was about 3-4 ounces. So a 28 oz steak.

Lastly that price us still exceptionally high for a 32 oz Tommy. We sold 48 oz tommies for I think 110 at Mulherins in Philly. That was also a prime cut.


Ah, Mulherins. I could gorge myself through a good weekend in Fishtown!


The food there was fucking top notch. Not an easy place to work by any means and the food took a bit of a dive when the Chef got removed for harassment, but that place was SEXY.
Come to Harlem  
Semipro Lineman : 5/11/2021 10:07 am : link
where you can get a Tomahawk Steak for two with sides for only $125
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/11/2021 7:27 pm : link
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Again, as I pointed out with bone. The post cooked weight in ounces is only very slightly affected by the removal of the bone and cooking it. I would say, all told, it was about 3-4 ounces. So a 28 oz steak.

Lastly that price us still exceptionally high for a 32 oz Tommy. We sold 48 oz tommies for I think 110 at Mulherins in Philly. That was also a prime cut.


Ah, Mulherins. I could gorge myself through a good weekend in Fishtown!



The food there was fucking top notch. Not an easy place to work by any means and the food took a bit of a dive when the Chef got removed for harassment, but that place was SEXY.

Mulherin's is the boarding house of choice for Mrs. Dunk and myself whenever we take a ride down the turnpike to get some of Joe B's pizza.

I could spend a while in Fishtown if it weren't for all the troglodytes spelling a bird species repeatedly.
I just looked at Mulherin's menu  
Bricktop : 5/11/2021 7:46 pm : link
out of curiosity and they have a 2 lb ribeye for $130. That's $65/lb. I don't really know how to interpret that. It's Painted Hills beef - all vegetarian diet, no hormones or by-products. I'm sure it's delicious. But $4.10 an oz? Is it that good?
I get a kick out of guys  
PwndPapi : 5/11/2021 7:47 pm : link
who go to a prominent steakhouse and complain about ala carte sides for $12 a pop.

You try cooking a dry-aged choice tomahawk steak or porterhouse at home with sides of creamed spinach, lobster mac, mashed potatoes, et al and let us know how much that runs you. Then let us know whether you were able to cook to whatever your choice of temp is. Then let us know what your overhead is on rent and staff.
Sometimes the sides are better  
Bricktop : 5/11/2021 7:56 pm : link
than the steak, oddly enough. I always over order sides. Especially on the company dime.
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PwndPapi : 5/11/2021 8:01 pm : link
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than the steak, oddly enough. I always over order sides. Especially on the company dime.


Agree. I always overorder apps/sides and have steak leftover.

I took the Mrs. out to a steakhouse yesterday for a belated Mother's Day. Spent $250 for 2 on apps/porterhouse/drinks/desserts. Have leftovers for today.

No complaints. Steakhouses are an event. Not every day.
If you don't expect to spend at least  
Bricktop : 5/11/2021 8:07 pm : link
$100/person at a good steakhouse, you probably ordered chicken and drank water.
Asking the waiter for a price is a ham and egger move  
Go Terps : 5/11/2021 10:16 pm : link
Changing the waiter because they didn't give you the price unprompted is even worse. Doing that when you're not picking up the check...wow.
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