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Are the Giants A Playoff Category Team?

gidiefor : Mod : 5/11/2021 2:19 pm
: ) I think so

Take a listen to Alex Wilson's "Fireside Rants" take - he makes a lot of very good points.

What say you?
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Yes, imo  
Big Blue '56 : 5/11/2021 2:22 pm : link
Btw, why do the font sizes change with some of the opened threads, Hasn’t happened to me before
RE: Yes, imo  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/11/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15260814 Big Blue '56 said:
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Btw, why do the font sizes change with some of the opened threads, Hasn’t happened to me before


Glasses?
RE: RE: Yes, imo  
Big Blue '56 : 5/11/2021 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15260815 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15260814 Big Blue '56 said:


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Btw, why do the font sizes change with some of the opened threads, Hasn’t happened to me before



Glasses?


Murderer!
Jones needs to show a lot more  
Mike in NY : 5/11/2021 2:29 pm : link
For that to happen
I think the roster is much improved. Question is how  
Victor in CT : 5/11/2021 2:32 pm : link
quickly they can meld it all together. Given a full training camp and pre-season I think Judge and staff can pull it off.
There are two major unknowns  
BillT : 5/11/2021 2:35 pm : link
We don’t know how good our OL is. We don’t know how good Daniel Jones is. As far as the OL they have to show me. I thought we had a solution there two years ago. Nope. One year ago. Nope. So until they prove it they aren’t good enough. As far as Jones goes I’m completely confident in him being a good QB which means absolutely zilch. He needs to go out there and prove it as well which won’t be easy if the OL isn’t good enough. The entire season rests on these two things. If they are answered in the affirmative then we certainly are good enough as the rest of the team is both plenty talented and reasonably deep.
We have a playoff caliber  
eric2425ny : 5/11/2021 2:39 pm : link
defense, we need the offense to step up now.
This Giants team  
BSIMatt : 5/11/2021 2:41 pm : link
Is capable of making the playoffs yes.
I think we're a playoff contender. Whether we can make the playoffs  
Ira : 5/11/2021 2:45 pm : link
is another question.
Think so  
Thegratefulhead : 5/11/2021 2:48 pm : link
NFCE is weak and playoffs are expanded. I am not betting my house.
Yes. They have built an off season roster that is playoff caliber  
Ben in Tampa : 5/11/2021 2:49 pm : link
Of course the variables start to pile up once the regular season begins

It is put up or shut up time for Jones now.
Almost every NFL team is "if"  
arniefez : 5/11/2021 2:59 pm : link
Very few are with no if's and a few aren't even if all the "if's" fall into place.

IMO the Giants have three "if's"

1. If they aren't decimated by injuries. That applies to almost every team if not all.

2. If Daniel Jones plays well enough to be considered a top half of the league QB. That means 15th or better. Last year he was bottom 10 and closer to 30 than 20.

3. If the Oline plays well enough that Jones is a top 15 NFL QB.

The Giants have improved the top of their roster and the bottom of their roster. They spent a lot of money on 3 players in FA and drafted a gamebreaker on offense and a pass rusher on defense. If all five play to the level expected that will greatly improve the top part of the roster (I know L Williams was on the team last year but he had no contract for 2021).

IMO most of the remaining free agents that were signed and the drafts picks along with the UDFAs will replace the bottom 10-15 who were below replacement players that were on the 2020 roster.

I think it's a very exciting time to be a Giant fan. They're going to need good health and some football luck to make the playoffs but I expect a much better team than last year.
The Giants were within a whisker of winning the NFC East last year  
JohnB : 5/11/2021 3:03 pm : link
So sure, why not?
If the Giants were in a good division...no chance!  
GMen72 : 5/11/2021 3:16 pm : link
...but in this division, we're definitely in the playoff talk because 9-8 could win this division.

Are we a Superbowl level playoff team? No. Can we sneak into a playoff game by winning our division? Yes...it's possible.
Giants are certainly a legit  
joeinpa : 5/11/2021 3:31 pm : link
Contender for the NFC East, so yes.

I ve seen enough From Daniel Jones to know he won’t be the reason they don’t make it. I just don’t get the narrative surrounding him.

This kid all through college and his first 2 years as a pro he has lined up at quarterback for the inferior team in the majority of his starts, won’t be the case this season.
Defense will be very good imo  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/11/2021 3:43 pm : link
Specials will have a emphasis so I expect better performance.

I think all of last years playoff teams at least 375 total yards and 25 ppg. Giants had about 300 and 17.5 ppg. There should be no excuse with all they added and Barkley back that they can't get to the that baseline. I think they will have to win the East to get in.
We were  
Biteymax22 : 5/11/2021 3:49 pm : link
an Evan Engram drop away from being in the playoffs last year and have a better roster right now than we did at any point last year.

If the offensive line and Jones are at least average, our defense can win us the division.
It's freaking May  
Sec 103 : 5/11/2021 4:18 pm : link
Let's talk in late December, or even November...
On paper  
darren in pdx : 5/11/2021 4:36 pm : link
they should be a strong contender for a spot but I don't know if they are there yet. Really what it comes down to is the defense getting better at getting stops on 3rd down and the offense scoring more points. Less turnovers from Jones and the trio of him/Barkley/Golladay staying relatively healthy. As long as Jones progresses, I'll feel really good going into 2022 with those extra draft picks.
Based on this offseason, we had better be  
D HOS : 5/11/2021 4:56 pm : link
I was expecting this to be, maybe not rebuilding year, but maybe "maturation" year and starting in 2022 we make our run.

But the offseason they had, surely that has to change expectations. They made a statement that they are not showing up to compete, they are coming to win. They are gunning for the division. If they do not win the division, I would say they underachived. If they don't make the playoffs, I would say that is a fail, based on the offseason moves.
They better be  
ZogZerg : 5/11/2021 5:32 pm : link
..
RE: Almost every NFL team is  
TLong : 5/11/2021 5:47 pm : link
In comment 15260895 arniefez said:
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Very few are with no if's and a few aren't even if all the "if's" fall into place.

IMO the Giants have three "if's"

1. If they aren't decimated by injuries. That applies to almost every team if not all.

2. If Daniel Jones plays well enough to be considered a top half of the league QB. That means 15th or better. Last year he was bottom 10 and closer to 30 than 20.

3. If the Oline plays well enough that Jones is a top 15 NFL QB.

The Giants have improved the top of their roster and the bottom of their roster. They spent a lot of money on 3 players in FA and drafted a gamebreaker on offense and a pass rusher on defense. If all five play to the level expected that will greatly improve the top part of the roster (I know L Williams was on the team last year but he had no contract for 2021).

IMO most of the remaining free agents that were signed and the drafts picks along with the UDFAs will replace the bottom 10-15 who were below replacement players that were on the 2020 roster.

I think it's a very exciting time to be a Giant fan. They're going to need good health and some football luck to make the playoffs but I expect a much better team than last year.


Yes!
We're a fucking juggernaut that wil be unstoppable  
gtt350 : 5/11/2021 8:43 pm : link
Too much firepower and a staunch stonewall defense.
Absolutely!  
exiled : 5/11/2021 10:39 pm : link
‘nuff said
They should be.  
barens : 5/11/2021 10:50 pm : link
Gotta take down the Cowboys.
RE: We're a fucking juggernaut that wil be unstoppable  
Jimmy Googs : 5/11/2021 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15261283 gtt350 said:
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Too much firepower and a staunch stonewall defense.


Can’t stop them, only hope to contain ‘em...
RE: We're a fucking juggernaut that wil be unstoppable  
EmusNYG : 5/11/2021 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15261283 gtt350 said:
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Too much firepower and a staunch stonewall defense.


This is the enthusiasm I like to see!
Absolutely - Yes!  
giantstock : 5/11/2021 11:16 pm : link
They are in an awful division. IMO Judge is better than at least two of the coaches.

And if they are right about their OL and if their CB's come through - absolutely- YES!
The defense is certainly...  
bw in dc : 5/11/2021 11:22 pm : link
playoff caliber.

They aren't  
Bill in UT : 5/12/2021 12:57 am : link
until they prove that they are.
I can't help it....  
Grizz99 : 5/12/2021 2:22 am : link
I think you[re missing the point... I think the argument should be "if this is a superbowl team".?
This team is loaded. EVen the depth is very good and they are about as injury proof as you can get.
Who's missing the point?  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/12/2021 8:44 am : link
the post was about a video I linked -- maybe take a look ?
RE: Almost every NFL team is  
Klaatu : 5/12/2021 9:02 am : link
In comment 15260895 arniefez said:
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Very few are with no if's and a few aren't even if all the "if's" fall into place.

IMO the Giants have three "if's"

1. If they aren't decimated by injuries. That applies to almost every team if not all.

2. If Daniel Jones plays well enough to be considered a top half of the league QB. That means 15th or better. Last year he was bottom 10 and closer to 30 than 20.

3. If the Oline plays well enough that Jones is a top 15 NFL QB.

The Giants have improved the top of their roster and the bottom of their roster. They spent a lot of money on 3 players in FA and drafted a gamebreaker on offense and a pass rusher on defense. If all five play to the level expected that will greatly improve the top part of the roster (I know L Williams was on the team last year but he had no contract for 2021).

IMO most of the remaining free agents that were signed and the drafts picks along with the UDFAs will replace the bottom 10-15 who were below replacement players that were on the 2020 roster.

I think it's a very exciting time to be a Giant fan. They're going to need good health and some football luck to make the playoffs but I expect a much better team than last year.


My sentiments exactly.
if they stay healthy  
US1 Giants : 5/12/2021 9:05 am : link
and Jones stops fumbling, then they can contend for the playoffs.
RE: Who's missing the point?  
Klaatu : 5/12/2021 9:55 am : link
In comment 15261721 gidiefor said:
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the post was about a video I linked -- maybe take a look ?


Alex Wilson makes ryanmkeane look like GoTerps. At least when Anthony Rivardo is on you get some balance.
RE: RE: Who's missing the point?  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/12/2021 9:58 am : link
In comment 15261854 Klaatu said:
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In comment 15261721 gidiefor said:


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the post was about a video I linked -- maybe take a look ?



Alex Wilson makes ryanmkeane look like GoTerps. At least when Anthony Rivardo is on you get some balance.


I don't know Klaatu -- I don;t think you meant it that way, but that was pretty much a complement
RE: RE: RE: Who's missing the point?  
Klaatu : 5/12/2021 10:05 am : link
In comment 15261860 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15261854 Klaatu said:


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In comment 15261721 gidiefor said:


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the post was about a video I linked -- maybe take a look ?



Alex Wilson makes ryanmkeane look like GoTerps. At least when Anthony Rivardo is on you get some balance.



I don't know Klaatu -- I don;t think you meant it that way, but that was pretty much a complement


What I meant was that Wilson is always overwhelmingly optimistic, and his analysis is always skewed that way.

Frankly, I think much of it is unrealistic.
I agree that he is optimistic  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/12/2021 10:11 am : link
but he made some very good points in that video
it would not surprise this fan  
mpinmaine : 5/12/2021 9:48 pm : link
if they only won 7 or if they went 12-5 and made it to the NFC championship game..

How's that for not commiting?
I think we have some talent on D
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