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NFT: Sources: >5 Yankees Coaches Have Tested Positive for COVID

Anando : 5/11/2021 4:34 pm
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At least 5 Yankees coaches have tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell ESPN
as some of you may remember  
Anando : 5/11/2021 4:35 pm : link
yanks are one of the teams in the MLB who surpassed the 85% mark in terms of players getting vaccinated.
thread about  
Jints in Carolina : 5/11/2021 4:36 pm : link
down below...but yours is saying 5 coaches have it
So these seem like possible  
JB_in_DC : 5/11/2021 4:41 pm : link
Breakthrough Cases?

Hope everyone involved has minimal/no symptoms and is back on the bench asap.
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Danny Kanell : 5/11/2021 4:43 pm : link
I just read all were vaccinated. Oh boy.
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k2tampa : 5/11/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15261030 Danny Kanell said:
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I just read all were vaccinated. Oh boy.


Variants?
when were they vaccinated  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/11/2021 4:52 pm : link
is an important question
According to Jon Heyman  
Josh in the City : 5/11/2021 4:52 pm : link
All were vaccinated which just makes this bizarre. If the efficacy of the vaccines are 95%, what are the odds that 5 vaccinated coaches all contracted Covid!? Must be like winning the lottery.
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Just speculating  
Bill L : 5/11/2021 4:55 pm : link
most cases in NYC right now are from a NYC-home-grown variant. I haven't heard how well the variant is susceptible to the vaccines. Most variants are susceptible but not to the same degree as the wild type.
RE: when were they vaccinated  
Danny Kanell : 5/11/2021 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15261040 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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is an important question


Sounds like they had the J&J a month ago.
It's one of two things  
JohnF : 5/11/2021 5:01 pm : link
Either the coaches somehow avoided getting the shots while being certified (not likely, but not impossible), or more likely, a variant, possibly the 3.1.351:

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However, the researchers found that B.1.351 accounted for 5.4% of breakthrough infections among people who had received both doses and just 0.7% of the infections among unvaccinated people. "This means that the [B.1.351] variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine's protection," Stern said.


How well Covid-19 vaccines work against variants
Three vaccines show promise against COVID variants
RE: It's one of two things  
Bill L : 5/11/2021 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15261055 JohnF said:
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Either the coaches somehow avoided getting the shots while being certified (not likely, but not impossible), or more likely, a variant, possibly the 3.1.351:



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However, the researchers found that B.1.351 accounted for 5.4% of breakthrough infections among people who had received both doses and just 0.7% of the infections among unvaccinated people. "This means that the [B.1.351] variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine's protection," Stern said.



How well Covid-19 vaccines work against variants
Three vaccines show promise against COVID variants


Possible. That's the most serious of the variants. But, it's pretty low prevalence in the US right now (~1% in the whole US)>
Hope they sequence  
jpkmets : 5/11/2021 5:07 pm : link
These viruses.
It’s  
mitch300 : 5/11/2021 5:25 pm : link
Also possible that the test is a false positive. My nephew works for the NFL and at first tested positive. Was retested and it came back negative. ( this was before vaccines.
I'm hearing it's just one coach  
BestFeature : 5/11/2021 5:33 pm : link
Imagine if some idiot reporter jumped the gun and will result in a bunch of people not getting vaccinated because he/she doesn't trust the vaccine. What a fucking moron.
Wow, not good for J&J  
ZogZerg : 5/11/2021 5:34 pm : link
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The latest I saw was that Nevin has tested positive,  
Mad Mike : 5/11/2021 5:42 pm : link
the others are pending. That's apparently from Boone within the last half hour or so.

If five of them really are positive (not just testing positive, but actually positive) despite being vaccinated, well, unless they got a bum batch, that would be very concerning for all of us.
I’m not surprised  
eric2425ny : 5/11/2021 5:47 pm : link
these types of viruses are like the common cold or flu. They just keep mutating and the vaccines eventually don’t work. The Spanish flu took like 2-3 years to fully dissipate. This will likely be the same way.
Only 1 positive as of now (Nevin)  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 5/11/2021 5:47 pm : link
Heyman is the worst
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Heyman/Rivera  
DanMetroMan : 5/11/2021 5:50 pm : link
should have issued full-on apologies. The rush to be first is part of reporting but a story like this? What's the upside? "Woah did you see Heyman reported Yankee coaches have Covid!" this isn't Mike Trout being traded.
I know nothing about baseball reporters  
BestFeature : 5/11/2021 5:52 pm : link
But whoever falsely jumped the gun might have blood on his hands if it causes people to lose trust in the vaccine. What an utter POS.
RE: I know nothing about baseball reporters  
jpkmets : 5/11/2021 5:58 pm : link
In comment 15261099 BestFeature said:
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But whoever falsely jumped the gun might have blood on his hands if it causes people to lose trust in the vaccine. What an utter POS.


Jon Heyman on Twitter. I thought this was a really cavalier way to treat a huge story. If it’s one coach and it’s J&J (65% effective at blocking the virus) that’s different than 5 coaches and Pfizer (>95 efficacy). The primary benefit of J&J is blocking serious effects. So if he’s asymptotic, that’s good news.
Heyman should be fired  
CMicks3110 : 5/11/2021 5:59 pm : link
He should know better
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/11/2021 6:04 pm : link
That is horrible journalism.
Michael Kay is quoting  
jpkmets : 5/11/2021 6:08 pm : link
Marley Rivera. So whether it ends up being right or not, that’s the story that’s going out there.
ESPN...  
JohnG in Albany : 5/11/2021 6:15 pm : link
Seemed to be indicating 5 coaches/staff.

Yes, I know ESPN is hardly a beacon.
RE: RE: I know nothing about baseball reporters  
k2tampa : 5/11/2021 6:55 pm : link
In comment 15261103 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15261099 BestFeature said:


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But whoever falsely jumped the gun might have blood on his hands if it causes people to lose trust in the vaccine. What an utter POS.



Jon Heyman on Twitter. I thought this was a really cavalier way to treat a huge story. If it’s one coach and it’s J&J (65% effective at blocking the virus) that’s different than 5 coaches and Pfizer (>95 efficacy). The primary benefit of J&J is blocking serious effects. So if he’s asymptotic, that’s good news.


One misconception on the different efficiencies is that when J&J was being tested at least three variants were active in places where trials were going on. Pfizer and Moderna only faced the original, which is what the vaccines were programmed for.
There's no confirmation that it was anyone but Nevin yet it looks like  
BestFeature : 5/11/2021 7:04 pm : link
“We have a few other staff, coaches that are still pending and we don’t have confirmation on but one, one coach,” Boone said. “Phil is tested positive and will definitely be out.”
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Any update on whether anyone but Nevin got this?  
BestFeature : 5/12/2021 10:00 am : link
Sounded like a reporter jumped the gun and freaked everyone out but Boone said only Nevin was confirmed.
Reggie Willets has it too  
Greg from LI : 5/12/2021 10:02 am : link
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Shit, sounds like 5 after all  
BestFeature : 5/12/2021 10:09 am : link
Is J&J garbage at actually preventing illness?

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We don't know enough about the situation to say, really  
NYerInMA : 5/12/2021 10:12 am : link
It's possible that Nevin and Willits got exposed to a massive amount of viral particles which overwhelmed the ability of the J&J vaccine to protect them, or they may have been exposed to a variant which the J&J vaccine is not as effective against. There's really no way to tell with the info available to us at this point.
In more positive Yankees news.....  
Greg from LI : 5/12/2021 11:57 am : link
Jasson Dominguez making his debut today. First AB, rips a double.

RE: Shit, sounds like 5 after all  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/12/2021 12:13 pm : link
In comment 15261871 BestFeature said:
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Is J&J garbage at actually preventing illness? Link - ( New Window )

66% effective preventing infection
85% effective preventing severe illness
100% effective preventing hospitalization or death
RE: RE: Shit, sounds like 5 after all  
BestFeature : 5/12/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15262057 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Is J&J garbage at actually preventing illness? Link - ( New Window )


66% effective preventing infection
85% effective preventing severe illness
100% effective preventing hospitalization or death


Thanks. I have Moderna anyway. It had better numbers but was tested at a different time.
The real world data for both mrna vaccines is largely  
bhill410 : 5/12/2021 9:08 pm : link
Consistent with the clinical trials fwiw.

Also JJ was only 72 in original trial but what makes it so important is that you don’t have those pesky deaths after getting it. So yea you may still get sick but it’s going to be more analogous to a regular case of flu in worst case scenarios.
Now it looks like 7 total…  
Chris in Philly : 5/13/2021 7:29 pm : link
Are we done demanding apologies yet?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/13/2021 7:38 pm : link
Again, if you get vaccinated, it doesn't mean you can't contract COVID. It just means you're odds of ending up in a hospital on a ventilator are the same as mine beating LeBron in a game of one on one.
The Torres thing makes no sense at all  
Bill L : 5/13/2021 8:37 pm : link
There’s something weird going on.
I'm worried about where this is going  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/13/2021 8:43 pm : link
Glyber already had COVID in January. Its my understanding that there is only a handful of cases on the planet of individuals being reinfected with COVID in less than 6 months even without a vax. The chances of Glyber and 6 coaches being infected WITH a vax are practically nil.

Either the tests were botched, or the vaccinations were botched. Whether MLB or the Yankees are responsible or not, this could get ugly.
RE: I'm worried about where this is going  
section125 : 5/13/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15263624 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Glyber already had COVID in January. Its my understanding that there is only a handful of cases on the planet of individuals being reinfected with COVID in less than 6 months even without a vax. The chances of Glyber and 6 coaches being infected WITH a vax are practically nil.

Either the tests were botched, or the vaccinations were botched. Whether MLB or the Yankees are responsible or not, this could get ugly.


You can get the flu with the flu shot. You can get covid with the covid shot. In both cases you have very reduced symptoms. That is the main purpose of the vaccine.

These shots are brand new. They rushed to get the main virus eliminated. They did not have time for variants which were really rare. I suspect when the boosters come out, the variants will be included.

But you will still be able to get the virus, just with minimal symptoms.
RE: RE: I'm worried about where this is going  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/13/2021 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15263656 section125 said:
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In comment 15263624 Ron from Ninerland said:


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Glyber already had COVID in January. Its my understanding that there is only a handful of cases on the planet of individuals being reinfected with COVID in less than 6 months even without a vax. The chances of Glyber and 6 coaches being infected WITH a vax are practically nil.

Either the tests were botched, or the vaccinations were botched. Whether MLB or the Yankees are responsible or not, this could get ugly.



You can get the flu with the flu shot. You can get covid with the covid shot. In both cases you have very reduced symptoms. That is the main purpose of the vaccine.

These shots are brand new. They rushed to get the main virus eliminated. They did not have time for variants which were really rare. I suspect when the boosters come out, the variants will be included.

But you will still be able to get the virus, just with minimal symptoms.
The efficacy of these vaccines has been confirmed with tens of millions of people around the world. 95% efficacy doesn't mean you have a 5% chance of getting the virus. It means you have a 5% probability as compared to individuals who are unvaccinated. So if in the United States an unvaccinated person has about a 4% chance of becoming infected ( actually I think its less ) then a vaccinated person has a .2% chance of becoming infected, variants and all. Granted J & J is not a good as Pfizer/Moderna but you're still talking a low number. The chances of 7 Yankees being among this low percentage, including one who already had COVID defies probability. Something is not right here.
My had the Pfizer vaccine and still tested positive 3 months  
jlukes : 5/13/2021 9:41 pm : link
Later after being around my brothers kids who tested positive

My mom had absolutely zero symptoms

Need to stop acting like all positive tests are equal. They’re not.

The vaccine did its job
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