Found this interesting. Urban Meyer coveted Toney in the draft before the Giants picked him. Instead the Jags took RB Travis Etienne. One could say they are similar players at different positions. Toney was called the most elusive WR in the class (39% forced missed tackle rate) by PFF. Etienne had the most career missed tackles forced on runs in the 2021 Draft class. Etienne was a productive receiver in college with 102 career receptions. Toney had 120. Etienne and Toney were two of only nine college players that over the last four seasons had 60+ rush attempts and 100+ receptions.
The Saints were also looking for an explosive player and selected WR Kawaan Baker in the 7th round. Baker was also one of the nine players (rushes/receptions) on the list. Baker averaged 7.1 YAC per reception for his college career. He forced 16 missed tackles on 51 catches in 2020.Interesting group of utility players.
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Less common now but may be a very good idea for the Jags.
As we know from JJ, a flexible player you can scheme with (e.g. between RB and WR) for specific game plans is valuable.
This may just be an evaluation of skills or a tryout for a "flex" player.
Most of them have lettered in three or more sports in High School and College.
What's the big deal if coaches try them out at more than one position on the team?
I'd love to see the Giants do the same with Barkley.
I'd love to see the Giants do the same with Barkley.
Agree. CC, Jason Garrett.
RE: Barkley, I think trying to make him a traditional RB is a mistake, because he's not. He's a player you scheme to get out into space.
RE: Barkley, I think trying to make him a traditional RB is a mistake, because he's not. He's a player you scheme to get out into space.
If they continue to use him as they have, the Giants would be nuts to pay Barkley a second contract. Get him out of the backfield and use him primarily as a receiver? Changes the story entirely.
A player with his ability in the open field shouldn't be averaging 5 yards a touch. It's a waste.
I want to see more passes thrown. 600+ for the season.
I want to see more passes thrown. 600+ for the season.
If the team is playing sound football on both sides of the ball I am hopeful they run closer to 30 carries a game. I mean you can essentially sub out run plays for short passes which to me is the same thing.
I want to see more passes thrown. 600+ for the season.
I want to see whatever is working and not being a numbers whore.
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They ran 399 times last year (just under 25 per game) in a year they wanted to run the ball to hide the quarterback and pass blocking.
I want to see more passes thrown. 600+ for the season.
I want to see whatever is working and not being a numbers whore.
In today's NFL that's what works.
My favorite team ever is the 90 Giants. I loved running the football, playing defense, dominating the clock, wearing opponents down and making them quit...but it's not 1990 anymore.
The four conference finalists were all outstanding passing teams who led the league in touchdown passes. They were not great running teams nor were they great defensive teams. They were great passing teams. That's what wins in the NFL.
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They ran 399 times last year (just under 25 per game) in a year they wanted to run the ball to hide the quarterback and pass blocking.
I want to see more passes thrown. 600+ for the season.
I want to see whatever is working and not being a numbers whore.
In today's NFL that's what works.
My favorite team ever is the 90 Giants. I loved running the football, playing defense, dominating the clock, wearing opponents down and making them quit...but it's not 1990 anymore.
The four conference finalists were all outstanding passing teams who led the league in touchdown passes. They were not great running teams nor were they great defensive teams. They were great passing teams. That's what wins in the NFL.
What works for other teams may not work for us. Tennessee and Baltimore are more run oriented teams.
Jones is still a young QB. If he shows he belongs you put more on him as the season/career progresses. Some outliers, but many QB's have followed this model.
You have regular season football and then playoff football. The vast majority of times the physical nature of the game wins. There is still value in obtaining a high number of rushing attempts particularly late in the season in the NE.
If we go against a team that is awful against the run, I want to be able to line up with 2 TEs and run it until they can stop it. If a team is bad against the pass, I want to be able to go 4 and 5 wide including Barkley split out and win that way.
I want to have a team when they are down can throw to come back and when they are ahead, run out the game.
The way we are constructed with the players we have, we are really moving in that direction. It will be on Garrett to make it happen.
It is one thing about Judge that I hoped would come from his New England times. Living in Mass, I watched a lot of games and it was always interesting the approach per game. They would take a player one game and have him start and be the focus, and the next game that player may get a few snaps.
RE: Barkley, I think trying to make him a traditional RB is a mistake, because he's not. He's a player you scheme to get out into space.
All we heard about saquon was that he wasn’t just a running back, that he was a weapon, would get him in space blah blah...then for three years we ran him up the middle into 280 pound DTs.
Can’t agree more with the post. He needs to be schemed open and used as a weapon, not OJ Anderson