for the future with the young talent we have now plus 7 picks in the first 4 rounds next year (including two 1st’s). Gives us the chance to move up for just about any player or stay put and build up even more depth.
And worst case, Jones has a bad season and we can package up some picks to move up and select the next QB. Keep in mind even if Jones has a crappy third year and we draft another QB it’s not really cost ineffective to keep Jones for year 4 and let him compete with the new guy. He’s still on a rookie scale deal.
Exciting time to be a Giants fan.
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It also brings out some strange arguments. For example, most posters seen to agree that this is a prove it year for Jones. But many are also arguing that he has played well to this point. I don't get that...if he has played well why does he have to prove anything?
More utter bullshit from you. What posters have said he has played well?
Ha! Are you seriously trying to say that no one has said he played well his rookie year, or invoked it as a glimpse of how awesome Jones can be?
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...simply one of self-awareness.
Calmly telling people that they're not "telling anyone what to think or expect..."
...after telling everyone what to think and what to expect.
Believing that coming into a room full of what they call fanboys (they have no respect for fanboys), who are talking about how good things look and telling them that their opinions are wrong and that the QB is and always will be, bad.
Then claiming to just be discussing the team or making the conversation less boring.
Which ultimately means...making the conversation about themselves.
And finally, claiming "both sides" and playing the victim.
The self-awareness issue is actually yours. Those posters don't do what you are suggesting. In fact, they typically become the conversation because so many here want to argue specifically with them and it becomes the drama.
The self-awareness issue is actually yours. Those posters don't do what you are suggesting. In fact, they typically become the conversation because so many here want to argue specifically with them and it becomes the drama.
Thanks.
It's often true though. I mean, I'm sure Chopperhatch honestly believes that Terps constantly brags about his anti-Beckham stance being vindicated, but I personally haven't seen that... maybe just a few mentions once in a blue moon. It's like the people who believe there's a War on Christmas.
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The self-awareness issue is actually yours. Those posters don't do what you are suggesting. In fact, they typically become the conversation because so many here want to argue specifically with them and it becomes the drama.
Thanks.
It's often true though. I mean, I'm sure Chopperhatch honestly believes that Terps constantly brags about his anti-Beckham stance being vindicated, but I personally haven't seen that... maybe just a few mentions once in a blue moon. It's like the people who believe there's a War on Christmas.
I haven't seen it either. Yes, it has been mentioned but never in a bragging sense. Moreso in just reasonably displaying that he has some common sense in reading situations well in the past while defending himself from a current attack.
As mentioned earlier, a couple of guys here go very hard on Jones, Gettleman and few other NYG'isms, sometimes even overboard. So some backlash should be expected and even accepted. But the masses that form in these threads to try and shut anti-Giant talk like that down is borderline insane. Some try to do it rationally, but way too many make it a personal vendetta and lose their minds or just likely do so to activate themselves into a thread.
Either way, in my view they are the true hijackers. The hot takes in a thread are always going to be prevalent to some degree. And hot takes go both ways...positive and negative.
The jury is out. Optimists will hope. Pessimists will fear. The camps will divide...to the victor the spoils of war.
I remember when I used to think bw was serious...good days in the pollyanna fanclub. Still glad he's back. Much easier to read than Eeyore.
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In comment 15260989 Greg from LI said:
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...than the constant declarations that anyone who is remotely critical is "shitting on the team".
Who has been "remotely critical?'
"Shitting on the team" is ambiguous and not what I had in mimd when discussing these posters.
"Vomiting up the same narrative in the absence of any logic that combats prevailing opinions based on the entire status of the other personnel on the roster" is one I take exception to.
If you take exception then why engage and refer to them directly as "dip shits" no less like you did earlier.
You're looking to only pick a fight and rip into them.
A few of these guys go overboard with the Jones narrative in my view but its the opposition that actually hijacks and ruins threads, not them.
That’s all he does, follow them around threads and name calls. Your typical online tough guy. Then a few others follow them around, and have the same arguments. Now remembering posts from years ago, lol wow.
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The self-awareness issue is actually yours. Those posters don't do what you are suggesting. In fact, they typically become the conversation because so many here want to argue specifically with them and it becomes the drama.
Thanks.
It's often true though. I mean, I'm sure Chopperhatch honestly believes that Terps constantly brags about his anti-Beckham stance being vindicated, but I personally haven't seen that... maybe just a few mentions once in a blue moon. It's like the people who believe there's a War on Christmas.
I haven't seen it either. Yes, it has been mentioned but never in a bragging sense. Moreso in just reasonably displaying that he has some common sense in reading situations well in the past while defending himself from a current attack.
As mentioned earlier, a couple of guys here go very hard on Jones, Gettleman and few other NYG'isms, sometimes even overboard. So some backlash should be expected and even accepted. But the masses that form in these threads to try and shut anti-Giant talk like that down is borderline insane. Some try to do it rationally, but way too many make it a personal vendetta and lose their minds or just likely do so to activate themselves into a thread.
Either way, in my view they are the true hijackers. The hot takes in a thread are always going to be prevalent to some degree. And hot takes go both ways...positive and negative.
I’m not sure that the best way to fight back against a perceived myth is to create on of your own.
The reason is because he is our QB, I could not care less about proving posters wrong...who cares!
Go get a playoff season. love the coach, the D could be very good.