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| The Relative Athletic Score is a metric used to gauge athletic abilities relative to position. Since 1987, there have been 1,371 defensive ends measured. Of those, Elerson Smith ranks 40th all-time. Great. But does the fourth-round pick from Northern Iowa pass the Bryce Paup test? "Even in the NFL, there's about five percent that can get away with that," said Paup, a four-time Pro Bowl linebacker and the 1995 AP Defensive Player of the Year who now coaches defensive linemen at UNI, his alma mater. "But eventually it catches up with them, and if they don't use every aspect to get better, they're going to get passed up in a hurry..." |
It sure sounds like Paup dropping the hammer on him, so to speak, really lit a fire under him.
Carter had a top score of 10.
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I even thought he might have been first.
Carter had a top score of 10.
I am pretty amazed at how many posters forget just how disruptive Carter looked at the beginning of last season. Numbers werent there, but he was def wrecking his side of the LOS.
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I even thought he might have been first.
Carter had a top score of 10.
I am pretty amazed at how many posters forget just how disruptive Carter looked at the beginning of last season. Numbers werent there, but he was def wrecking his side of the LOS.
Yup. Carter has to prove he can stay on the field, but he played a lot better than most people seem to give him credit for before his injury
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I even thought he might have been first.
Carter had a top score of 10.
I am pretty amazed at how many posters forget just how disruptive Carter looked at the beginning of last season. Numbers werent there, but he was def wrecking his side of the LOS.
I had pointed out during last March, he geared up like crazy last offseason. Was expecting a big jump from him, he obviously paid the price for too much too fast.
Ximines just looks to slow. Maybe he’ll develop late as he gains old man strength, but he really doesn’t look to have the prerequisite speed. Was hoping he’d develop into a Shaq Barrett type.
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In both free agency and the draft, and I don't think it's because they have a lot of faith in Carter...or Ximines, for that matter.
Ximines just looks to slow. Maybe he’ll develop late as he gains old man strength, but he really doesn’t look to have the prerequisite speed. Was hoping he’d develop into a Shaq Barrett type.
Yeah, when X was drafted, Carl Banks reviewed his college tape with Bob Papa and was raving about X's hand usage and the variety of his pass moves. He didn't outright dismiss the level of competition, but he kind of glossed over it. I thought, well, maybe we've got something here. But, man is he slow, and a guy his size shouldn't get "caught up in the wash" as often as he does.
With Carter, I'm really worried about his injury. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts the season on the PUP list or on IR.
Carter was the guy who was clueless starting out. Ximines had a well crafted game, just looks a step slow for NFL level.
With the additions of Azeez Ojulari and Elerson Smith combined with the return of promising second year players Cam Brown and Carter Coughlin plus the additions of Odenigbo and Ryan Anderson there isn’t room to keep an OLB who hasn’t shown steady progress.
I predict that the Giants will keep just 5 defensive linemen and 3 ILB’s so that they can keep extra OLB’s. Odenigbo will be listed as an OLB but he can also play 5-technique DE on passing downs. Also, I expect the Giants to give Coughlin, Brown, and Anderson time at ILB in camp.
I am expecting Carter to start out on the PUP list so that opens up one spot for the beginning of the season. I think the Giants OLB’s will be Azeez Ojulari, Ifeadi Odenigbo, Ryan Anderson, Elerson Smith, Cam Brown, Oshane Ximines, and Carter Coughlin.
While there aren’t any stars at OLB it is an impressive group of young talent that the Giants have accumulated over the last two offseasons. With two 1st round picks next year we will likely see another talented edge rusher added to the roster.
As for Elerson Smith, I liked him more before I read what Paup had to say...
The same thing happened two weeks later in preparation for North Dakota State, the FCS equivalent of Alabama who also liked to sprint out with trips to the right. Smith didn't learn his lesson. With his eyes down again, he admitted to not watching film.
In any case, as with fellow small school, mid-round prospects Ximines and Peart, the hope is that an NFL program and NFL coaching can get him to reach his potential. And I believe in his potential.
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As for Elerson Smith, I liked him more before I read what Paup had to say...
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I don't like that it took being punished to get him to watch film. He is a promising talent, but you get a glimpse there of why he was a 4th round pick who had to take the Northern Iowa route to the NFL. When it comes to small school standouts with elite measurables, I'm not just looking to see if he dominated his level of competition, I want to know why he was at a lower level of competition to begin with. Sometimes it's perfectly understandable, other times it's a red flag. Does he love football or is he in it for the paycheck?
In any case, as with fellow small school, mid-round prospects Ximines and Peart, the hope is that an NFL program and NFL coaching can get him to reach his potential. And I believe in his potential.
I’m trying to track how you went from guy playing at lower level competition or in it for paycheck to “does he love football red flag”. If anything it shows the guy actually likes playing football as opposed to some guy at a football factory getting kickbacks, perks, and with a much higher chance at pro football
I’m trying to track how you went from guy playing at lower level competition or in it for paycheck to “does he love football red flag”.
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I’m trying to track how you went from guy playing at lower level competition or in it for paycheck to “does he love football red flag”.
The part where he had to be told twice to watch film.
Yeah, because kids never have to be told to do something more than once.
I don't care when the light came on for Smith. I'm just glad that it did.
Ximines hasn't shown much and Lorenzo Carter is coming off a major injury. There is no guarantee that Carter will make a complete recovery. There is a small chance that his career could be over. It's a shame because Carter appeared to be turning a corner last season.
The Giants are planning for the worst. Even if Carter doesn't return the Giants have built a young talented group of OLB's with Ojulari, Odenigbo, Anderson, Smith, Brown, Ximines, and Coughlin. With all that depth the Giants don't need to rush Carter back.