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NFT: Rangers vs Bruins. Final game this season

bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 2:32 pm
Can they close out with a win?
I'm not sure if I'll watch it  
BestFeature : 5/8/2021 2:39 pm : link
Means nothing, half the team is out, and they looked to have completely checked out.
Turn the page  
JonC : 5/8/2021 2:45 pm : link
I'm over it, and they better have a plan moving forward where Sather isn't involved much. We've already watched twenty years of him.
What is everybody's opinion on the firing  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 2:46 pm : link
Of upper management? A lot of people are talking about Dolan butting in, but you simply cannot deny that many talented, young players are just not developing at the right pace.

Gotta believe Quinn gets another chance given the run the team made despite the adversity they faced....and that pisses me off
Quinn appears to be a direct problem with the players  
JonC : 5/8/2021 2:50 pm : link
and I think Gorton wasn't doing a great job of fitting puzzle pieces together. And, I think Sather wouldn't get out of Dolan's ear.
IMO Quinn is over his head  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 3:01 pm : link
He needs to go. Don’t know if they will fire him. Larry Brooks brought out in his article that the Rangers were 682 out of 685 team-seasons this year. Fourth worse in recorded history. Over the last three years the Rangers were fourth worse, 34th worse, and 50th worse. It was also revealed that Laffy had the lowest TOI for a overall first round pick this century. This falls on Quinn.
Disagree  
Samiam : 5/8/2021 3:27 pm : link
Not sure how I feel about Quinn. But, I don’t remember seeing a team other than one totally committed to rebuilding or an expansion team, having this many very young players playing prominent roles. Laggy has not put up,the numbers some expected him too but for major parts of the season, he was playing with kids his own age. Except for a handful of experienced players, several of whom had their own bullshit this year, this has to be one of the youngest teams that’s ever played. But, there appears to be a ton of talent at all levels plus more in the minors. If management doesn’t screw this up as Dolan appears likely to,do, this club is going to be very good in the not to distant future.
RE: Disagree  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15258544 Samiam said:
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Not sure how I feel about Quinn. But, I don’t remember seeing a team other than one totally committed to rebuilding or an expansion team, having this many very young players playing prominent roles. Laggy has not put up,the numbers some expected him too but for major parts of the season, he was playing with kids his own age. Except for a handful of experienced players, several of whom had their own bullshit this year, this has to be one of the youngest teams that’s ever played. But, there appears to be a ton of talent at all levels plus more in the minors. If management doesn’t screw this up as Dolan appears likely to,do, this club is going to be very good in the not to distant future.


I think Gauthier is a bit of a head scratcher given who else is getting ice time, but I tend to agree with you. It looked like there was quite a bit of ice time for the youngins. Laf hasnt exactly jumped off the screen either. Would love to have seen more of Gauthier playing with Kravtsov. Those two could compliment each other quite well.

I dont really know what to think. I was very happy when we hired JD and also surprised at how slowly things seem to be moving for the rooks and young guys. On a positive note, Kaako, Kravtsov, Fox and Miller appear to be the goods going forward.
RE: Disagree  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 3:39 pm : link
In comment 15258544 Samiam said:
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Not sure how I feel about Quinn. But, I don’t remember seeing a team other than one totally committed to rebuilding or an expansion team, having this many very young players playing prominent roles. Laggy has not put up,the numbers some expected him too but for major parts of the season, he was playing with kids his own age. Except for a handful of experienced players, several of whom had their own bullshit this year, this has to be one of the youngest teams that’s ever played. But, there appears to be a ton of talent at all levels plus more in the minors. If management doesn’t screw this up as Dolan appears likely to,do, this club is going to be very good in the not to distant future.


I’m not saying they won’t be very good next year. I believe they need more grit and a better coach
I think Laff would’ve been A LOT more productive if he wasn’t stuck  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 3:51 pm : link
with fourth liners and guys who couldn’t finish most of the season. Heck, Buch couldn’t handle a great pass he made in this game.
Problem With Laffy  
Samiam : 5/8/2021 4:00 pm : link
And a few of the other kids is that they didn’t play defense especially early in the year and they still sometimes don’t do enough back checking. It takes kids a few years to get accustomed to the big leagues and more so in the playoff type hockey they have been playing the past few weeks. I agree the club needs more toughness but I would hate giving up on some of the kids that look like they have really bright futures.
Lafrenière if he stays healthy is going to be an  
arniefez : 5/8/2021 4:09 pm : link
elite player. You can see it already. He just needs consistent ice time with NHL level top 6 linemates.

It will be really disappointing if Quinn is back next year. He's in way over his head.
......  
Route 9 : 5/8/2021 4:19 pm : link
Season ended awhile ago for the Rangers. 2014 was their best shot but they blew it.
Miller scores.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 4:20 pm : link
Even with his struggles since Trouba got hurt, this season can’t be viewed as anything other than a success for him.
I didn’t understand the intermission  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 4:31 pm : link
comments about the Rangers play in the first period. They said the Rangers were playing like a team looking to go home. Expected more. What did they expect? Numerous injuries, lots of rookies. Score was 0-0. ??? I think the effort is there. The new GM is in the building. Don’t you think they know that? Oh, by the way. Their winning now.
If you needed a reason to bounce Quinn,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 4:55 pm : link
make a video of the 19,000 goals the Rangers allowed in the final couple of minutes of periods this season.
Beautiful finish by Laffy.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 5:24 pm : link
3-2 Rangers.
4-2 now  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 5:27 pm : link
Now finish
Not was knocked down with  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 5:36 pm : link
a high stick. Should be no goal. Quinn didn’t challenge
Zibby scores his second. 5-3 Rangers.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 5:40 pm : link
Even they can’t blow this lead.
They tried their darndest to blow a two goal lead  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/8/2021 5:45 pm : link
with less than two minutes to play. They send Quinn out on a high note.


The other three goals were scored by a 19 year-old and two 21 year-olds. 20 year-old Zac Jones had an assist.
RE: Zibby scores his second. 5-3 Rangers.  
bluesince56 : 5/8/2021 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15258646 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Even they can’t blow this lead.


Almost!
Nice to see us end on a high note  
Anakim : 5/8/2021 5:48 pm : link
But just a little too late. Quinn should go. I expect Strome and Buchnevich to get traded, along with a couple of our young D prospects.
is this guy a reliable  
arniefez : 5/8/2021 5:48 pm : link
source? Torts II on tap?
Rangers to make another run at Jack Eichel as rumors about a John Tortorella return grows - ( New Window )
RE: is this guy a reliable  
Anakim : 5/8/2021 5:49 pm : link
In comment 15258657 arniefez said:
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source? Torts II on tap? Rangers to make another run at Jack Eichel as rumors about a John Tortorella return grows - ( New Window )


I'd be absolutely stunned if they re-hire Torts. I mean the guy was fired after three consecutive playoff appearances. Dolan may have loved him, but I don't think Sather did.
Despite the colossal  
Stufftherun : 5/8/2021 5:51 pm : link
goat fuck that this last week was the season ends with a feel good moment. A lot rests on Drury's shoulders this off-season but it's nice to see LAF, Kravty, KK, Miller and Fox taking big steps forward.
RE: RE: is this guy a reliable  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2021 6:05 pm : link
In comment 15258659 Anakim said:
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source? Torts II on tap? Rangers to make another run at Jack Eichel as rumors about a John Tortorella return grows - ( New Window )



I'd be absolutely stunned if they re-hire Torts. I mean the guy was fired after three consecutive playoff appearances. Dolan may have loved him, but I don't think Sather did.



I loved Torts. But wouldnt Kreider pretty much have to get traded? Didnt they hate each other?
Pleasantly surprised at that win  
BestFeature : 5/8/2021 6:34 pm : link
Shocked really. We were really undermanned and to score 5 goals against the Bruins just shows you how much talent this team has when healthy and shows you why Quinn needs to be fired into outter space.
RE: What is everybody's opinion on the firing  
Vanzetti : 5/8/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15258515 chopperhatch said:
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Of upper management? A lot of people are talking about Dolan butting in, but you simply cannot deny that many talented, young players are just not developing at the right pace.

Gotta believe Quinn gets another chance given the run the team made despite the adversity they faced....and that pisses me off


Zero chance Quinn is back.

He is not an NHL coach. Not a coincidence Rangers played some of their best hockey when Quinn was not behind the bench
RE: RE: What is everybody's opinion on the firing  
BestFeature : 5/8/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15258787 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 15258515 chopperhatch said:


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Of upper management? A lot of people are talking about Dolan butting in, but you simply cannot deny that many talented, young players are just not developing at the right pace.

Gotta believe Quinn gets another chance given the run the team made despite the adversity they faced....and that pisses me off



Zero chance Quinn is back.

He is not an NHL coach. Not a coincidence Rangers played some of their best hockey when Quinn was not behind the bench


The worst thing is not only is he not an NHL coach, he's terrible developing players. Today in the last game of the season, a meaningless game where half the team is injured he still played Blackwell on the PP1 over Lafreniere.
RE: Nice to see us end on a high note  
Vanzetti : 5/8/2021 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15258656 Anakim said:
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But just a little too late. Quinn should go. I expect Strome and Buchnevich to get traded, along with a couple of our young D prospects.


As long as they bring Howden back, I’m happy
Dolan is, well you guys know already  
Dave on the UWS : 5/9/2021 10:23 am : link
but he’s not wrong this time.
Having SO many kids and not enough vets to help them grow was on management. Quinn clearly, was not the right coach, but management didn’t seem to realize it. It’s one thing to accumulate a ton of skill talent, but it doesn’t mean the team was good OR well thought out.
In his presser, Dolan gave credit for accumulating the talent, but I think he was generally alluding to the above. Bringing In Messier, to work with Drury would not be a bad thing. They then need to bring in a coach where everyone has the same vision on how to build a “team”.
That’s what’s going on with the Knicks I think Dolan wants the same setup with the Blue Shirts. Slather needs to stay out of the way though, he’s not helping anything by sticking his nose in.
RE: RE: What is everybody's opinion on the firing  
ColHowPepper : 5/9/2021 10:36 am : link
In comment 15258787 Vanzetti said:
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....Zero chance Quinn is back.

He is not an NHL coach. Not a coincidence Rangers played some of their best hockey when Quinn was not behind the bench
V, while I may agree with the last part of this, I disagree with the 'zero', and not just because zero is an absolute that is difficult to achieve. I'd put the odds at closer to even, not because I think he's a good coach at this level or for this team, or that he pulled all the right levers. Clearly there are lots of reasons to say he's not, he didn't.

Drury, the team's new GM, brought Quinn in by most accounts. For Drury to give Quinn the axe throws shade on Dolan's judgment: you fire the Pres and GM of a team in transition but promote the guy who made a bad coaching hire? Who did Quinn point to near the top of his post-game yesterday, congratulating him on his first win as.....GM? Drury, of course. And to my subjective eye, Quinn looked too complacent Thursday night and almost smug yesterday afternoon: I'd wager it's not beyond probability Drury has already whispered that he's safe, for another year. It may not be what we want to hear, but it's far from zero chance.
CHP  
arniefez : 5/9/2021 2:01 pm : link
an astute post and very much the way things work at MSG. That's the Dolan culture
Encouraging article from Larry Brooks  
arniefez : 5/9/2021 2:12 pm : link
at least in my opinion.

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The Rangers have made changes in the front office. They will make changes in the lineup. The smart money is on a change behind the bench as well.

The determining factor in Chris Drury’s massive David Quinn decision - ( New Window )
RE: Encouraging article from Larry Brooks  
BestFeature : 5/9/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15259104 arniefez said:
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at least in my opinion.



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The Rangers have made changes in the front office. They will make changes in the lineup. The smart money is on a change behind the bench as well.

The determining factor in Chris Drury’s massive David Quinn decision - ( New Window )


Not a big deal and not relevant to the Rangers the Bruins weren't cup champions in 2012-2013, they were finalists but the Blackhawks were champions.
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