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So who thinks Kelvin Benjamin is given a contract by Giants?

CMicks3110 : 5/14/2021 7:23 pm
at the end of the weekend?

I see no reason not to if he is committed to his craft.
I hope they do  
eric2425ny : 5/14/2021 7:26 pm : link
Side note, and not directed at you, but I personally hate when people use “craft” when talking about sports, etc. They aren’t painting or making wooden furniture, etc.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine lol.
One  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2021 7:28 pm : link
of the reporters said today that he looked like a player who hasn't played in years.

On the other hand, the two vet running backs supposedly looked pretty good.

That  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2021 7:35 pm : link
said, you can easily see the Giants replacing one of the bottom tier tight ends and running backs with one of the new guys.

There were two 1st year TEs in camp today. Benjamin could show more upside than one of those two. Same with the RBs.
RE: One  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2021 7:36 pm : link
In comment 15264404 Eric from BBI said:
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of the reporters said today that he looked like a player who hasn't played in years.

On the other hand, the two vet running backs supposedly looked pretty good.


Well, he hasn't played in years no? I don't even remember the last time I saw him on the field. 2017?
No  
Giant John : 5/14/2021 9:05 pm : link
I don’t believe he gets another chance.
Maybe a contract for team cook  
PatersonPlank : 5/14/2021 9:10 pm : link
.
Who was the second  
Mark from Jersey : 5/14/2021 9:11 pm : link
vet running back? I know the one was the former Eagle Clement.
Is he better than Engram or Rudolph? No.  
BH28 : 5/14/2021 9:15 pm : link
Is he going to replace a third TE who is probably on the roster for blocking? Probably not.

Is he better than our top four WRs? No. Is he going to replace a 5th or 6th WR who also plays specials? Probably not.

I don't see him getting a contract based off of that.
If they sign Benjamin  
Ned In Atlanta : 5/14/2021 9:23 pm : link
With the tight ends currently on the roster that means DG has more sway than the majority of this forum hoped
Benji, Engram, Rudolph green zone special!  
Kev in Cali : 5/14/2021 9:27 pm : link
: )
Vet min contract incoming  
monstercoo : 5/14/2021 9:39 pm : link
I'm picturing this signing happening. When you design a significant portion of your playbook around having a quick receiving tight end, it'd probably be nice to have a backup in case EE gets injured/traded.
The reason not to is  
JonC : 5/14/2021 9:52 pm : link
he's likely shot.
RE: Who was the second  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2021 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15264476 Mark from Jersey said:
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vet running back? I know the one was the former Eagle Clement.


Ito Smith

FYI, see pinned thread.
RE: Is he better than Engram or Rudolph? No.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2021 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15264483 BH28 said:
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Is he going to replace a third TE who is probably on the roster for blocking? Probably not.

Is he better than our top four WRs? No. Is he going to replace a 5th or 6th WR who also plays specials? Probably not.

I don't see him getting a contract based off of that.


For the 90, he doesn't need to beat out those guys. He needs to beat out Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Nate Wieting, Cole Hikutini, or Rysen John.
This is judge thing as much as a DG thing  
SteelGiant : 5/14/2021 10:39 pm : link
Patriot thing to do, bring a retread at a different position than their original position and see what they can do.

You can never find a diamond if never try to dig.

The guy is probably cooked, but what if blocks better than Engram and Smith? Smith looked really bad last year too.

At the very least I think this sends a message to the TE group. Judge is basically saying your group played so pourly that we signed already surgically injured veteran TE and also brought in an overweight WR to try to convert put pressure on you. That should be embarrassing to them that the staff think that is competition for them.
He's been out of the league for 3 years  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2021 10:48 pm : link
and when he was in it, he wasn't any good.

If he makes the team it's on special teams, and he's never been that kind of effort player.
Real long shot  
allstarjim : 5/14/2021 11:02 pm : link
I think they like Kaden Smith more as a third TE, and Levine Toilolo has a big edge as a blocker, which is what you need there. And Levine is also on the bubble as you think how Elijah Penny has a good chance to make the team, so it really comes down to a numbers crunch.
Mostly I like that the Giants are willing to look into it  
USAF NYG Fan : 5/15/2021 4:20 am : link
which proves they are ready to try whatever it takes to improve.

That being said, I do worry about his drive/motivation. He could have been really special.

I just watched the rookie mini-camp day 1 video put out by the Giants and I paid attention to the Coach's interaction with him. Looked like he was coaching him about 'high and tight' and then they walked away with Judge looking somewhat annoyed. Kind of like he expected better from a veteran player.

I am very likely reading too much into that but still thought it was worth noting. He's a talented player and the effort he puts into this is what tells me he's serious and motivated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Tsqby9g2s&t=175s - ( New Window )
Popeyes biscuit  
Bear vs Shark : 5/15/2021 4:57 am : link
Sorry, couldn't help myself
RE: Mostly I like that the Giants are willing to look into it  
USAF NYG Fan : 5/15/2021 5:26 am : link
In comment 15264573 USAF NYG Fan said:
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which proves they are ready to try whatever it takes to improve.

That being said, I do worry about his drive/motivation. He could have been really special.

I just watched the rookie mini-camp day 1 video put out by the Giants and I paid attention to the Coach's interaction with him. Looked like he was coaching him about 'high and tight' and then they walked away with Judge looking somewhat annoyed. Kind of like he expected better from a veteran player.

I am very likely reading too much into that but still thought it was worth noting. He's a talented player and the effort he puts into this is what tells me he's serious and motivated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Tsqby9g2s&t=175s - ( New Window )


Yea I'm replying to my own thread. Watched another video which I thought showed a different angle. It's not. Maybe that's why Judge looked annoyed teaching basics.

https://youtu.be/H6ofiAyp-1g?t=127 - ( New Window )
I'm  
Semipro Lineman : 5/15/2021 6:53 am : link
sorry gentlemen but there is no way you can determined what Judge was thinking based on his body language in those clips. I think we're reading too much into this
Judge carries the Belichick  
section125 : 5/15/2021 7:01 am : link
scowl almost all the time. Parcells was not much different. Just his M.O.
The fact  
SleepyOwl : 5/15/2021 9:09 am : link
That Judge gave him individual attention speaks more to this guy sticking around than not.
Benjamin probably gets signed....making final roster  
George from PA : 5/15/2021 9:37 am : link
Will be tougher....must prove he is a Red Zone/3rd down target...

the Giants can throw alot of options at teams in the Red Zone.

....which once again, will depend of the OL and Daniel Jones.
RE: Benjamin probably gets signed....making final roster  
bLiTz 2k : 5/15/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15264640 George from PA said:
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Will be tougher....must prove he is a Red Zone/3rd down target...

the Giants can throw alot of options at teams in the Red Zone.

....which once again, will depend of the OL and Daniel Jones.


If he makes the 53 it'd likely be at the expense of Kaden Smith, Toilolo, Ross, Pettis, Austin Mack, or even Eli Penny. Id be shocked.
Because  
Breeze_94 : 5/15/2021 10:58 am : link
He’s 30, hasn’t been an impact player in 4 years, and is lucky if he runs under a 4.9 at this point.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of the backs- Ito Smith of Clement, get a contract. I like Smith , very good RB3.
Judge has a plan. Maybe it’s a good plan. Maybe not.  
Marty in Albany : 5/15/2021 3:01 pm : link
What seems very certain to me is that Judge will be able to tell almost immediately if KB fits into that plan. I’ll trust Judge’s decision.
My  
jtfuoco : 5/15/2021 5:34 pm : link
Question is why didn't he try out for the team last year when they had almost nothing out there at the WR and TE positions. After all the talent they being in to try out now seems dumb.
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