And by playing, getting a camp tryout to see if he makes the team as a TE.
I mean, players like Bush care more about Tebow putting on his football cleats again and trying out (at a new position) than he does about his rapist of a QB. Why not be upset about the real pieces of shit in the league like Deshaun Watson, Tyreke Hill, Kareem Hunt, etc. Kaep doesn't want to play anyway but they don't want to accept the truth. Imagine how shakingy mad Bush would have been if Tebow publicized his tryout like Kaep wanted to do.
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I get what Bush is trying to say but it doesn't hold much water anymore. Kaepernick wanted a starting job and a big new contract - once that dried up he made more money off the field.
He didn't even show up to his scheduled workout. Tebow did. Kaepernick wanted it televised.
But let them ignore that.
Yeah but they basically did it to save face. They did fuck it up from the get go so I understand why, from his KP's POV it probably just looked like a charity.
As for Kaep, I have concluded that he never really wanted to return. I think he very cleverly optimized and leveraged his situation and is now sitting on a bigger pile of cash and fame.
As for Kaep, I have concluded that he never really wanted to return. I think he very cleverly optimized and leveraged his situation and is now sitting on a bigger pile of cash and fame.
I would agree, but only after a certain point. The NFL dropped the ball on the whole thing initially and then it just snowballed. After all of that I can see Kaepernick just saying "fuck it" and riding the media train.
Why should there be anger at Tebow?
Why the anger for Tebow trying out? It effects absolutely no one else.
Yea this whole poop Kap thing is getting old. He made his bed, even if he did the moral correct thing here, and I think he did, but he still chose this path. You fuck with your employer, even if you're in the right, you're putting yourself at risk.
Tebow hasn't burned bridges. It is what it is. Fuck the NFL stance in general, no love lost for them here at all, but people need to move on with the Kap nonsense.
So is Bush directing some of his frustration at his own coach for not giving the same chance to Kaepernick?
There is way too much money in race relations....so people make an issue....when there is no issue.
We saw it all too clearly when Desean Jackson threw out the Hitler quote and very few NFL/NBA players got upset.
Ha ha ha, that’s awesome.
These guys look so foolish bringing him up like this now - maybe in 2017, but come on.
As for Kaep, I have concluded that he never really wanted to return. I think he very cleverly optimized and leveraged his situation and is now sitting on a bigger pile of cash and fame.
I agree, Kaepernick does not really want to play football as he is making so much more money now than he would have as a journeyman backup QB.
The truth is that if Kaepernick was good enough teams would not give a damn about his activism. Michael Vick was given a second chance because of his talent. Teams are still interested in trading for Deshaun Watson despite over 20 allegations against him. If Watson played like Kaepernick the Texans would have released him already and he would remain unsigned.
Racist POS should stay off social media
These guys look so foolish bringing him up like this now - maybe in 2017, but come on.
veganism?
This is a political thread. Kapernick was singled out for making a stance about police violence, which got conflated with patriotism and the flag by political opponents on one side of the aisle. All that is a distraction from the real issue that CK was protesting, sadly.
Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
veganism? seriously.
I don't understand the anger, at all.
He's a good athlete, who possibly could've been a good TE. Might be little late now, but he was given a camp invite from the Coach who he helped win 2 championships, in a region that loves him (for good reason).
It's not like he's been handed a roster spot. What's to be angry about?
If Kaepernick's old coach/coaches wanted to bring him back for a QB role, or even the same role as Tebow who would object? No one.
For a fleeting moment it looked like he could become a good NFL QB. The league caught up to him and he couldn't respond by getting better. It happens frequently (e.g. Tommy Maddox, Tim Couch, RG III, Duante Culpepper.....).
The difference with Kaep is that he was also an enormous distraction while being a 2nd string level QB. NOBODY in the NFL wants their backup QB to be a distraction.
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hasn't played football since Obama was in office. And he STUNK then. Given his veganism and political interests its seems clear that he is far from physically or mentally prepared for a full time role in a league as demanding as the NFL.
These guys look so foolish bringing him up like this now - maybe in 2017, but come on.
veganism?
This is a political thread. Kapernick was singled out for making a stance about police violence, which got conflated with patriotism and the flag by political opponents on one side of the aisle. All that is a distraction from the real issue that CK was protesting, sadly.
Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
veganism? seriously.
lol you're a moron.
I sometimes get really discouraged thinking about the numbskull ideas which might be projected onto me based on certain and limited criteria perhaps shared in common (but little else) with aforementioned numbskull.
Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
I'm not sure what it is exactly with Tebow - perhaps you are right - but I have never seen a player less accomplished at the NFL level get so much pub. At least Kaep got a team to the SB and was a play away from winning the game.
Let's face it, Tebow is not a story if ESPN doesn't keep making him a story. But they are in the business of finding stories to attract viewers, listeners, readers, etc. And they must have hard, reliable intel that Tebow moves the needle...
Racist POS should stay off social media
Whereas Tebow likely just loves the sport/competition.
Kap can eat a dick as far as I'm concerned.
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lol you're a moron.
I get you don't agree with me, but I am not a moron, and you are calling out names.
You put it out there, what does being a vegan have to do with anything? Defend that tripe (non-vegan btw) rather than call other people names.
I sometimes get really discouraged thinking about the numbskull ideas which might be projected onto me based on certain and limited criteria perhaps shared in common (but little else) with aforementioned numbskull.
+1 I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. You really put it into words perfectly, I'm going to use this in the future for sure lol
No, should be poop Kap
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hasn't played football since Obama was in office. And he STUNK then. Given his veganism and political interests its seems clear that he is far from physically or mentally prepared for a full time role in a league as demanding as the NFL.
These guys look so foolish bringing him up like this now - maybe in 2017, but come on.
veganism?
This is a political thread. Kapernick was singled out for making a stance about police violence, which got conflated with patriotism and the flag by political opponents on one side of the aisle. All that is a distraction from the real issue that CK was protesting, sadly.
Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
veganism? seriously.
lol you're a moron.
Arian Foster led the NFL in rushing as a vegan. Cam Newton is a vegan (except on game day when he eats eggs). There are a number of other vegan players. You really shouldn’t be calling anyone a moron…
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Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
I'm not sure what it is exactly with Tebow - perhaps you are right - but I have never seen a player less accomplished at the NFL level get so much pub. At least Kaep got a team to the SB and was a play away from winning the game.
Let's face it, Tebow is not a story if ESPN doesn't keep making him a story. But they are in the business of finding stories to attract viewers, listeners, readers, etc. And they must have hard, reliable intel that Tebow moves the needle...
How many news outlets other than ESPN are promoting Kaep? They are the same person, only one is willing to take less money and change positions to play a game he loves. It also has to due with his college coach loves what he did for him at Florida and sees the value of him in the locker room. Tebow also grew up just outside of Jacksonville, so he's got that going for him as well
I think Kap could play professional ball still, why not? Starting QB, no. But solid backup sure.
With a tremendous defense Kap was good enough to win games, just not against the Seahawks or really great defenses. 49ers went 8-8 with him in 2014, when based on the tape could have won 2 or 3 games with less than stellar defensive play. He was good for splash plays in *every* game, the likes the Niners haven't seen since Steve Young. Just in the traditional aspects of the game he makes Jimmy G look like Joe Montana.
In hindsight, he should have accepted the trade to the Denver after the Broncos won the Super Bowl. He'd still very likely be in the NFL today, barring some kind of injury or some other freak situation. Kap never had great offensive coaching. Harbaugh stuff was good for a hot minute, but then got figured out. This wasn't an Andy Reid/Kyle Shanahan level offensive innovation going on.
What allowed the early success you ask? The 49er offense at the other 10 positions were a poor man's version of what KC has now. Add the newness of the dual threat and he had open guys his first season and a half. And an arm that could get the ball anywhere on the field if he was open enough. Rewatch the New England game at Foxborough 2012...he put up 41 points that day.
That's the non homer reality on the guy. With enough years removed from the situation, I'm far from defending him and now he just annoys the fuck outta me when I hear him. If only there was just one other team associated with him to take the stink off, lol.
When he did the kneeling stuff (which was originally sitting on the bench), it was viewed as petulance from the 49er fanbase. Pissed he didn't get the starting job that he would eventually get anyways. There was no sign whatsoever he would be who he eventually became. None.
The Kap that won that first NFL start on Chicago MNF in the postgame is *unrecognizable* from a few years later. Body language, personality, clothing style, voice tone, etc. He used to be a likable guy.
Then Harbaugh turned him into a dick, and you get what you see. (he's another character for another day)
BTW, nothing annoys me more than seeing 80-90% of NFL fans saying he sucked post 2014, and now half of them defend him in football terms just over political BS........LMAO.
Annoying af. Stick to your guns.
NFL players are also a little full of shit. There was plenty of shit talk about him from opposing defenses making comments in post game. The Steelers were one of these teams I know, I wonder if Bush was on them in 2015....
I contend he was at least as good as Russell Wilson the first 2-3 seasons overall if you look at overall production. Either that or that 49er roster was severely underrated (defense too) and carried Kap even more than the Seahawks carried Wilson.
I know it was the best 52 man roster in the NFL 2011-2013. Just not the best 53.
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hasn't played football since Obama was in office. And he STUNK then. Given his veganism and political interests its seems clear that he is far from physically or mentally prepared for a full time role in a league as demanding as the NFL.
These guys look so foolish bringing him up like this now - maybe in 2017, but come on.
veganism?
This is a political thread. Kapernick was singled out for making a stance about police violence, which got conflated with patriotism and the flag by political opponents on one side of the aisle. All that is a distraction from the real issue that CK was protesting, sadly.
Signing Tebow hits a nerve because he is a white evangelical and just about a worthless a prospect that Kapernick was back in the day, or worse. I get the point of the article.
veganism? seriously.
He decided to go a different way than being a back up with potential to start.
Tebow is very tight with Urban and this is probably just a try out and see if it can work with no guarantees. Kaep if he wanted could have had similar opportunities in recent years. Comments like the one made do nothing to unite and unfortunately will be given merit by a good portion of society.