McDonagh was the Lightning's best dman this series IMO. He isn't as athletic and fast as he was on 2014 with the Rangers, but he's really turned into a brilliant defenseman.
I thought McDonagh was a non-factor before this series started, but I agree with you. He was far and away their best defenseman. That says something on a team with a Hedman on it.
I looked it up after I posted: he had 12 points in 50 games each of the last two seasons. I didn't realize his offensive game fell off that hard, but it's clear he lost some of the pop/skating that made him elite.
I actually thought Hedman was sort of not noticable this series.
I'm also a huge fan of Sergachev, I think he's great.
I think the Lightning have a season or two left of competing at most. Too many of these guys are getting old. They've had an incredible six year window so far, though.
They are an offensive juggernaut, but they play some damn fine defense. I underestimated how well they can p,any shut down defense. They are a very complete team.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
They are an offensive juggernaut, but they play some damn fine defense. I underestimated how well they can p,any shut down defense. They are a very complete team.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
Islanders don't have a Kucherov or a Brayden Point who can just dominate a game. Barzal is the closest thing they have to that type of player
They are an offensive juggernaut, but they play some damn fine defense. I underestimated how well they can p,any shut down defense. They are a very complete team.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
Islanders don't have a Kucherov or a Brayden Point who can just dominate a game. Barzal is the closest thing they have to that type of player
They don’t. Hoping Wahlstrom can become the sniper they so badly need, but we got Travis Zajac instead. I love Trotz, but at some point you need to realize that Travis Zajac is no longer a guy who is altering the trajectory of a series. That was frustrating to watch.
I thought McDonagh was a non-factor before this series started, but I agree with you. He was far and away their best defenseman. That says something on a team with a Hedman on it.//////
I looked it up after I posted: he had 12 points in 50 games each of the last two seasons. I didn't realize his offensive game fell off that hard, but it's clear he lost some of the pop/skating that made him elite.
Very likely, and you have among the best and keenest eyes on these NHL threads. Yet watching him hang close with Barzal when he was doing his 35 seconds (?) or more virtuoso solo performance trying to find an open man in Wednesday night's third period, I was struck at the time, and each time since when NBCSN/USA replayed that, how tightly McD did hang, wheel for wheel, reversal by reversal, in tight spirals, around Vasilevskiy's net, with Barzal. pj and I had a quasi-exchange as to the one-on-one (still not sure if pj agreed that it was unusual).
No doubt those scoring dropoffs are eye opening and likely indicate a drop-off in play, but I wonder too how much of it might be influenced by the abundance of talent around him, he doesn't need to try to do as much. For much or most his last four years with NYR (comparator for scoring?) I think Girardi was his d-partner, 'nuff said.
my point was you said it looked like TBL was matching up McDonagh to Barzal.
My point was it is unusual for two reasons: normally it's total D pair (maybe you meant the McDonagh/Cernak pairing?) and it's usually forward line to forward line and then lastly the game you mentioned that was in Long Island - and the Islanders had last change so could have adjusted any way they wanted to once TBL had their players on the ice. That last point doesn't mean it's not what TBL was doing but it did mean if that was the case NYI didn't care to adjust to it.
Yes, I remember writing how I thought Girardi was anchoring him as early as 2015.
I think you're right on the talent. He has had zero power play points the past two years (I couldn't find power play ice time, but I assume it must be like zero considering he only had five shots on the power play this year and none last year). His last year with the Rangers he had 9 PP points in 49 games, so that's definitely a big reason.
He clearly relies on his hockey IQ more than skating ability now (although he's still a good skater he isn't as fast as he once was).
Brendan Gallagher says as of right now it does not sound like Dominique Ducharme will be available before Game 3.
I was talking to one of my Bruins fan buddies about the habs (who he obviously hates) and he said Ducharme was the turning point for the Habs. He felt Julien style wasn't the best in MTL and they should do more "block shots clog up the center" type approach and it wasn't an easy transition, but I wonder if he's right. He wasn't critical of Julien just that coaches like Julien are sometimes inflexible in their approach.
Just something to consider when people say what happened to MTL - they're one of a handful of teams to get this far with a mid-season coaching change and maybe it's not as much an accident as some think.
Pj, thanks, I was curious about your thoughts on the impact of the coaching change. TBH, I didn't pay much attention to MTL this season since I never thought they would be a real contender.
Vigneault had the same issue with the Rangers. He never changed his system as the team lost some of its speed. He took forever to adapt to opponents or deteriorating of his players - I recall during the ECF against Tampa he took a few games to start giving Yandle and Boyle real ice time.
Given there have been not infrequent tangents on NYR topics, I'll proceed. I had not heard this before reading The Athletic column today on next steps for Drury and Gallant.
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Hyman is much more of a top-sixer than the others, but I think any of them would look better on the right of Ryan Strome and Artemi Panarin than Colin Blackwell does, for example, and arguably than Kaapo Kakko does.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
but it just feels dirty having a team from Florida in the Stanley Cup. Would have been nice to see the Isles make it. They got outplayed considerably, but that's a fun team to watch and they've got heart. Hope our Rangers exhibit some balls next season and make it interesting again.
You too? This is like all the BBI guys who were rooting for the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. The hell is that all about?
Given there have been not infrequent tangents on NYR topics, I'll proceed. I had not heard this before reading The Athletic column today on next steps for Drury and Gallant.
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Hyman is much more of a top-sixer than the others, but I think any of them would look better on the right of Ryan Strome and Artemi Panarin than Colin Blackwell does, for example, and arguably than Kaapo Kakko does.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
What does deferred mean here? Allowed it?
Only thing worse than a player picking their linemates (even at the pro level) is a coach who lets them.
Good luck pjcas18. When's the last time a team from Canada won it all? It's been awhile no?
Habs, '93.
It's been a decade since a Canadian team was even in the SCF (Canucks loss to the Bruins unless I'm forgetting someone).
I don't care about things like that, some people make a big deal about it (not saying you did but I know people do) - I'm American, I root for almost all the American players (at least to do well especially if they're on the Habs like Caufield, Petry, Merrill or even the injured Ryan Poehling), but I always find that stat silly - the league is still almost 45% Canadian players - by far the most for any country. So whenever a team wins the cup, there is a good chance it's got a majority of Canadian players.
I just think it'd be cool for a Canadian team to win it all. Our most popular sport in football & their is-far & away-hockey. And as you said, it'll be 28 years now since the country won it all.
I've been to Canada a ton of times & am always amused/impressed how seriously they take their hockey. Good for them.
a lot after the NHL playoffs, I know football players are tough, but I'm convinced there are no tougher athletes than hockey players. in 2013 Patrice Bergeron played through the SCF with a collapsed lung (not to mention cracked ribs and torn cartilage).
Oh, and I thought Alec Martinez was probably the GK's best player.
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"I was getting wheeled around a lot. Our medical staff is awesome here."
Given there have been not infrequent tangents on NYR topics, I'll proceed. I had not heard this before reading The Athletic column today on next steps for Drury and Gallant.
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Hyman is much more of a top-sixer than the others, but I think any of them would look better on the right of Ryan Strome and Artemi Panarin than Colin Blackwell does, for example, and arguably than Kaapo Kakko does.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
This is interesting, but I get it. Blackwell is a strong forechecker and does the stuff that complements Panarin well. Kakko and Panarin are both puck possession players, so they might not play well together.
I’ve never played high level but there are guys who you don’t mesh well with even if they’re really good.
context, but it seems selfish of Panarin. Almost sounds like he's more interested in points than what's best for the team (which is what the coach should in theory be considering)
This is interesting, but I get it. Blackwell is a strong forechecker and does the stuff that complements Panarin well. Kakko and Panarin are both puck possession players, so they might not play well together.
I’ve never played high level but there are guys who you don’t mesh well with even if they’re really good.
Brett, that's a solid take, albeit I wouldn't have come up with that. KK is good when he is on the puck (keeping possession) but not that much seems to happen, and maybe that's what Panarin senses?
And pj, yes, I read it that Quinn deferred/acquiesced to Panarin's wishes, if true, and agree that's not a good take for the club, esp. if it leaked enough for a beat to disseminate it. Not that it cuts any way in particular, but I think the transition to NHL and NYR in particular (?) has not been easy for Kakko. He seems a bit aloof. Any good Fins who are FAs? (:
Good luck to les Habitants: also would love to see a Canadian team take the Cup, especially from a team from....Florida? wtf? But Tampa Bay, damn, last night the Islanders could not find their game against the Bolts, as if pixie dust drugged them and TBL just had their way. Very, very tough team to play against; of course, I thought and said the same about LVK against Montréal.
looked good, but the Fins are so disciplined they expect everyone to be in spots where they're not - I saw it with Kotkaniemi.
I think Kakko explodes next year into a budding star.
i see how he thinks the game - the US liked the Fins model so much they pattered the ADM model after it and it's taught from mites to pros now - and Kakko was one of the best.
He'll be fine IMO. But...Joel Armia is a FA and the Canadiens did put Armia with Kotkaniemi for a while early for the Finnish influence.
story is disgusting. It is going to blow up, I bet the league is hoping not until after the SC, I hope it does right now. No one is going to be held accountable for this and it sucks. link - ( New Window )
CHP, I think your analysis of Kakko is correct. I think Kakko is an elite defensive forward, a good puck possession player, and strong along the boards. But he doesn't have the offensive zone ability yet (which I think he'll develop the next season or two). I can see why him and Artemi don't mesh. Someone like Lafreniere might be a better style fit down the line.
context, but it seems selfish of Panarin. Almost sounds like he's more interested in points than what's best for the team (which is what the coach should in theory be considering)
I can see it being selfish but also think Panarin just views Kakko as incompatible. I don't know obviously.
He didn't score a ton this season but he was a terrific all-around player. Excellent defensive awareness and played very smart hockey for such a young guy. He may never be a big-time scorer, but I'll bet he ends up a 25 goal guy who is a Selke candidate and plays a rugged game.
story is disgusting. It is going to blow up, I bet the league is hoping not until after the SC, I hope it does right now. No one is going to be held accountable for this and it sucks. link - ( New Window )
I've been reading the articles - there was one person who pushed management to call the police. Why didn't that person call the police when management resisted?
I hope we get a real investigation. how can some of these people remain in hockey?
context, but it seems selfish of Panarin. Almost sounds like he's more interested in points than what's best for the team (which is what the coach should in theory be considering)
I can see it being selfish but also think Panarin just views Kakko as incompatible. I don't know obviously.
My sense though is Panarin, a veteran, should have said I'm going to make Kakko better, not thought like Kakko isn't going to retrieve pucks for me.
My daughter cried when I took her off the 1st line (where she was playing with two really good players and her friends) and I put her on the 3rd line because I wanted to even the lines out better.
She sat the whole 1st period.
I think something that should endure through professional hockey. What kind of message does it send to Kakko that Panarin wants to play for a JAG like Blackwell? What kind of message does it send to the rest of the team? It's a terrible way to coach and it should never be public.
There is nothing positive IMO from a player going public with Panarin begging or demanding to play with a specific mediocre player.
I don't know, I guess I feel strongly about this topic because on our youth team it was such a big deal about the concept of team vs individuals.
Maybe talk privately to the coach - one time - state your opinion, then let it go. Begging or demanding? without more context sounds awful for Panarin.
story is disgusting. It is going to blow up, I bet the league is hoping not until after the SC, I hope it does right now. No one is going to be held accountable for this and it sucks. link - ( New Window )
I've been reading the articles - there was one person who pushed management to call the police. Why didn't that person call the police when management resisted?
I hope we get a real investigation. how can some of these people remain in hockey?
They keep saying they're going to clean up the sport, but then shit like this keeps coming out.
I really don't need to hear from Carcillo though. He was a scum bag when he played and now that he's no longer of use to any team in the NHL he's holier than thou? fuck him - he can get back on his high horse and cheap shot himself now that he can't get paid to cheap shot anyone else.
thank God I haven't, but I dont know how one of those hockey players didnt beat the fuck out of the assistant coach for what he was apparently doing to them.
thank God I haven't, but I dont know how one of those hockey players didnt beat the fuck out of the assistant coach for what he was apparently doing to them.
Same. I can only imagine they're scared, embarrassed, and probably worried it could end their career and for most of them it's all they know and have done since they were 6 years old.
same. I can only imagine they're scared, embarrassed, and probably worried it could end their career and for most of them it's all they know and have done since they were 6 years old.
Most upsetting is the Black Hawks litigating against disclosures because stat. of limitations has run. Wtf? So the franchise's position is that, since no criminal liability can now attach, what good would disclosure achieve except to make us look bad for not doing the right thing? What a look.
Sure conjures up the Larry Nasser situation and USGymnastics and its Pres. Steve Penny, USOC, and MSU from covering up their roles in attempting to bury untold cases of abuse. ('Athlete A' on Netflix btw is a good documentary on this.) It's not quite the same as these were pre-adolescent and adolescent girls, not professional hockey players, or is it, as pj suggests? Were they just as under the screws as aspiring teen Olympians?
He didn't score a ton this season but he was a terrific all-around player. Excellent defensive awareness and played very smart hockey for such a young guy. He may never be a big-time scorer, but I'll bet he ends up a 25 goal guy who is a Selke candidate and plays a rugged game.
I do too, he had a really strong season after being dog shit his rookie year. I thought he was barely an NHL player.
Barkov and Huberdeau (and countless others) took 3-4 years to get going offensively. I'm hoping we get a PPG guy out of him - he looked dominant in the offensive zone in the World Championship before being drafted.
I hope you and Greg are right (pj has felt this way too). His first season, after the Worlds and full season of Fin Liga, he was still 18, exhausted, deer in the headlights, and, understandably, deferred to anything he saw on ice. 2021 was distinct improvement, and some fine moments, but not enough in the attacking end. I hope Panarin broaches this with him in a positive way.
Would be cool to see Evans come back if he's healthy.
Last we heard on Evans was at outset of LVK series you said he was at practice. Obviously he's been held out, or not fit. Wonder if any intel on his RTP progress or set-backs?
Two of the best goalies in the game, and neither goal was a particularly difficult shot. Goalies just seemed slow to react to each.
Lots of red sweaters in the crowd. More lightning fans seem to prefer sitting outside than inside. Odd since this could be their last home game until October.
And speaking of Tampa’s fans, why do they boo the most obvious calls like they were crimes. The McDonough high stick? That call can’t be more obvious. It seems to be the only thing that draws their attention.
9, if that's a reference to leaving the puck unattended behind Price's net, there have been several of that kind of headscratcher these Playoffs. Seemed not so much a decision as a mindless drop to no one. Brutal game for MTL to lose.
To change the modality a bit, of the four pbp callers when the four Divisions began, I think Kenny Albert is the 2nd worst, 3rd best. He calls it 'professionally', often has the timing on crescendoing his voice right, but has no innate feel for, pulse of, the game imo. A smashing check along the boards or a simo collision is called the same, 'Player A and Player B come together'. A really impressive sliding poke check to break up a rush is called "And MTL brings it out of its end".
And in the middle of some close, compelling in-zone passing or keeping the puck inside the BL, Albert will interject, 'Score is 2-1 BOS, series tied, two game apiece,". Yeah, the pbp guy IS supposed to set the context reasonably frequently from time to time, but he does it as if he's on radio and the viewer has no access to the info graphic in the upper right. Save it for the pause for an icing or offsides. Sorry for the pet peeves.
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McDonagh was the Lightning's best dman this series IMO. He isn't as athletic and fast as he was on 2014 with the Rangers, but he's really turned into a brilliant defenseman.
I thought McDonagh was a non-factor before this series started, but I agree with you. He was far and away their best defenseman. That says something on a team with a Hedman on it.
I looked it up after I posted: he had 12 points in 50 games each of the last two seasons. I didn't realize his offensive game fell off that hard, but it's clear he lost some of the pop/skating that made him elite.
I actually thought Hedman was sort of not noticable this series.
I'm also a huge fan of Sergachev, I think he's great.
I think the Lightning have a season or two left of competing at most. Too many of these guys are getting old. They've had an incredible six year window so far, though.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
Islanders don't have a Kucherov or a Brayden Point who can just dominate a game. Barzal is the closest thing they have to that type of player
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They are an offensive juggernaut, but they play some damn fine defense. I underestimated how well they can p,any shut down defense. They are a very complete team.
The Isles have a ton of heart and play a disciplined game, but they don’t have the offensive talent to steal a game like this. They have skill, but not the two way skill Tampa has.
Islanders don't have a Kucherov or a Brayden Point who can just dominate a game. Barzal is the closest thing they have to that type of player
They don’t. Hoping Wahlstrom can become the sniper they so badly need, but we got Travis Zajac instead. I love Trotz, but at some point you need to realize that Travis Zajac is no longer a guy who is altering the trajectory of a series. That was frustrating to watch.
I looked it up after I posted: he had 12 points in 50 games each of the last two seasons. I didn't realize his offensive game fell off that hard, but it's clear he lost some of the pop/skating that made him elite.
No doubt those scoring dropoffs are eye opening and likely indicate a drop-off in play, but I wonder too how much of it might be influenced by the abundance of talent around him, he doesn't need to try to do as much. For much or most his last four years with NYR (comparator for scoring?) I think Girardi was his d-partner, 'nuff said.
My point was it is unusual for two reasons: normally it's total D pair (maybe you meant the McDonagh/Cernak pairing?) and it's usually forward line to forward line and then lastly the game you mentioned that was in Long Island - and the Islanders had last change so could have adjusted any way they wanted to once TBL had their players on the ice. That last point doesn't mean it's not what TBL was doing but it did mean if that was the case NYI didn't care to adjust to it.
Yes, I remember writing how I thought Girardi was anchoring him as early as 2015.
I think you're right on the talent. He has had zero power play points the past two years (I couldn't find power play ice time, but I assume it must be like zero considering he only had five shots on the power play this year and none last year). His last year with the Rangers he had 9 PP points in 49 games, so that's definitely a big reason.
He clearly relies on his hockey IQ more than skating ability now (although he's still a good skater he isn't as fast as he once was).
I was talking to one of my Bruins fan buddies about the habs (who he obviously hates) and he said Ducharme was the turning point for the Habs. He felt Julien style wasn't the best in MTL and they should do more "block shots clog up the center" type approach and it wasn't an easy transition, but I wonder if he's right. He wasn't critical of Julien just that coaches like Julien are sometimes inflexible in their approach.
Just something to consider when people say what happened to MTL - they're one of a handful of teams to get this far with a mid-season coaching change and maybe it's not as much an accident as some think.
Vigneault had the same issue with the Rangers. He never changed his system as the team lost some of its speed. He took forever to adapt to opponents or deteriorating of his players - I recall during the ECF against Tampa he took a few games to start giving Yandle and Boyle real ice time.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
You too? This is like all the BBI guys who were rooting for the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. The hell is that all about?
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Hyman is much more of a top-sixer than the others, but I think any of them would look better on the right of Ryan Strome and Artemi Panarin than Colin Blackwell does, for example, and arguably than Kaapo Kakko does.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
What does deferred mean here? Allowed it?
Only thing worse than a player picking their linemates (even at the pro level) is a coach who lets them.
Habs, '93.
It's been a decade since a Canadian team was even in the SCF (Canucks loss to the Bruins unless I'm forgetting someone).
I don't care about things like that, some people make a big deal about it (not saying you did but I know people do) - I'm American, I root for almost all the American players (at least to do well especially if they're on the Habs like Caufield, Petry, Merrill or even the injured Ryan Poehling), but I always find that stat silly - the league is still almost 45% Canadian players - by far the most for any country. So whenever a team wins the cup, there is a good chance it's got a majority of Canadian players.
I've been to Canada a ton of times & am always amused/impressed how seriously they take their hockey. Good for them.
Oh, and I thought Alec Martinez was probably the GK's best player.
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Alec Martinez played the playoffs on a broken foot.
"I was getting wheeled around a lot. Our medical staff is awesome here."
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Hyman is much more of a top-sixer than the others, but I think any of them would look better on the right of Ryan Strome and Artemi Panarin than Colin Blackwell does, for example, and arguably than Kaapo Kakko does.
By the way, it was Panarin who frequently asked coach David Quinn, if not begged or demanded, that Blackwell be on his right rather than Kakko, among others. Quinn usually deferred.
This is interesting, but I get it. Blackwell is a strong forechecker and does the stuff that complements Panarin well. Kakko and Panarin are both puck possession players, so they might not play well together.
I’ve never played high level but there are guys who you don’t mesh well with even if they’re really good.
I’ve never played high level but there are guys who you don’t mesh well with even if they’re really good.
And pj, yes, I read it that Quinn deferred/acquiesced to Panarin's wishes, if true, and agree that's not a good take for the club, esp. if it leaked enough for a beat to disseminate it. Not that it cuts any way in particular, but I think the transition to NHL and NYR in particular (?) has not been easy for Kakko. He seems a bit aloof. Any good Fins who are FAs? (:
Good luck to les Habitants: also would love to see a Canadian team take the Cup, especially from a team from....Florida? wtf? But Tampa Bay, damn, last night the Islanders could not find their game against the Bolts, as if pixie dust drugged them and TBL just had their way. Very, very tough team to play against; of course, I thought and said the same about LVK against Montréal.
I think Kakko explodes next year into a budding star.
i see how he thinks the game - the US liked the Fins model so much they pattered the ADM model after it and it's taught from mites to pros now - and Kakko was one of the best.
He'll be fine IMO. But...Joel Armia is a FA and the Canadiens did put Armia with Kotkaniemi for a while early for the Finnish influence.
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I can see it being selfish but also think Panarin just views Kakko as incompatible. I don't know obviously.
I've been reading the articles - there was one person who pushed management to call the police. Why didn't that person call the police when management resisted?
I hope we get a real investigation. how can some of these people remain in hockey?
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context, but it seems selfish of Panarin. Almost sounds like he's more interested in points than what's best for the team (which is what the coach should in theory be considering)
I can see it being selfish but also think Panarin just views Kakko as incompatible. I don't know obviously.
My sense though is Panarin, a veteran, should have said I'm going to make Kakko better, not thought like Kakko isn't going to retrieve pucks for me.
My daughter cried when I took her off the 1st line (where she was playing with two really good players and her friends) and I put her on the 3rd line because I wanted to even the lines out better.
She sat the whole 1st period.
I think something that should endure through professional hockey. What kind of message does it send to Kakko that Panarin wants to play for a JAG like Blackwell? What kind of message does it send to the rest of the team? It's a terrible way to coach and it should never be public.
There is nothing positive IMO from a player going public with Panarin begging or demanding to play with a specific mediocre player.
I don't know, I guess I feel strongly about this topic because on our youth team it was such a big deal about the concept of team vs individuals.
Maybe talk privately to the coach - one time - state your opinion, then let it go. Begging or demanding? without more context sounds awful for Panarin.
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story is disgusting. It is going to blow up, I bet the league is hoping not until after the SC, I hope it does right now. No one is going to be held accountable for this and it sucks. link - ( New Window )
I've been reading the articles - there was one person who pushed management to call the police. Why didn't that person call the police when management resisted?
I hope we get a real investigation. how can some of these people remain in hockey?
They keep saying they're going to clean up the sport, but then shit like this keeps coming out.
I really don't need to hear from Carcillo though. He was a scum bag when he played and now that he's no longer of use to any team in the NHL he's holier than thou? fuck him - he can get back on his high horse and cheap shot himself now that he can't get paid to cheap shot anyone else.
Same. I can only imagine they're scared, embarrassed, and probably worried it could end their career and for most of them it's all they know and have done since they were 6 years old.
Sure conjures up the Larry Nasser situation and USGymnastics and its Pres. Steve Penny, USOC, and MSU from covering up their roles in attempting to bury untold cases of abuse. ('Athlete A' on Netflix btw is a good documentary on this.) It's not quite the same as these were pre-adolescent and adolescent girls, not professional hockey players, or is it, as pj suggests? Were they just as under the screws as aspiring teen Olympians?
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Marc Bergevin says Joel Armia is in COVID protocol, and there will be further updates later on.
I do too, he had a really strong season after being dog shit his rookie year. I thought he was barely an NHL player.
Barkov and Huberdeau (and countless others) took 3-4 years to get going offensively. I'm hoping we get a PPG guy out of him - he looked dominant in the offensive zone in the World Championship before being drafted.
And getting blown the fuck out. 5-1.
And getting blown the fuck out. 5-1.
What an odd (and boring) Stanley Cup Finals matchup.
Lots of red sweaters in the crowd. More lightning fans seem to prefer sitting outside than inside. Odd since this could be their last home game until October.
And speaking of Tampa’s fans, why do they boo the most obvious calls like they were crimes. The McDonough high stick? That call can’t be more obvious. It seems to be the only thing that draws their attention.
Really good team, very strange fans.
And how bad is Pierre McGuire? He seems to get worse as the action picks up. Saying stuff just to stay stuff.
To change the modality a bit, of the four pbp callers when the four Divisions began, I think Kenny Albert is the 2nd worst, 3rd best. He calls it 'professionally', often has the timing on crescendoing his voice right, but has no innate feel for, pulse of, the game imo. A smashing check along the boards or a simo collision is called the same, 'Player A and Player B come together'. A really impressive sliding poke check to break up a rush is called "And MTL brings it out of its end".
And in the middle of some close, compelling in-zone passing or keeping the puck inside the BL, Albert will interject, 'Score is 2-1 BOS, series tied, two game apiece,". Yeah, the pbp guy IS supposed to set the context reasonably frequently from time to time, but he does it as if he's on radio and the viewer has no access to the info graphic in the upper right. Save it for the pause for an icing or offsides. Sorry for the pet peeves.