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NGT: Steelers LB mad at Tebow playing "before Kaepernick"

Toth029 : 5/12/2021 11:05 am
And by playing, getting a camp tryout to see if he makes the team as a TE.

I mean, players like Bush care more about Tebow putting on his football cleats again and trying out (at a new position) than he does about his rapist of a QB. Why not be upset about the real pieces of shit in the league like Deshaun Watson, Tyreke Hill, Kareem Hunt, etc. Kaep doesn't want to play anyway but they don't want to accept the truth. Imagine how shakingy mad Bush would have been if Tebow publicized his tryout like Kaep wanted to do.
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Tebow is simply getting a chance with JAX because  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 8:33 am : link
of his relationship with Urban Meyer.

And since JAX is very weak at the TE position, Meyer respects the guy and wants types like that in his new locker room, there isn't any reason not to offer the favor.

Polarizing is not a word that many would connect to Tim Tebow, and certainly not many in Florida...
RE: Such blind allegiance.  
Brown_Hornet : 5/14/2021 8:53 am : link
In comment 15262448 TrustTheProcess said:
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For Kap. Idk why everything has to be a race thing. So sick of reading it.
So, taking a stand against racism isn't supposed to be about racism?

I have no allegiance for CK, but I'm not pretending I didn't watch 50% of the country turn on him for silently protesting, by himself...because a "news" network told them that CK hated America. (in so many words)

For those sick of "race issues." I don't know what to say. The CK issue is about race. If you don't wish to talk about race, "don't start nothing won't be nothing."
And I don't know what to say when I read comments like this...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 9:28 am : link

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..."people couldn't stand that he was a devout Christian."
Brown_Hornet : 8:09 am : link : reply
...I believe that this is a manufactured complaint by the same people that are afraid of brown people.

People still don't understand this  
pjcas18 : 5/14/2021 9:30 am : link
after all this time and it's because they don't want to understand, they thrive on victimhood.

Yes, of course Kaepernick kneeled to protest oppression (though in the beginning he didn't articulate well and confused a lot of people even seemingly himself at times with what he was protesting and he made things worse by antagonizing people further with pig socks, che guevara t-shirts and praising Fidel Castro - who you would be hard pressed to find a bigger example of modern day oppression right up until his death).

Many people were offended by his actions or found them disrespectful not because the people are racist or felt like there was no racism or police brutality, but because they view the freedom we have in America, to sit in a packed stadium and watch millionaire athletes play a game was earned on the backs, lives and limbs of people who fought for that flag and that anthem. Not everyone was offended, but many people were. Many customers of NFL teams.

He is out of a job today *mostly* because he was not a good enough QB for a team to sign him and deal with the distractions of his activism.

He himself said in 2016 when this whole thing started if he loses his endorsements and his job because of it he knows he's doing the right thing. Football was not the most important thing to him and he made a choice. He, Kaepernick chose activism over football

If that was Patrick Mahomes kneeling, he'd still be employed today. If he wanted to be.

Tim Tebow getting a tryout with a 90-man roster at TE by his college coach is completely disconnected from Kaepernick not being in the NFL. There is literally zero connection other than one in people's minds who think everything is racial or racially notivated.

Race has zero, nothing, nada to do with Tebow getting a tryout and Kaepernick not being in the NFL today.

If you want another example.

If Deshaun Watson was Tim Tebow (in talent and skin color) he wouldn't be on an NFL roster today. Is that racism? Against Tebow? Against white people? No, it's because he's a shitty quarterback and simply 20+ allegations of sexual assault against a shitty quarterback is more than teams are willing to withstand relative to his talent. But Watson is a good quarterback, so teams will tolerate more and give him more of a chance to get in front of this - similar to how the Steelers dealt with Roethlisberger and his legal issues.

NFL talent trumps all until talent and distraction intersect - then people are no longer worth it - like Kaepernick became.

it's that simple. Racism? No. it's not racism, though that's where some people go first (and end there in many cases)
pj...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/14/2021 9:43 am : link
...much of what you said I agree with...

" they view the freedom we have in America, to sit in a packed stadium and watch millionaire athletes play a game was earned on the backs, lives and limbs of people who fought for that flag and that anthem. Not everyone was offended, but many people were. Many customers of NFL teams."

Nobody was offended until they were told to be.

Racism is real. Sorry you don't believe this...
RE: pj...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15263921 Brown_Hornet said:
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...much of what you said I agree with...

" they view the freedom we have in America, to sit in a packed stadium and watch millionaire athletes play a game was earned on the backs, lives and limbs of people who fought for that flag and that anthem. Not everyone was offended, but many people were. Many customers of NFL teams."

Nobody was offended until they were told to be.



Nobody was offended...until they were told be?

Two things that are incorrect in just one very small sentence.

Btw - Who told them to be offended?
RE: pj...  
pjcas18 : 5/14/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15263921 Brown_Hornet said:
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...much of what you said I agree with...

" they view the freedom we have in America, to sit in a packed stadium and watch millionaire athletes play a game was earned on the backs, lives and limbs of people who fought for that flag and that anthem. Not everyone was offended, but many people were. Many customers of NFL teams."

Nobody was offended until they were told to be.

Racism is real. Sorry you don't believe this...


I believe racism is real. But I also don't believe it's the reason for everything that happens. Stop pretending you know everyone and their background and their experience.

My father is a Vietnam Veteran, he was offended the second he saw it/read about it. No one told him to be offended by anything. Some veterans or active military are not offended by it, some of the policemen and women aren't offended by it, some are. This is America, everyone is different and has a right to be different. and people have a right to make choices.

To your second point, no one believed systemic racism is involved in every single aspect of our society or the reason why everything happens until they were told to believe it.

we can all use tropes and paint with a broad brush and it doesn't change the facts about Kaepernick.
A lot of people  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:03 am : link
Only support something or detest something once the "leaders" they look up to voice their own opinion. People not thinking for themselves is everywhere.
Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 10:10 am : link
to be led by a notable face or a voice. That doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.
RE: Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15263957 Jimmy Googs said:
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to be led by a notable face or a voice. That doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.


From all of the crap I see on social media (mostly political) not thinking for one's self is more than likely what I see, simply because if and when the situation gets reversed the people (both sides) immediately pivot with their affiliation. I'm not saying you don't think for yourself, but when I see blatant (at least what I feel is blatant) ignoring of problems that are in the same ballpark as issues that are being criticized I immediately think of the sheep analogy.

If I choose to criticize, I think it's a good idea to flip the situation as if something I believe in was guilty of what I have criticized to see how I feel about that. Now, I don't always do that, unfortunately.
pj, again...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/14/2021 10:21 am : link
...we agree on most of what you say.

And I did, paint with broad strokes regarding those who were offended. That was unfair.

As did you with regards to people like me somehow thinking that we that believe racism is the reason for everything that happens.

This is an issue that was all about racial justice.

I have never understood how standing for the anthem is associated with the military or how not standing is somehow disrespectful. (I stand with my hand on my heart and recite as the anthem is played...)

But, that is anectdotal and irrelevant.

I think that we agree on more than we disagree on here...
...and for those reasons, I'm out.


Reading this discussion I am reminded of a recent tweet  
Big Al : 5/14/2021 10:23 am : link
“ What's the scientific basis for believing the average person is capable of "following the science"? Anecdotally, all evidence and life experience suggests it is an absurdity.

But we humans can follow bullshit like we were born to it.”

I see a lot of this here and it comes from both side although each side will only see it in the other. On reading these discussions, we need to sort the rational from the bullshit for people on your side as well as the other side.
RE: Reading this discussion I am reminded of a recent tweet  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:27 am : link
In comment 15263974 Big Al said:
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“ What's the scientific basis for believing the average person is capable of "following the science"? Anecdotally, all evidence and life experience suggests it is an absurdity.

But we humans can follow bullshit like we were born to it.”

I see a lot of this here and it comes from both side although each side will only see it in the other. On reading these discussions, [b]we need to sort the rational from the bullshit for people on your side as well as the other side.[b]


I think this is where a lot of conversation goes wrong. As you said, it's easier and more comfortable to call out those on the other side (I'm not sure humans are good with taking sides) than it is to call out our own. I'm guilty too, and have admitted to this on this forum.
damn messed up my  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:28 am : link
bold code!
RE: RE: Reading this discussion I am reminded of a recent tweet  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15263980 crick n NC said:
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In comment 15263974 Big Al said:


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“ What's the scientific basis for believing the average person is capable of "following the science"? Anecdotally, all evidence and life experience suggests it is an absurdity.

But we humans can follow bullshit like we were born to it.”

I see a lot of this here and it comes from both side although each side will only see it in the other. On reading these discussions, we need to sort the rational from the bullshit for people on your side as well as the other side.



I think this is where a lot of conversation goes wrong. As you said, it's easier and more comfortable to call out those on the other side (I'm not sure humans are good with taking sides) than it is to call out our own. I'm guilty too, and have admitted to this on this forum.
The bullshit  
pjcas18 : 5/14/2021 10:34 am : link
asymmetry principle aka Brandolini's Law - is a real thing IMO.

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"The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than to produce it"
RE: RE: Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15263965 crick n NC said:
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In comment 15263957 Jimmy Googs said:


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to be led by a notable face or a voice. That doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.



From all of the crap I see on social media (mostly political) not thinking for one's self is more than likely what I see, simply because if and when the situation gets reversed the people (both sides) immediately pivot with their affiliation. I'm not saying you don't think for yourself, but when I see blatant (at least what I feel is blatant) ignoring of problems that are in the same ballpark as issues that are being criticized I immediately think of the sheep analogy.

If I choose to criticize, I think it's a good idea to flip the situation as if something I believe in was guilty of what I have criticized to see how I feel about that. Now, I don't always do that, unfortunately.


Not seeing the connection of this to your previous post about leaders that I replied to. But nevertheless, if you are hanging out on social media to form your views of how many people are not thinking for themselves, then I am not surprised at your conclusions.

Hell, you don't even have to leave BBI if you are looking for sheep...
RE: RE: pj...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 10:41 am : link
In comment 15263938 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15263921 Brown_Hornet said:


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...much of what you said I agree with...

" they view the freedom we have in America, to sit in a packed stadium and watch millionaire athletes play a game was earned on the backs, lives and limbs of people who fought for that flag and that anthem. Not everyone was offended, but many people were. Many customers of NFL teams."

Nobody was offended until they were told to be.





Nobody was offended...until they were told be?

Two things that are incorrect in just one very small sentence.

Btw - Who told them to be offended?


No response here Brown Hornet?
A thing I have found on FB  
Big Al : 5/14/2021 10:43 am : link
where I sometimes put political comments is that people often have no tolerance unless you are in total agreement. I generally try to look at each issue and sometimes strongly criticize “my” side. This is often met with hostility from both sides. It is never good enough for the other side unless I I totally agree with them and has resulted in unfriendling from some on “my” side for departing the party line.

You see that here and recognize who is willing to rationally discuss things and those who just follow the bullshit that they have been fed.
RE: RE: RE: Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:46 am : link
In comment 15263998 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15263965 crick n NC said:


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In comment 15263957 Jimmy Googs said:


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to be led by a notable face or a voice. That doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.



From all of the crap I see on social media (mostly political) not thinking for one's self is more than likely what I see, simply because if and when the situation gets reversed the people (both sides) immediately pivot with their affiliation. I'm not saying you don't think for yourself, but when I see blatant (at least what I feel is blatant) ignoring of problems that are in the same ballpark as issues that are being criticized I immediately think of the sheep analogy.

If I choose to criticize, I think it's a good idea to flip the situation as if something I believe in was guilty of what I have criticized to see how I feel about that. Now, I don't always do that, unfortunately.



Not seeing the connection of this to your previous post about leaders that I replied to. But nevertheless, if you are hanging out on social media to form your views of how many people are not thinking for themselves, then I am not surprised at your conclusions.

Hell, you don't even have to leave BBI if you are looking for sheep...


The connection I was trying to make was about people being told to be offended. You seemed to refute that, and I think that is something that is quite real. A leader can persuade people quite easily. I also never said I was hanging on social media looking for people who do not think for themselves.

RE: A thing I have found on FB  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15264005 Big Al said:
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where I sometimes put political comments is that people often have no tolerance unless you are in total agreement. I generally try to look at each issue and sometimes strongly criticize “my” side. This is often met with hostility from both sides. It is never good enough for the other side unless I I totally agree with them and has resulted in unfriendling from some on “my” side for departing the party line.

You see that here and recognize who is willing to rationally discuss things and those who just follow the bullshit that they have been fed.


If both sides are mad at you, that can be a good thing!
RE: A thing I have found on FB  
Brown_Hornet : 5/14/2021 10:59 am : link
In comment 15264005 Big Al said:
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where I sometimes put political comments is that people often have no tolerance unless you are in total agreement. I generally try to look at each issue and sometimes strongly criticize “my” side. This is often met with hostility from both sides. It is never good enough for the other side unless I I totally agree with them and has resulted in unfriendling from some on “my” side for departing the party line.

You see that here and recognize who is willing to rationally discuss things and those who just follow the bullshit that they have been fed.
+1
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 11:02 am : link
In comment 15264009 crick n NC said:
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Not seeing the connection of this to your previous post about leaders that I replied to. But nevertheless, if you are hanging out on social media to form your views of how many people are not thinking for themselves, then I am not surprised at your conclusions.

Hell, you don't even have to leave BBI if you are looking for sheep...



The connection I was trying to make was about people being told to be offended. You seemed to refute that, and I think that is something that is quite real. A leader can persuade people quite easily. I also never said I was hanging on social media looking for people who do not think for themselves.


Now you are all over the board with this. I didn't refute that at all.

I said very clearly its not unusual for causes to be led by a notable face or voice, and that doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.

And yes, leaders can have a persuasive quality to how they speak/act but again that doesn't mean the masses still don't make independent judgments as to where they fall on issues.

The social media comment is where you pointed to specifically noting this behavior. So my response was to only that.
RE: A thing I have found on FB  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 11:05 am : link
In comment 15264005 Big Al said:
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where I sometimes put political comments is that people often have no tolerance unless you are in total agreement. I generally try to look at each issue and sometimes strongly criticize “my” side. This is often met with hostility from both sides. It is never good enough for the other side unless I I totally agree with them and has resulted in unfriendling from some on “my” side for departing the party line.

You see that here and recognize who is willing to rationally discuss things and those who just follow the bullshit that they have been fed.
Funny isn't it? I run into this all the time, kind of like I do on this site. I actually change my mind, and look at each position as it's own, If you ALWAYS agree and defend "your" side on everything, you lose all credibility with me. It can't be the truth.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Not unusual for causes in the US or around the world  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 11:14 am : link
In comment 15264025 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15264009 crick n NC said:


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Not seeing the connection of this to your previous post about leaders that I replied to. But nevertheless, if you are hanging out on social media to form your views of how many people are not thinking for themselves, then I am not surprised at your conclusions.

Hell, you don't even have to leave BBI if you are looking for sheep...



The connection I was trying to make was about people being told to be offended. You seemed to refute that, and I think that is something that is quite real. A leader can persuade people quite easily. I also never said I was hanging on social media looking for people who do not think for themselves.




Now you are all over the board with this. I didn't refute that at all.

I said very clearly its not unusual for causes to be led by a notable face or voice, and that doesn't mean people aren't thinking for themselves in whether they want to support it or not.

And yes, leaders can have a persuasive quality to how they speak/act but again that doesn't mean the masses still don't make independent judgments as to where they fall on issues.

The social media comment is where you pointed to specifically noting this behavior. So my response was to only that.


I don't agree that I'm "all over the board with this" . My apologies that I misread your message, I thought you were refuting that people are susceptible to being told how to think.
No  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 11:30 am : link
people are indeed susceptible to being told how to think in their everyday lives (down to the very laundry detergent they may buy at the supermarket).

But that doesn't mean they still don't ultimately think for themselves in choosing what they support or not.
RE: No  
crick n NC : 5/14/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15264054 Jimmy Googs said:
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people are indeed susceptible to being told how to think in their everyday lives (down to the very laundry detergent they may buy at the supermarket).

But that doesn't mean they still don't ultimately think for themselves in choosing what they support or not.


You're right, We can't prove if someone is thinking for themselves or not.
I don't know it should be doubted  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 11:41 am : link
unless you know all of them and their normal behaviors.
RE: No  
Big Al : 5/14/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15264054 Jimmy Googs said:
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people are indeed susceptible to being told how to think in their everyday lives (down to the very laundry detergent they may buy at the supermarket).

But that doesn't mean they still don't ultimately think for themselves in choosing what they support or not.
In regard to your second paragraph, it depends on the individual and how you define “think for themselves”. Some think for themselves to accept whatever they hear for who they trust. The extreme is being part of a cult where they thought for themselves to join.
This thread is talking about race  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2021 12:13 pm : link
should probably be deleted too right?

Unreal.
deleting the CTE thread  
ron mexico : 5/14/2021 12:18 pm : link
and letting this one go is bullshit
RE: deleting the CTE thread  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2021 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15264096 ron mexico said:
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and letting this one go is bullshit


It’s absolutely ridiculous.
RE: RE: No  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15264065 Big Al said:
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In comment 15264054 Jimmy Googs said:


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people are indeed susceptible to being told how to think in their everyday lives (down to the very laundry detergent they may buy at the supermarket).

But that doesn't mean they still don't ultimately think for themselves in choosing what they support or not.

In regard to your second paragraph, it depends on the individual and how you define “think for themselves”. Some think for themselves to accept whatever they hear for who they trust. The extreme is being part of a cult where they thought for themselves to join.


Agree but extreme cult behavior isn't the spirit of what is being discussed. Nor is it compelling to extrapolate over a larger mass of a people...
Is it possible  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 1:11 pm : link
There are people that are adamant about not being a racist but actually are a racist?

Is it also possible that there are people that adamantly believes someone else is a racist and that they actually are not racist?

You can be wrong both ways. That is the truth. Crazy world right now. We need find ways to compromise and see each others truths or this American experiment is going to go to hell.

It's on the way there.
RE: Is it possible  
Big Al : 5/14/2021 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15264150 Thegratefulhead said:
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There are people that are adamant about not being a racist but actually are a racist?

Is it also possible that there are people that adamantly believes someone else is a racist and that they actually are not racist?

You can be wrong both ways. That is the truth. Crazy world right now. We need find ways to compromise and see each others truths or this American experiment is going to go to hell.

It's on the way there.
Young people are brought up and taught things and some things of a prejudiced nature. Hard to totally shake what you are taught in your early years. That is why I cringe when I see children in political demonstrations no matter the point of view. However I tend to define racist more in the real life actions of people rather than drawing conclusions on your impressions of what they say. Hard to do this on a forum site unless it is glaring. By the way, Huck Finn is a great example of that if you are still allowed to read that.
RE: Is it possible  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15264150 Thegratefulhead said:
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There are people that are adamant about not being a racist but actually are a racist?

Is it also possible that there are people that adamantly believes someone else is a racist and that they actually are not racist?

You can be wrong both ways. That is the truth. Crazy world right now. We need find ways to compromise and see each others truths or this American experiment is going to go to hell.

It's on the way there.


American experiment?

I think the republic will survive...
RE: RE: Is it possible  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15264174 Big Al said:
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In comment 15264150 Thegratefulhead said:


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There are people that are adamant about not being a racist but actually are a racist?

Is it also possible that there are people that adamantly believes someone else is a racist and that they actually are not racist?

You can be wrong both ways. That is the truth. Crazy world right now. We need find ways to compromise and see each others truths or this American experiment is going to go to hell.

It's on the way there.

Young people are brought up and taught things and some things of a prejudiced nature. Hard to totally shake what you are taught in your early years. That is why I cringe when I see children in political demonstrations no matter the point of view. However I tend to define racist more in the real life actions of people rather than drawing conclusions on your impressions of what they say. Hard to do this on a forum site unless it is glaring. By the way, Huck Finn is a great example of that if you are still allowed to read that.
My daughter is 16 and has done some political activism of her own accord. Her and her friends have marched on behalf of a few different issues. We support her. We felt trying to stop her would put us at odds. We respect her views even when they differ from our own. I am over 50 it makes sense we do not agree on everything. I am proud of her.



All of these platitudes about racism and social media  
eclipz928 : 5/14/2021 2:14 pm : link
aren't necessary - it's very simple. Tebow is getting another shot in the NFL because of his connections with Meyer. Period.

The comparisons to Kaepernick are natural because both he and Tebow are polarizing people (for whatever reasons), yet Tebow has now been signed by 3 other teams since being drafted by the Broncos, and Kaepernick has been signed by no other team.

If someone wants to argue that it's justifiable for Kaepernick to not have any interest from NFL teams because of his lack of talent, that person would have the most credibility to make that case if they also have the stance that police brutality against black people is a real issue in this country. Honestly, I don't know if that person even exists on BBI.

That's not to say that anyone who doesn't think police brutality is an issue should be discredited outright, but any conversation about Kaepernick that doesn't start with a personal opinion on that specific subject is a disingenuous one.
RE: RE: Is it possible  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15264186 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15264150 Thegratefulhead said:


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There are people that are adamant about not being a racist but actually are a racist?

Is it also possible that there are people that adamantly believes someone else is a racist and that they actually are not racist?

You can be wrong both ways. That is the truth. Crazy world right now. We need find ways to compromise and see each others truths or this American experiment is going to go to hell.

It's on the way there.



American experiment?

I think the republic will survive...
I am not so sure. The Romans likely thought that too and they were around longer than us. I do not believe it a forgone conclusion that the Republic stands. We have seen critical fracturing of one the bedrocks of a Republic as of late.

No, I will not be specific. Not here.
RE: RE: RE: Is it possible  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15264195 Thegratefulhead said:
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My daughter is 16 and has done some political activism of her own accord. Her and her friends have marched on behalf of a few different issues. We support her. We felt trying to stop her would put us at odds. We respect her views even when they differ from our own. I am over 50 it makes sense we do not agree on everything. I am proud of her.




Gratefulhead - I could have written nearly the exact the same thing as to our household. :-)
RE: All of these platitudes about racism and social media  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15264198 eclipz928 said:
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aren't necessary - it's very simple. Tebow is getting another shot in the NFL because of his connections with Meyer. Period.


I agree, and said earlier in the thread. T
As did I  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 2:22 pm : link
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That's great that we agree on that.  
eclipz928 : 5/14/2021 2:32 pm : link
Any thoughts about the Kaepernick part (being that this thread stopped being about Tebow from post #1)?
RE: That's great that we agree on that.  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2021 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15264219 eclipz928 said:
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Any thoughts about the Kaepernick part (being that this thread stopped being about Tebow from post #1)?


what part?
I think we been doing a good job  
Big Al : 5/14/2021 2:42 pm : link
despite all our “platitudes” in keeping the discussion away from highly charged possibly related issues but responding to certain comments very well may lead to the end of this thread. I am not sure where the moderators draw the line but hopefully up to now, the platitudes has kept it in line. Might not last long now if the bait is taken. Nothing wrong with raising certain points but not here.
Actually  
Thegratefulhead : 5/14/2021 2:52 pm : link
As far as BBI threads that touch on this stuff. All of you take a bow. The underlying causes for the claims of the LB in the OP are political. I think most us have been respectful of opposing views. I want us find ways to talk about stuff that really matters, that we feel strongly about, without hating each other.
RE: RE: deleting the CTE thread  
Zeke's Alibi : 5/14/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15264098 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15264096 ron mexico said:


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and letting this one go is bullshit



It’s absolutely ridiculous.


There was actually some good conversation on that thread as well, unlike this dumpster fire.

I mean I don't like Tebow, but it's obvious he's getting another shot because he's connected to Urban. It's his football team, so he gets to run it how he wants. Helps build some buzz around the team (which a team like Jax desperately needs to fill seats). That's his value to the 90, highly doubt he makes the 53. Who knows? Maybe he's a special teams stud. Not out of the realm of possibility, he's a guy that has kept himself in tremendous shape and lives a healthy life.
RE: Actually  
Brown_Hornet : 5/14/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15264241 Thegratefulhead said:
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As far as BBI threads that touch on this stuff. All of you take a bow. The underlying causes for the claims of the LB in the OP are political. I think most us have been respectful of opposing views. I want us find ways to talk about stuff that really matters, that we feel strongly about, without hating each other.
+1
RE: ...  
LeonBright45 : 5/15/2021 7:25 am : link
In comment 15263808 Brown_Hornet said:
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...I believe that this is a manufactured complaint by the same people that are afraid of brown people.


Just wow
RE: RE: Actually  
UConn4523 : 5/15/2021 9:36 am : link
In comment 15264244 Brown_Hornet said:
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In comment 15264241 Thegratefulhead said:


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As far as BBI threads that touch on this stuff. All of you take a bow. The underlying causes for the claims of the LB in the OP are political. I think most us have been respectful of opposing views. I want us find ways to talk about stuff that really matters, that we feel strongly about, without hating each other.

+1


Yup, too bad asking the site owner a legitimate question about reading an article gets a thread deleted.
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