NFT: KNICKS VS LAKERS 10PM

he blatantly traveled, then they have the nerve to call a travel on Randle. Just bullshit.

Go home and take the next 3.
Heartbreaking loss but no one could shoot tonight and D.Rose willed them to stay in the game.

Lose to AD having an off night surrounded by a bunch of stiffs who'd have a hard time starting for the fucking TWolves.

5 points in 46 minutes

Win out and they're solid.

That's a tough west coast trip and they held.

Rough flight home tonight.

Was awful tonight, he looked slow and shot was awful. As soon as they called the last time out with 50 seconds left I texted my buddy…not having time outs is going to cost them.

In comment 15261608 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15261601 KDubbs said: Quote: this dude really hogs the ball at key times and cant make a simple pass when a double team comes and either turns it over or takes a shot clock violation. frustrating Hogs the ball, who else did you want to have it? this is ehat the playoffs is , iso slow it down low scoring..

so the knicks last possession of regulation you were ok with that shit? make the pass and get a shot off. The guys an MVP candidate and I love him but he's not beyond being criticized for doing that crap every now and then

In comment 15261615 KDubbs said:

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In comment 15261608 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15261601 KDubbs said: Quote: this dude really hogs the ball at key times and cant make a simple pass when a double team comes and either turns it over or takes a shot clock violation. frustrating Hogs the ball, who else did you want to have it? this is ehat the playoffs is , iso slow it down low scoring.. so the knicks last possession of regulation you were ok with that shit? make the pass and get a shot off. The guys an MVP candidate and I love him but he's not beyond being criticized for doing that crap every now and then

there was 3 seconds left and he got a wide open look he just missed it

Boy are we gonna remember this one.

cant be horribly mad they went 3-3 bjt this one still hurts felt like they gave the game away..

Miami has a tough close to their season..

In comment 15261616 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15261615 KDubbs said: Quote: In comment 15261608 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15261601 KDubbs said: Quote: this dude really hogs the ball at key times and cant make a simple pass when a double team comes and either turns it over or takes a shot clock violation. frustrating Hogs the ball, who else did you want to have it? this is ehat the playoffs is , iso slow it down low scoring.. so the knicks last possession of regulation you were ok with that shit? make the pass and get a shot off. The guys an MVP candidate and I love him but he's not beyond being criticized for doing that crap every now and then there was 3 seconds left and he got a wide open look he just missed it

thats obviously not what im talking about. sorry i forgot he got a shot off after he caused a shot clock violation which led to nobody boxing out wes matthews leading to OT.

and tried to move it but it was to late, who else do you want to have the ball? him and rose were the reason the game was even close

And lord knows the very fact that I'm sng here after 1am on May 12th irate about a Knicks game is a beautiful thing. We have to find a way to have better last possessions in one possession games. Yes regulation was a good shot, but too many times this year the last possession has gone like the one in OT.

when iq and burkes come back, cant keep holding on while Payton plays..

In comment 15261623 nygiants16 said:

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when iq and burkes come back, cant keep holding on while Payton plays..

Man did we miss IQ and Burks tonight, especially late in regulation and OT. RJ would not have been on the court.

Sorry, but he didn’t just “miss” it. Watch the replay, I know it was a 24 footer but that dude was to the left by like 4 feet. It wasn’t even close

And I love RJ Barrett (and the leap he’s made this year) but there are times he gets some serious jitters and tonight was one of them.


In comment 15261616 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15261615 KDubbs said: Quote: In comment 15261608 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15261601 KDubbs said: Quote: this dude really hogs the ball at key times and cant make a simple pass when a double team comes and either turns it over or takes a shot clock violation. frustrating Hogs the ball, who else did you want to have it? this is ehat the playoffs is , iso slow it down low scoring.. so the knicks last possession of regulation you were ok with that shit? make the pass and get a shot off. The guys an MVP candidate and I love him but he's not beyond being criticized for doing that crap every now and then there was 3 seconds left and he got a wide open look he just missed it

If he’s injured I honestly missed that. Hopefully he plays against the fucking Heat

considering how much energy they've put into this road trip. Too bad we couldn't seal the deal in regulation. Still, this team has a huge heart.

We need 90s Dennis Rodman on this team do dirty work down low. Taj sometimes fills that role but we need someone better and more physically gifted ultimately. Do we think Mitchell Robinson is our big of the future?

I love him as depth of course but I feel like a guy like Taj but better is what we need (I Love Taj don’t get me wrong but he’s not going to be the guy)

In comment 15261613 Bricktop said:

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Win out and they're solid. That's a tough west coast trip and they held. Rough flight home tonight.

If they can make it through that trip together they can make it through anything. That trip should’ve toughened them up just at the right time, going into the playoffs but with a nice home stretch to get their bearings back. That said— I’m pissed we came within 1 rebound of finishing the trip 4-2 and only needing 2 of these last 3. 3 in a row in the NBA is always tonight regardless of opponents and even when you’re home. If I had to bet I’d say we go 2-1 , but: hopefully the Heat drop both to the Sixers and Bucks and hopefully Westbrook can get one on ATL w/ no Beal tomorrow. Sixers still haven’t locked up the 1 seed so no testing their guys luckily— hopefully Embiid plays I have no clue why he didn’t play tonight..

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3-3 on road trip..

1 more win or Celtics loss and Knicks are in..

Heat still have to play Sixers and Bucks and Butler was hurt last night and didnt return..

Knicks own the tiebreaker over the Hawks so even if they win out unless Heat also win out, the Knicks control their own destiny..

Tonight another big night of scoreboard watching, Wizards vs Hawks and Celts play thr Cavs most likely without Kemba and Brown

Sounds like a worthy effort but a gut shot of a loss.

3-3 on a really tough west coast trip is nothing to complain about...now let’s finish the week out in a big way

That was a tough, tough game. Credit to the Lakers for being a tough and willing defensive team. And AD is a good guy to have when the Knicks down the stretch strategy is "ISO Randle"

away from being a 2nd round team, maybe an ecf team

Just watched it fresh...God I hate the Lakers.

I don't know where we'd be without Rose. We gotta keep him this summer.

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Just watched it fresh...God I hate the Lakers. I don't know where we'd be without Rose. We gotta keep him this summer.

Imagine not being down every time he came in

hurt so the bench is short, but I don't see why RJ deserves such a long leash when he's not playing well. It wasn't just the bricks. He had several defensive lapses and a terrible turnover in the 4th quarter on a fast break. Lately, the only shots he's hitting at a decent clip are 3s. Excluding 3s, he's shooting 29% this month.

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hurt so the bench is short, but I don't see why RJ deserves such a long leash when he's not playing well. It wasn't just the bricks. He had several defensive lapses and a terrible turnover in the 4th quarter on a fast break. Lately, the only shots he's hitting at a decent clip are 3s. Excluding 3s, he's shooting 29% this month.

Habe no idea why Thibs took out Frank for overtime

best game IMO. Not having a timeout for the last sequence was a killer. Rose and others were visibly gassed at times. Obi and Payton are both pretty bad most of the time, but some fresh legs for a 2-3 minute stretch might have helped.

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hurt so the bench is short, but I don't see why RJ deserves such a long leash when he's not playing well. It wasn't just the bricks. He had several defensive lapses and a terrible turnover in the 4th quarter on a fast break. Lately, the only shots he's hitting at a decent clip are 3s. Excluding 3s, he's shooting 29% this month.

RJ was bad, but also we've seen RJ be bad and then bounce back in the second half or down the stretch. That did not happen last night, but it seems like Thibs gives RJ the oppotunity to turn things around. I'm ok with it, especially because RJ's development continuing is a key goal for the year. He'll definitely learn from last night.

is that RJ gets the long leash to "develop" during stretches of poor play while others do not.

but we still have some games to play. Hope for that 4/5 seed but the team has already far exceeded all of my expectations for them this year, they're honestly just not as talented as a lot of these upper echelon teams.

1 win or Boston loss Knicks clinch top 6..

All 3 teams tied after these 3 games Knicks are the 6th seed.

Knicms go 3-0 and Heat go 3-0 and Hawks 2-1 knkcks are 5th seed..

Knicks go 3-0 heat 2-1 knicks are 4th seed

In comment 15261793 Enzo said:

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is that RJ gets the long leash to "develop" during stretches of poor play while others do not.

I dunno. He's been really good for the past month, aside from maybe the Denver game where everyone sucked. I can't blame Thibs because he struggled for one game. From my perspective, he's been solid enough that he's really earned a long leash.

Either way, let's hope he gets back to playing well right away. Lets win out!

In comment 15261793 Enzo said:

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is that RJ gets the long leash to "develop" during stretches of poor play while others do not.

What others are you talking about? He gets a long leash because 1)he's shown much more than anyone else 2)Toppin gets less of a chance because he's blocked by Randle. Who would block Barrett, especially with Burks out?

You could see Rose got gassed a little at the end having to control the offense every single possession, down the stretch you had 2 options in Randle and Rose and thats it..

With Burks and Iq it would of given you 2 more ball handlers and 2 more shot creators..

In comment 15261843 Heisenberg said:

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In comment 15261793 Enzo said: Quote: is that RJ gets the long leash to "develop" during stretches of poor play while others do not. I dunno. He's been really good for the past month, aside from maybe the Denver game where everyone sucked. I can't blame Thibs because he struggled for one game. From my perspective, he's been solid enough that he's really earned a long leash.

I don't know that he's been playing really good. The shooting is obviously improved, but there are quite a few negative plays/mental mistakes. Payton gets a ton of well deserved blame for the slow starts, but RJ is part of it as well.

Not great, but good, and he does seem to have a knack for making big plays in the 4th quarter. He's still got plenty of room for improvement but I think he's come a long way since last season, when I was one of his biggest critics.

In comment 15261719 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15261715 Enzo said: Quote: hurt so the bench is short, but I don't see why RJ deserves such a long leash when he's not playing well. It wasn't just the bricks. He had several defensive lapses and a terrible turnover in the 4th quarter on a fast break. Lately, the only shots he's hitting at a decent clip are 3s. Excluding 3s, he's shooting 29% this month. Habe no idea why Thibs took out Frank for overtime

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In comment 15261861 Enzo said:

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In comment 15261843 Heisenberg said: Quote: In comment 15261793 Enzo said: Quote: is that RJ gets the long leash to "develop" during stretches of poor play while others do not. I dunno. He's been really good for the past month, aside from maybe the Denver game where everyone sucked. I can't blame Thibs because he struggled for one game. From my perspective, he's been solid enough that he's really earned a long leash. I don't know that he's been playing really good. The shooting is obviously improved, but there are quite a few negative plays/mental mistakes. Payton gets a ton of well deserved blame for the slow starts, but RJ is part of it as well.

That's fair. I guess I'd just say that given Quick and Burks were out, there weren't many better options available last night. Thibs might have yanked him for one of those on a different night where one or both were healthy.

he has no in between game yet, he hasnt learned when to pull up and when to drive all the way to the hoop. He gets stuck to many times and that is where those bad plays come..

Miami has the toughest schedule.
76ers, Bucks and pistons
Atl-
Washington, Magic, and Rockets

I guess we are all Westbrook fans tonight.

I think Miami drops at least 1 game

In comment 15261972 larryflower37 said:

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Miami has the toughest schedule. 76ers, Bucks and pistons Atl- Washington, Magic, and Rockets I guess we are all Westbrook fans tonight. I think Miami drops at least 1 game

Spurs will be on a back to back and so will Boston when the Knicks play them..

I think Hornets will be toughest but they may have nothing to play for

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In comment 15261972 larryflower37 said: Quote: Miami has the toughest schedule. 76ers, Bucks and pistons Atl- Washington, Magic, and Rockets I guess we are all Westbrook fans tonight. I think Miami drops at least 1 game Spurs will be on a back to back and so will Boston when the Knicks play them.. I think Hornets will be toughest but they may have nothing to play for

Good info.

In comment 15261911 nygiants16 said:

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he has no in between game yet, he hasnt learned when to pull up and when to drive all the way to the hoop. He gets stuck to many times and that is where those bad plays come..

the numbers are pretty bad. he's shooting about 32% from both 3-10 ft and 10-16 ft. Additionally, there are several times a game where he attempts a 3 off the kick out when the defender is flying towards him and there's an easy opportunity for a shot fake and then a drive. But he ALWAYS shoots the 3 there. Most of the time, I'd say that's the right play since he's proven to be an above average shooter from long range, but there's quite a few times when you can tell his feet are not set and he misses badly.

In comment 15262039 Enzo said:

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In comment 15261911 nygiants16 said: Quote: he has no in between game yet, he hasnt learned when to pull up and when to drive all the way to the hoop. He gets stuck to many times and that is where those bad plays come.. the numbers are pretty bad. he's shooting about 32% from both 3-10 ft and 10-16 ft. Additionally, there are several times a game where he attempts a 3 off the kick out when the defender is flying towards him and there's an easy opportunity for a shot fake and then a drive. But he ALWAYS shoots the 3 there. Most of the time, I'd say that's the right play since he's proven to be an above average shooter from long range, but there's quite a few times when you can tell his feet are not set and he misses badly.

Yup we all hate Payton but Rj has been part of the problem recently as well..

Starting unit relies on Randle to create and score and Bullock to knock down open shots..

Takes Rj awhile to get into a flow

unless Randle and/or Bullock come out on fire, which does happen. Elf and Noel should not be starting on a good team. Thibs really should run away with Coach of the Year, with all due respect to Monty and Snyder - he's doing quite a bit of this with smoke and mirrors.

In comment 15262055 bceagle05 said:

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unless Randle and/or Bullock come out on fire, which does happen. Elf and Noel should not be starting on a good team. Thibs really should run away with Coach of the Year, with all due respect to Monty and Snyder - he's doing quite a bit of this with smoke and mirrors.

The only reason they are not down 10 right away is because of how good they are defensively