NFT: Get your tin foil ready: 60 Minutes airing UFO/UAP segment

In comment 15262540 widmerseyebrow said:

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Even though that kind of speculation will obviously follow. Officially confirmed encounters, the physics-defying performance, and how seriously the US government is taking all of this now in a very public way. Our government says it's not ours. What is the benefit of lying or talking about it at all for that matter?

Or the government just wants to distract the masses from their own incompetence.

Unless this is the one secret the President doesn't get to know about, there's no way the previous administration wouldn't have released any hard evidence.

In comment 15262594 Named Later said:

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I like Astronomy, and I spend a lot of time looking at the night sky. I have never seen anything remotely resembling a UFO. But that's just me. The odds favor intelligent life in the universe beyond our own galaxy. Each point of light you see in the night sky is a sun with many planets orbiting around it. Some of those planets may have the correct balance of elements for creating life. And nurturing that life to the point where they develop Interstellar Travel. But I can't imagine any sentient being speeding through Space and Time, covering thousands of Light Years in a single bound.....only to shadow a jet airliner ?!?!? Or hovering around the Roswell desert ?!?!?!?

Beings that intelligent might be wondering why we 'nuked' ourselves! :-D

In comment 15262761 christian said:

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Conceptually you don’t have to look much further than what humans are doing on Mars, to hypothesize how a distant civilization might approach Earth. It’s pretty logical to assume the first contacts from distant civilizations will be observational, and then exploratory interactions with uninhabited technology. So assuming some distant civilization has the technology to travel many hundreds of light years, and they are dipping their toes into our world, their tech is probably really fast, advanced, and hard for us to observe. And just like what we’re doing on Mars, not hard to imagine a few of their tries end up crashing and burning.

One big exception there is that Mars is literally the first planet we've ever explored. And we've gotten substantially better with each probe with the most recent being by far the most advanced landing (and a near perfect success). I imagine a civilization sending probes thousands (millions) of light years across the galaxy (Universe) would've landed hundreds (thousands) of probes on nearer planets prior.

we need something else to be afraid of.

In comment 15262138 Jints in Carolina said:

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I miss his UFO posts ...

What happened to GiantFilthy? He was also around here for a long time and a popular poster and then the crickets started. If they changed their handles or posted drunk and were band and decided to not come back for whatever reasons - that is fine.

I just hope they are okay physically/emotionally and nobody got hurt (or worse?).

In comment 15262501 Trainmaster said:

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So that means extraterrestrials? Sagan Standard, Occam's Razor etc..

Where did i say that?

on the subject, check out series like Fringe, and now, Debris, by the same folks. also, admittedly silly, but raising intriguing concepts, are the Stargate series. time, space, multi dimensions, genetics, afterlife, quantum physics are all concepts we know less about than we think.
there are also now three schools of thought on our origins; evolution, creationism, and intervention.

That hypothesized it's almost statistically impossible to locate us no matter how advanced your technology is.

The basic point was there as many as 300 million potentially habitable planets in our galaxy alone. That's not even counting all the other galaxies we know about, and those we don't.

So the main hypothesis of the book was even if a super advanced intelligent species out there exists with technology we can't even fathom, finding us would be like trying to find one very specific single grain of sand on earth. Therefore it would be nearly impossible to even locate earth even if they spent millenniums trying.

In comment 15263376 moespree said:

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That hypothesized it's almost statistically impossible to locate us no matter how advanced your technology is. The basic point was there as many as 300 million potentially habitable planets in our galaxy alone. That's not even counting all the other galaxies we know about, and those we don't. So the main hypothesis of the book was even if a super advanced intelligent species out there exists with technology we can't even fathom, finding us would be like trying to find one very specific single grain of sand on earth. Therefore it would be nearly impossible to even locate earth even if they spent millenniums trying.

I mean that's based on what we barely know about physics, time travel, etc etc.

I believe this poster had it correct with Carl Sagan's advice. I'm not too convinced it's aliens until we can completely disprove it isn't some natural phenomena even. We have some eye witness accounts (always sketch) and things that popped up on the radar. These phenomenons are certainly happening, but definitely not at the point where anything conclusive can even be hypothesized.

(60 Minutes, Today Show, Shepherd Smith) ahead of a report due to Congress next month.
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