It might signal TE, or it might signal they are still uncomfortable with the outside WR spot opposite Golladay. We'll have another data point when he measures in.
They drafted Toney in the 1st round, but I'm fine if he's seen as more of a Utility Knife than a pure outside WR. (In today's NFL, an elite Utility Knife is worth a 1st round pick.) But that wouldn't change the fact they still might not be satisfied, outside.
There were a lot of tall receivers in the 2021 NFL draft
Another interesting tryout this weekend with Giants: RB Corey Clement. He was a Super Bowl hero for the Eagles a few years back. He has a chance to impress now w/NFC rival. Giants can still use depth at RB.
for another tall receiver to fight for a pass can only help increase the options if DJ is under a pass rush. Even better, if not under a rush, if gives D one more coverage scheme to have to think about.
Kelvin Benjamin + Corey Clement each played in a Super Bowl, with Clement winning one with Eagles.
They are two of five tryouts at Giants rookie camp, vying for a roster spot just as Frankie Feaster, who is coming from the opposite end of the spectrum
He’s showing some real leadership by bringing his guys, in the secondary, down to Fla to train. I think our secondary could most definitely be top 5 in the league this year. It is on paper, looking forward to seeing how the whole D comes together with all the new additions, as well.
Tom Couglin ran the ball like that? My biggest gripe under TC/Gilbride was they threw the ball TOO much in situations where the run was the better call.
He’s showing some real leadership by bringing his guys, in the secondary, down to Fla to train. I think our secondary could most definitely be top 5 in the league this year. It is on paper, looking forward to seeing how the whole D comes together with all the new additions, as well.
What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in their meetings right now as they come up with ideas for this season. To see what kind of ideas PG and company are coming up with would be awesome.
He’s showing some real leadership by bringing his guys, in the secondary, down to Fla to train. I think our secondary could most definitely be top 5 in the league this year. It is on paper, looking forward to seeing how the whole D comes together with all the new additions, as well.
In comment 15263845 PatersonPlank said:
Quote: Now, bring that to the offensive side of the ball. Yes, creating one on on matchups on offense is the goal of most but that requires motions and shifts which we do very little of. Also, great OCs run route concepts that are designed to free guys up such as rub routes. We don't run those. Most of our routes are just routes designed to have guys beat their man not have routes designed to put defenders in compromising positions.
robbie, if this is an accurate assessment of Garrett's OC orientation and capabilities, and it sounds quite plausible based on what we've seen thus far, it is a very damning assessment. Like structuring an offensive scheme with one arm tied behind your back.
WR Kadarius Toney
OLB Azeez Ojulari
CB Aaron Robinson
OLB Elerson Smith
RB Gary Brightwell
CB Rodarius Williams
2021 Signed Undrafted Rookie Free Agents (3):
OC/OG Brett Heggie
OT/OG Jake Burton
DE/LB Raymond Johnson
New York Giants First-Year Players (8):
QB Clayton Thorson
RB Jordan Chunn
RB Sandro Platzgummer
WR Derrick Dillon
TE Nakia Griffin-Stewart
TE Nate Wieting
DL David Moa
LB Cale Garrett
Undrafted rookie and veteran tryout players (5):
QB Nathan Rourke (rookie)
RB Corey Clement (4-year veteran)
RB Ito Smith (3-year veteran)
FB Frank Feaster (rookie)
TE Kelvin Benjamin (former 4-year veteran WR working at TE)
He’s showing some real leadership by bringing his guys, in the secondary, down to Fla to train. I think our secondary could most definitely be top 5 in the league this year. It is on paper, looking forward to seeing how the whole D comes together with all the new additions, as well.
Good for him but he should go a step further and advise his mates to tell the union to pound salt and show up for the OTAs.. They need to be coached up together as a unit and with the rest of the defense in NJ, not Florida.
Wiith only 22 players in rookie camp, there wasn't a lot of on-field excitement for the Giants on Day 1 (with the exception of Kadarius Toney's problematic shoe).
Said Joe Judge: "This is really an orientation weekend. This isn’t a competition weekend."
#Giants #Judge - this is just an orientation for the players, every rookie is far behind.....got to get them caught up and they have long way to go....just get them moving around and focus on fundamentals, our systems, how we practice so they know what to do when they get to camp
#Giants #Judge - first impression of the rookie was what we saw on tape before the draft.....now, we just acclimate them to the building and how we do things.....and got to get them in football shape
#Giants #Judge - biggest thing is this is their first day on our field...orientation week...get a look at them physically and see how they do drills, pace, tempo of team activities
Had to stop tweeting midway thru practice so to summarize the cleat saga: Toney went blue cleats/no socks, red cleats/no socks, red cleats/white socks before settling on white cleats/white socks. Was in and out of practice before shutting it down late with an apparent calf cramp.
Had to stop tweeting midway thru practice so to summarize the cleat saga: Toney went blue cleats/no socks, red cleats/no socks, red cleats/white socks before settling on white cleats/white socks. Was in and out of practice before shutting it down late with an apparent calf cramp.
8. It's truly a numbers game at 2021 rookie camp: the Giants' coaches working with the offensive line today (Rob Sale, Ben Wilkerson + consultant Pat Flaherty) outnumbered the actual OL on the field (UDFAs Brett Heggie and Jake Burton).
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge on RB tryouts clement and smith - looking for how they move on the field and interactions with them....thought they did a good job this weekend
Pat Leonard
✔
@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Judge gave no indication of which players he expects to attend voluntary OTAs. Said he will coach whoever is there on the field and whoever isn’t virtually
Jordan Raanan
✔
@JordanRaanan
Kadarius Toney Day 2 update: Seemed to solve cleats issue. Moved well in early potion of practice Saturday before watching the last 20 minutes or so from side.
Joe Judge said it’s “not an injury situation.” Every player is just on a different program. #giants
They drafted Toney in the 1st round, but I'm fine if he's seen as more of a Utility Knife than a pure outside WR. (In today's NFL, an elite Utility Knife is worth a 1st round pick.) But that wouldn't change the fact they still might not be satisfied, outside.
I don't know if they tried, but if a goal was simply a tall WR, I think that Sage Surratt was available to sign after the draft.
Interesting if correct.
Link - ( New Window )
They are two of five tryouts at Giants rookie camp, vying for a roster spot just as Frankie Feaster, who is coming from the opposite end of the spectrum
The shotgun draw should be mentioned here.
What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in their meetings right now as they come up with ideas for this season. To see what kind of ideas PG and company are coming up with would be awesome.
Awesome.
Quote: Now, bring that to the offensive side of the ball. Yes, creating one on on matchups on offense is the goal of most but that requires motions and shifts which we do very little of. Also, great OCs run route concepts that are designed to free guys up such as rub routes. We don't run those. Most of our routes are just routes designed to have guys beat their man not have routes designed to put defenders in compromising positions.
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:55 pm : link : reply
and weights for our two new LBs were adjusted.
Link not working for me - would be interested to see, if you could re-post. Thx.
Quote:
are attendees....
Link not working for me - would be interested to see, if you could re-post. Thx.
I posted as jpeg. If you can't see it, I don't know know why.
WR Kadarius Toney
OLB Azeez Ojulari
CB Aaron Robinson
OLB Elerson Smith
RB Gary Brightwell
CB Rodarius Williams
2021 Signed Undrafted Rookie Free Agents (3):
OC/OG Brett Heggie
OT/OG Jake Burton
DE/LB Raymond Johnson
New York Giants First-Year Players (8):
QB Clayton Thorson
RB Jordan Chunn
RB Sandro Platzgummer
WR Derrick Dillon
TE Nakia Griffin-Stewart
TE Nate Wieting
DL David Moa
LB Cale Garrett
Undrafted rookie and veteran tryout players (5):
QB Nathan Rourke (rookie)
RB Corey Clement (4-year veteran)
RB Ito Smith (3-year veteran)
FB Frank Feaster (rookie)
TE Kelvin Benjamin (former 4-year veteran WR working at TE)
Judge - ( New Window )
Good for him but he should go a step further and advise his mates to tell the union to pound salt and show up for the OTAs.. They need to be coached up together as a unit and with the rest of the defense in NJ, not Florida.
Said Joe Judge: "This is really an orientation weekend. This isn’t a competition weekend."
#Giants #Judge - first impression of the rookie was what we saw on tape before the draft.....now, we just acclimate them to the building and how we do things.....and got to get them in football shape
#Giants #Judge - biggest thing is this is their first day on our field...orientation week...get a look at them physically and see how they do drills, pace, tempo of team activities
Quote:
Had to stop tweeting midway thru practice so to summarize the cleat saga: Toney went blue cleats/no socks, red cleats/no socks, red cleats/white socks before settling on white cleats/white socks. Was in and out of practice before shutting it down late with an apparent calf cramp.
classic giants rookie wr camp lol
I'd imagine one of them gets signed to the #NYGiants 90-man roster by the end of the weekend. We'll see.
Exactly.
Jeez. Benjamin seems like a moron. That's high school shit.
Shades of Julius Edelman, another QB from a small school in Ohio...
@Dan_Salomone
Joe Judge said they will play to Kadarius Toney's strengths, so some of the offense will resemble Florida's.
✔
@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said he “fully intends” Nate Ebner to be a member of the #Giants once he’s done training for rugby.
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge on RB tryouts clement and smith - looking for how they move on the field and interactions with them....thought they did a good job this weekend
✔
@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Judge gave no indication of which players he expects to attend voluntary OTAs. Said he will coach whoever is there on the field and whoever isn’t virtually
✔
@JordanRaanan
Kadarius Toney Day 2 update: Seemed to solve cleats issue. Moved well in early potion of practice Saturday before watching the last 20 minutes or so from side.
Joe Judge said it’s “not an injury situation.” Every player is just on a different program. #giants