1.) Villar 3B
2.) Lindor SS
3.) Conforto RF
4.) Alonso 1B
5.) Smith LF
6.) Pillar CF
7.) Peraza 2B
8.) Nido C
9.) Walker P
Mets going for 7th straight. We are running on fumes health wise with McNeil and Almora added to the pile. The Dark Knight returns. How will he be received? Game starts at 12:10. LFGM!
Would be really nice to add him to the 40 and DFA Tarpley or Zamora.
lol. Love that name for them. They have been key. Would be nice to get a two-game sweep with the injuries they have now. Hopefully Nimmo is at least back for Friday. DH this weekend at TB, so they need him. Can keep playing Pillar.
Would be nice to get a win today. Don’t wish Harvey any ill-will but hope we can knock him around a bit. He’s been OK, but his stuff is really hittable. Hopefully our 2-5 hitters can take him deep a few times.
100%. I was a little iffy on at last 1 of them but very thankful for the extra depth now. Almora too for that matter.
Dr. D --
How you been ? I haven't seen you posting in a while. Did you catch that Allman-Betts Band concert down your way?? They played 'Shakedown Street' at our show here at the Firefly Distillery.
That was a great win vs the O's last night. Keep Mazieka warm on the bench this afternoon....In Case of Emergency, Break Glass.
Give Matt Harvey a warm welcome. Then score a few runs for Walker.
Give me guys like that any day.
Glad Mets fans showed Harvey some love.
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Dr. D --
How you been ? I haven't seen you posting in a while. Did you catch that Allman-Betts Band concert down your way?? They played 'Shakedown Street' at our show here at the Firefly Distillery.
That was a great win vs the O's last night. Keep Mazieka warm on the bench this afternoon....In Case of Emergency, Break Glass.
Give Matt Harvey a warm welcome. Then score a few runs for Walker.
Hey Named Later, I'm great. How you doing?
Unfortunately, after I started that Allman Betts thread I discovered the amphitheather was only selling minimum of 4 seats together bc of covid. I don't know 3 others locally that would want to go (most of my friends where I live now are younger, diff tastes..). Wife's not an Allman's fan, hated Widespread Panic show about 10 yrs ago (she's younger and doesn't like guitar jams).
I like to buy good seats (don't see great) and might've considered buying 2 tx, but not 3-4 at those $.
Sorry, prolly TMI.
Anywho, have great day! LFGM!
My biggest frustration with Alderson's first stint was how even the depth pickups never worked out (Mayberry, De Aza, Vargas etc). Between Pillar, Villar, Loup, Almora, Walker it looks like this year he made up for it.
+1 DRS, solid UZR/150 and he's passed the eye ball test.
btw ironically Nimmo's defensive numbers are the reverse (+2 OAA, 0 drs, negative uzr/150) - but he too has passed the eye ball test.
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+1 DRS, solid UZR/150 and he's passed the eye ball test.
btw ironically Nimmo's defensive numbers are the reverse (+2 OAA, 0 drs, negative uzr/150) - but he too has passed the eye ball test.
C'mon Eric, that's not "plus" in CF. Passable is more like it. 24 CF's are in the plus in terms of OAA, 37 are "not" in the negative.
Isn't Tarpley on the 40 man? No hesitation to lose him whatsoever
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Mets do not have any additional OF's or IF on their 40 man roster so should there be an injury to either I'm not sure what they do? Could we see... Wilfredo Tovar in Queens? (yes, he's back).
Isn't Tarpley on the 40 man? No hesitation to lose him whatsoever
He is, and he's clearly the most obvious casualty. Looking at the Mets 40 man, Tarpley is likely a goner very soon. Any OF/IF needs will need a player removed and added to the 40. Fargas, Drury, Tovar etc. They also could release Betances (linked is the 40 man)
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Yup, great to see indeed!
Dom was their best hitter last year IMO (not going to argue between him and Conforto). Getting him going is key. He was hot in spring training then they missed a lot of game time with the Nationals series. I think that really effected a lot of the bats early.
Some guys age well, that's a great start
I'd take him back when the DBacks are out of it. Think they will take Kilome for him?
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Cabrera .290/.398/.486, +4 DRS at 3b...he's turning 36! What a career.
Some guys age well, that's a great start
Career 192 homers (should hit 200), 90 steals (doubt he steals 10 more but anything is possible), 1723 hits (2000 very possible). That's a very nice career under the radar.
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Cabrera .290/.398/.486, +4 DRS at 3b...he's turning 36! What a career.
I'd take him back when the DBacks are out of it. Think they will take Kilome for him?
Considering Kilome cleared waivers I think his trade value is close to zero... well it technically IS zero
One of my off-season targets
"Not exactly an exciting option but what about Bryan Reynolds? Career 122 wRC+ against righties. +3 DRS career in CF, + defensive CO for his career https://fangraphs.com/players/bryan-reynolds/19326/stats?position=OF #Mets"
140 wRC+ this year! No indication he was actually available but he's good. I'm also happy to hear the Mets looked into Means, I do suspect that was Porter however.
I love GKR but Gary Cohen called Daniel Murphy a "net negative". Kevin Pillar is an elite CF? On what planet? Why did he settle for a 4th OF role with the Mets then? C'mon.
Yep I was going to say have Barnes pitch 8th and Smith, Hunter, or Gsellman get the 9th
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Yep I was going to say have Barnes pitch 8th and Smith, Hunter, or Gsellman get the 9th
I think Hunter may be held back for Saturday. Hunter/Lucchesi 2.0 seems to be the plan. There were murmurs that Szapucki might make the start but that no longer seems to be the case.
So here's a quick comp of Walker (6 starts prior to today) vs. Wheeler (7 starts) so far this year:
K/9 - 9.26 vs. 9.25 (tie)
BB/9 - 3.97 vs. 2.27 (edge Wheeler)
HR/9 - .25 vs. .76 (edge Walker)
ERA - 2.38 vs. 2.83 (edge Walker)
FIP - 2.84 vs. 3.02 (edge Walker)
Avg. FB Velocity - 94.6mph vs. 97.6mph (edge Wheeler)
Avg. Exit Velocity - 89.3mph vs. 86.7 mpg (edge Wheeler)
Hard Hit % - 42% vs. 32% (edge Wheeler)
So Wheeler has given up more homers but on average weaker overall contact. Also about 10% more groundballs than Walker.
Walker has walked more batters, and given up more consistent hard contact, but also given up fewer homers (at a rate well below his career averages). Perhaps also gotten a little luckier than Wheeler having a .220 babip against.
If I had to pick a guy to start a game tomorrow it would still 100% be Wheeler, but if I was building a team for the next few years I'd be tempted to take the guy making a lot less money. Fingers crossed Walker keeps this comparison close and continues to keep the ball in the ballpark, would certainly go a long way towards letting go of Wilponzis not resigning Wheeler.
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like to see guys like Smith and Barnes get some work in today.
Yep I was going to say have Barnes pitch 8th and Smith, Hunter, or Gsellman get the 9th
I think Hunter may be held back for Saturday. Hunter/Lucchesi 2.0 seems to be the plan. There were murmurs that Szapucki might make the start but that no longer seems to be the case.
Okay. I figured with Sean Reid-Foley around they might use Hunter more in later innings where you could keep guys rested as he can throw 2 innings.
He and Ron just talked at length about the defensive metrics not being kind to Pillar and it not matching up to their views of him seeing him live right after he made another nice catch in the gap.
I agree with you that throwing the term "elite" around is silly but I don't know how anyone could watch what he's done the last 10 days or so and not say he's playing a good CF. He has taken away multiple in hits in multiple games.
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OAA nor DRS agree with him.. at all. Gary hasn't seen even average CF play since... Juan Lagares? So yeah maybe compared to Nimmo, Austin Jackson, Conforto, Cespedes and whomever else they have run out there in CF...
He and Ron just talked at length about the defensive metrics not being kind to Pillar and it not matching up to their views of him seeing him live right after he made another nice catch in the gap.
I agree with you that throwing the term "elite" around is silly but I don't know how anyone could watch what he's done the last 10 days or so and not say he's playing a good CF. He has taken away multiple in hits in multiple games.
I'm not interested in arguing semantics but generally speaking "elite" in sports means cream of the crop not "solid" and Pillar has been solid. Not really going to go into any discussion where the metrics are unfair to Pillar but lineup on other "great" CF's like Buxton and Kiermier. Kiermier 2019+2020 22 OAA in CF, Byron Buxton +15.
"Gets the job done" is backed up by the metrics. Solid in CF so far this season. Elite defensive players (whether you love the metrics are not)... that shows up in the numbers.
Who is starting this weekend? I saw Peterson, Lucchesi, and TBD. I agree they go Hunter/Lucchesi, but it was my impression they had another game to scrap together.
Maybe Mets haven't announced and TBD may just be skipping 5th starter because of off day.
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it could still be SRF over Hunter (SRF has been pretty impressive) but one of the writers (I think DiComo) said it "sounded like" they would run back the Hunter/Lucchesi combo and not call someone up (like Szapucki)
Who is starting this weekend? I saw Peterson, Lucchesi, and TBD. I agree they go Hunter/Lucchesi, but it was my impression they had another game to scrap together.
Maybe Mets haven't announced and TBD may just be skipping 5th starter because of off day.
Peterson, TBD, Stroman. So the assumption is Saturday will be Hunter/Lucchesi. SRF apparently isn't stretched out enough to make a traditional start and Szapucki is the only other SP on the 40.
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Mets won't need to fill deGrom's spot in the rotation until their series in Atlanta next week thanks to this week's off days.
Tomorrow, home: Walker
Friday @ Rays: Peterson
Saturday: TBD
Sunday: Stroman
So here's a quick comp of Walker (6 starts prior to today) vs. Wheeler (7 starts) so far this year:
K/9 - 9.26 vs. 9.25 (tie)
BB/9 - 3.97 vs. 2.27 (edge Wheeler)
HR/9 - .25 vs. .76 (edge Walker)
ERA - 2.38 vs. 2.83 (edge Walker)
FIP - 2.84 vs. 3.02 (edge Walker)
Avg. FB Velocity - 94.6mph vs. 97.6mph (edge Wheeler)
Avg. Exit Velocity - 89.3mph vs. 86.7 mpg (edge Wheeler)
Hard Hit % - 42% vs. 32% (edge Wheeler)
Eric --
Those are very interesting stats. But I'd be curious as to who the competition was...I think Wheeler has faced the Braves a few times in recent starts.
They still average out to be quite close.
team looks impressive considering all the injuries.
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Matt Harvey: "Obviously, there have been so many ups and downs here at this ballpark and with this organization that I didn't really know what to expect. And what the fans gave me out there was pretty incredible. I was holding back tears. I'm not going to lie about that."
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Matt Harvey: "Obviously, there have been so many ups and downs here at this ballpark and with this organization that I didn't really know what to expect. And what the fans gave me out there was pretty incredible. I was holding back tears. I'm not going to lie about that."
I'm glad the fans treated him well and that he appreciated it.
I'd prefer pushing Stroman to Monday vs. Atl, and going Puck or something against TB on Sunday
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Matt Harvey: "Obviously, there have been so many ups and downs here at this ballpark and with this organization that I didn't really know what to expect. And what the fans gave me out there was pretty incredible. I was holding back tears. I'm not going to lie about that."
Good for Matt. I'm glad the Fans showed him some love today. Good that he was able to toe the slab at Citi one more time. I hope he does much better when he faces ATL, PHI and WAS.
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Matt Harvey: "Obviously, there have been so many ups and downs here at this ballpark and with this organization that I didn't really know what to expect. And what the fans gave me out there was pretty incredible. I was holding back tears. I'm not going to lie about that."
Really happy to hear that. Thanks for sharing that quote. I had a hearing at 3:30 so I missed Smith's 9th and the post-game. But Harvey gave his absolute all for this team.
2012-2013 and 2015 was event pitching -- bigger than deGrom's starts now because 1) We'd sucked for so long and 2) Harvey is more human than deGrom because of deGrom's beyond excellence.
That is NOT a knock on Jake - from the 2015 post-games he's mischievious and a cool cat (loved when he used the autolower on Murphy's chair when he was in his pressers and screwing with his gatorade) -- it's just that Harvey was (all too -- at times) human, so it was more of a crazy ride from game to game.
I'm glad he felt the love. He deserves it.
What a signing Walker was. Really a coup if he is a facsimile of this for the bulk of the year.
Some really good depth as others have said. That's part of the place of not having to watch payroll so closely is paying off.
Next CBA may include trading draft choices in player trades -- NBA style. That could completely change the equation for rich teams -- use IFA to stock the farm and trading picks for young stars nearing arbitration.
Anyway, great homestand!
Interesting to hear that Mets "went away from the scouting report" that Harvey had on the team from the last couple of weeks (just catching up on the presser).
Rosario had the walk-off hit/rbi in that game.
He and Gimenez are both hitting sub .200. Hopefully they can turn it around.
What stands out about that is that 10 of those runs saved are credited to being due to shifting. Which is tied for the 2nd most in baseball with Milwaukee, and behind only the LAD who have 11 runs saved from shifting.
the rest of the defensive categories are all pretty much neutral within a range of +2 to -1. They are middle of the pack in errors (t for 12th most with 23). Bottom 1/3 in out of zone plays. And their zone ratings are actually mostly poor. So shifting is definitely something to keep an eye on over the course of the season. Have the NYM developed some kind of competitive advantage or is it a fluke?
Another thing that stands out is that really the only position that has graded out negatively is 3b (Guillorme surprisingly is the worst at -3, Villar and JDD are both -2). Those 3 players account for all but 1 of the negative DRS across the position players. With average defense at 3b the team might have top 5-10 defense overall almost across the board.
Also interesting is that Lindor is currently neutral (0), so the positive runs saved are from some somewhat unlikely sources. Pillar is +3 in the OF, Nido is +2, Alonso is +2, and McNeil is +2. For all the talk about no DH hurting the NYM Alonso (+2) and Smith (0) have appeared to play some very solid defense.
Last interesting thing is basically to kind of throw cold water on everything I just said as a reminder to take all the defensive metrics with a grain of salt. Linked below is a blog post I hadn't seen from SIS a couple months ago about some changes that transpired in their DRS because of a video glitch from previously only having access to broadcast feeds in certain stadiums, which created artificial delays in their video evaluations of certain players as a result of not having feeds that showed the player's true reactions in full frame over an entire play. Good reminder that even well intentioned and well informed stats from video can still have issues. What's interesting is that for some reason this glitch hit the NYM more than any other team and upon retroactively correcting it the Mets gained 52 runs saved (they went from -86 to -34 since 2019). And Amed Rosario was tied for the most runs "gained" going from a -10 to a -3. Which is ironic because over the last few years there were definitely a bunch of comments about how strange it was that he always graded so poorly at SS.
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Would certainly explain his sudden and drastic improvement this year.