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Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 10:41 am
They were discussing how the NFCE will be decided the last 5 weeks and that the new 17 game schedule might make NFCE teams consider resting a player before that brutal 5 week stretch.

I disagree, I think the 17 game season is too short to risk giving any game away. I thought it was forced. Thoughts?
Dianna Russini  
nygiants16 : 5/13/2021 10:47 am : link
on Canty, Rothenburg and dipietro said Eagles are winning the division and Giants win 6 games
Yes, Judge  
Big Blue '56 : 5/13/2021 10:47 am : link
is the type of coach to do that…:)
I agree with you  
eric2425ny : 5/13/2021 10:48 am : link
I don’t see any NFL teams resting players unless their playoff spot is solidified and it’s week 18. It’s not like the NBA, NHL, or MLB where you can rest players and potentially sacrifice a few games here or there and still lock a playoff spot.
Division Race  
Des51 : 5/13/2021 10:51 am : link
Will be too close for NFC East teams to rest any players. WFT last 5 games are all within the division. Eagles last 4 games within the division. Dallas 4 out of their last 5 games within the division. Giants 3 out of last 4
I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
bLiTz 2k : 5/13/2021 10:52 am : link
You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.
RE: Dianna Russini  
Scooter185 : 5/13/2021 10:57 am : link
In comment 15262921 nygiants16 said:
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on Canty, Rothenburg and dipietro said Eagles are winning the division and Giants win 6 games


On KJZ this morning for the 8am opener they played a clip from an earlier interview with the question "who's most likely to be looking for a new QB in the 2022 draft" and I believe the response was "i love Daniel Jones but the Giants"

Unfortunately I have no other context, or even know who was getting asked the question, because I didn't hear the actual interview.
It certainly doesn’t look like an easy schedule  
mattlawson : 5/13/2021 11:00 am : link
Anything can happen
What brutal 5 game stretch?  
Jimmy Googs : 5/13/2021 11:05 am : link
The Giants don't even play anybody that had a winning record over the last 5 games...
NBA?  
Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 11:06 am : link
They also tied in QBs trying to push their way out of teams. I didn't see all of it but it felt like they were trying to say the NFL is becoming the NBA. Seemed like fear mongering.
Anyone  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/13/2021 11:06 am : link
who makes that argument should not be covering football.
RE: What brutal 5 game stretch?  
Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 11:07 am : link
In comment 15262945 Jimmy Googs said:
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The Giants don't even play anybody that had a winning record over the last 5 games...
Look at the last 5 games of every NFCE team. Were are playing each other a lot. Giants the least with 3 in the division I think.
As crazy as it sounds  
UberAlias : 5/13/2021 11:12 am : link
There has been speculation that BB has done this sort of thing before.
RE: RE: What brutal 5 game stretch?  
Jimmy Googs : 5/13/2021 11:13 am : link
In comment 15262949 Thegratefulhead said:
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The Giants don't even play anybody that had a winning record over the last 5 games...

Look at the last 5 games of every NFCE team. Were are playing each other a lot. Giants the least with 3 in the division I think.


The NFCE has some talent but is exactly scaring anybody right now. These could be some of the easier games for the NYG
RE: I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
bw in dc : 5/13/2021 11:14 am : link
In comment 15262929 bLiTz 2k said:
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You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.


I mostly agree, especially if there is the normal seven days between games.

However, and I'm just speaking generally here, I could see teams resting players for Thursday games late in the season. Those three day turnarounds are brutal...

I still shake my head on why the NFLPA agreed to the Thursday games. They are as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Who wouldn't love to have the opportunity to negotiate against DeMaurice Smith? The guy can't stop giving things away...
RE: I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
UConn4523 : 5/13/2021 11:15 am : link
In comment 15262929 bLiTz 2k said:
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You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.


I agree, I don't understand it. Which games we win doesn't matter unless it goes to tiebreakers.
Maybe the thought would cross my head for a second  
eli4life : 5/13/2021 11:15 am : link
If we had like a week 4 bye but we have week 10 right before that 5 week run so why the f@&$ would we do it a week or two later?
Dallas  
Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 11:16 am : link
as an example plays their last 5 games all against the NFCE.
They play the Raiders Nov 25th. If the sat a key player or 2 on Dec 2nd against the Saints. You could get rest from Nov 25th to December 12th.
RE: RE: I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
UberAlias : 5/13/2021 11:17 am : link
In comment 15262958 UConn4523 said:
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You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.



I agree, I don't understand it. Which games we win doesn't matter unless it goes to tiebreakers.
This is almost true. Except who you bet also impacts your opponents record. Beating a team you are in a race with has more value than beating team who is not in a playoff race with you.
Dallas Dec 12th  
Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 11:20 am : link
Is the start of 5 games against the NFCE. Winning them all probably gives them the division no?

FYI I am not suggesting I believe this, I am just trying present some of what was being said for the purposes of dsicussion.
RE: RE: RE: I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
bLiTz 2k : 5/13/2021 11:23 am : link
In comment 15262963 UberAlias said:
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In comment 15262929 bLiTz 2k said:


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You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.



I agree, I don't understand it. Which games we win doesn't matter unless it goes to tiebreakers.

This is almost true. Except who you bet also impacts your opponents record. Beating a team you are in a race with has more value than beating team who is not in a playoff race with you.


Ahh I missed that point in the original post...I assume they were suggesting to rest players before the division games, wasn't really clear.

Still a stupid topic lol
RE: RE: RE: I don't even get the point that's being made here..  
UConn4523 : 5/13/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15262963 UberAlias said:
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In comment 15262958 UConn4523 said:


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In comment 15262929 bLiTz 2k said:


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You should rest players and risk losing games to try and win harder games later in the year?

That makes literally no sense whatsoever. You can rest when you're locked into a playoff seed. 1 more regular season game doesn't change anything.



I agree, I don't understand it. Which games we win doesn't matter unless it goes to tiebreakers.

This is almost true. Except who you bet also impacts your opponents record. Beating a team you are in a race with has more value than beating team who is not in a playoff race with you.


Yeah but that's always the case. I don't really see how 1 more game makes some massive difference when it comes to resting players. I guess I can see it for someone coming back from injury but I don't see a scenario where an off week is granted to a player just because. Judge doesn't seem like the type of coach to go that route.
It's all hands on deck  
AnnapolisMike : 5/13/2021 11:29 am : link
the only exception would be if the game meant absolutely nothing in terms of playoff positioning for either team.

If the Giants win 6 games...something went terribly wrong. Jones, Barkley, Gettleman will all be gone after the season is over. This is a team that is in win now mode. They have given Jones everything he should need to be successful in terms of weapons and the defense should be better. 8-9 Wins should be the floor.
NFL resting players in the middle of the season??  
ZogZerg : 5/13/2021 11:45 am : link
Isn't that what the bye week is for?

LOL! So much garbage on the air ways these days.
Want to set the other side of this better  
Thegratefulhead : 5/13/2021 1:00 pm : link
Not my take, but I am assuming it.

Imagine the division is tight and you are Dallas. 5 Games in the division to end the season. It is November 26th and you are in a 3 way tie for the division lead. Players have been playing nicked up. Elliot has been out and 2 of the WR are battling a hammy and an ankle respectively.

You can sit all 3 players on Dec 2nd and they would have a break that went from November 25- Dec 12 to get fresh for that 5 game stretch that will decide the division. This probably means you lose the Dec 2nd game to the Saints.

It is not completely crazy talk.
It's the NFL  
PaulN : 5/13/2021 1:05 pm : link
There are no easy games.
We won a Championship in large part because we didn’t rest  
glowrider : 5/13/2021 1:10 pm : link
Our guys. It gave them confidence and coincidentally we got a rematch and kicked their fucking ass.

John Madden sent Coughlin a message after the Week 17 game that he was crying bc he did it the right way when it wasn’t in jeopardy. Could’ve rested, but played starters and played to win.
If they made it a 19 week season  
moespree : 5/13/2021 1:24 pm : link
With 2 bye weeks there wouldn't even be this pointless discussion. Start the season a week earlier, and you can still have your President's Day weekend Super Bowl and 17 game season.
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