NFT: KNICKS VS CELTICS - Time to clinch HC / 4th seed

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Man, Fizdale was fuckin brutal as a HC. This is basically the same team as last year.

In comment 15265135 robbieballs2003 said:

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Man, Fizdale was fuckin brutal as a HC. This is basically the same team as last year.

Yeah but he’s bros with all the big stars who were going to come as free agents!

But Thibs, imo, should win coach of the year.

In comment 15265135 robbieballs2003 said:

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Man, Fizdale was fuckin brutal as a HC. This is basically the same team as last year.

True, but to be fair, he didn’t have Derrick Rose off the bench, or Emmanuel Quickley, this version or Julius Randle and RJ Barrett took a leap forward this season. Thibs had a lot to do with Barrett’ improvement but Randle did a lot of on his own.

In comment 15265139 robbieballs2003 said:

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But Thibs, imo, should win coach of the year.

I fear he won't but I agree.

but I caught all of these induction speeches last night and they were all great from Vanessa Bryant, KG and Duncan.

The height of NBA greatness IMO was from 1980 through 2000. Obviously these guys were doing great things well beyond 2000 but they were all established by then.

In fact, I often think about who would be the next 25 greatest players since they did the top 75 players for the 75th anniversary. Needless to say these 3 are all there. All 3 of them were awesome.

Last year's Barrett was not an effective starter. Last year's Randle wasn't a star, just a pretty good journeyman power forward. There was no Quickly, there was no Rose, there was no Burks. Bullock wasn't nearly the player he is now, because he didn't have this year's Randle or Rose around to get him open 3's.

No doubt the defensive passion is much greater this year, but other comparisons are tough to make.

F9r taking the long term approach. Overpaying someone like Heyward would have been brutal. They kept their picks. They have a ton of cap room. Mission accomplished. I remember saying that a few things had to happen this season. One, the culture needed to change. So far so good. They needed to start winning. Check. One full season of doing things the right way has drastically changed the outlook of this franchise.

In comment 15265158 manh george said:

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Last year's Barrett was not an effective starter. Last year's Randle wasn't a star, just a pretty good journeyman power forward. There was no Quickly, there was no Rose, there was no Burks. Bullock wasn't nearly the player he is now, because he didn't have this year's Randle or Rose around to get him open 3's. No doubt the defensive passion is much greater this year, but other comparisons are tough to make.

But you also have to give credit to Thibs for where they are and actually holding players accountable as opposed to just saying it. Yes, Randle and Barrett improved and we got Rose. But is that the difference between one of the worst teams in the league and 4th in the east? The point is that Fizdale was a horrendous coach. Plain and simple.

but it is so much easier to hold a player accountable when a quality alternative exists on the roster, or available in a trade. The Knicks had almost none of that last year. And you need to add Burks to the list of improvements--he has been close to a league best 6th man at times when healthy.

But yeah, Fiz wasn't much.

In comment 15265139 robbieballs2003 said:

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But Thibs, imo, should win coach of the year.

they are going to give it to Monty

Wrap it up today! Put a bow on this season with a nice whipping of Boston, at msg.

Boston or us? Can’t check working

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Boston or us? Can’t check working

All of the starters for the Celtics.


Jayson Tatum (Ankle) - OUT
Tristan Thompson (Pec) - OUT
Kemba Walker (knee) - OUT
Robert Williams (Toe) - OUT
Evan Fournier (Knee) - OUT
Marcus Smart (Calf) - OUT

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In comment 15265180 Carl in CT said: Quote: Boston or us? Can’t check working All of the starters for the Celtics. Jayson Tatum (Ankle) - OUT Tristan Thompson (Pec) - OUT Kemba Walker (knee) - OUT Robert Williams (Toe) - OUT Evan Fournier (Knee) - OUT Marcus Smart (Calf) - OUT

Honestly, if the Knicks lose today's game, they should just concede from the Playoffs.

Suit up for Cs today.

In comment 15265184 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Suit up for Cs today.

The Celtics are playing only 10 players. If we lose to someone like Luke fucking Kornet, I give up.

Anak-with so much of the line-I think we show up big time.

In comment 15265188 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Anak-with so much of the line-I think we show up big time.

We could show up at 25% and still beat them. No reason this shouldn't be an absolute slaughter.

Kobe, Duncan, & KG are top 30 all time for sure. I'd rank them in this order, 1) Duncan, 2) Kobe, & 3) KG. I know others will put Kobe > Duncan, but I'm taking Tim. I think people underrate him because 1) he made Bavaro seem loquacious, 2) the Spurs were (are?) perceived as boring, & 3) San Antonio is a great place, but it's a small market, especially compared to LA.

As for KG, it's a shame he squandered so much of his career in that NBA wasteland that is Minnesota. He was so damn good. I'm not a fan of his, but he was a helluva player & someone who intimidated me watching him from a bar stool. He was one intense MFer. He was also pretty good in Uncut Gems, Haha.

Elfrid, RJ, Bullock, JR, & Noel starting 5.

In comment 15265197 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Elfrid, RJ, Bullock, JR, & Noel starting 5.

Even Elfrid should dominate today's game

We gotta jump them from go.

Still the worst player on the floor.

Playing? Jesus!

God...Elfrid sucks.

A net negative.

but earlier in the season he’d at least give you a little scoring burst every few games. Now he’s completely useless.

for the love of fucking god

he is playing erratic because his playing time has been diminished.

No, his playing time has been diminished and really should be benched completely because his play has been erratic in the 1st place .

This guys sucks major ass

I hope we've seen the last of Elf for awhile.

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Wake up guys.

Nets had this same issue with Jordan and he has 2+ years left on his contract and they benched him because he was hurting the team.

Then you have Payton who is a FA and will not be back next season yet they still insist on starting him . Makes no damn sense

with 12 Elf-free minutes this quarter.

what a joke

1 second on the shot clock why the hell are you fouling??

team is playing stupid

making this much harder than it should be

This is WAY too close.

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FINALLY waking up.

The Eraser

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Up 15 at the break. Survive Elf’s five minutes and we’re good.

Great finish to second half. Needed that.

* second quarter.

now put them away to start 3rd

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Would be nice to make it up 30 and empty the bench so the end of roster guys can have some fun...but we all know how unlikely that it with Thibs

It's a shame he can't get more minutes because he is stuck behind Randle. They might have to trade him to maximize his value

Randle was about to have a wide open shot jn the paint and Payton cut right into him

It's too funny. You just have to laugh.

Payton...JFC.

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It's too funny. You just have to laugh.

I laughed out loud watching that sequence of possessions. He’s a debacle at this point

He sucks, but I also think his confidence is shot. He wasn't THIS bad earlier in the season.

get up a little bit and then let the other creep back in

The offense literally does not run when he's out there

You just can't start each half with Payton and expect to win against really good teams in tough environments . This is my biggest worry going into the playoffs

The offense becomes completely inefficient when Payton is on the floor

Thibs is going to have to mix this up; Elfrid is killing us. We won't survive this come next week.

because of this jackass, if the celtics had anyone good this would be a tie game right now

There's no way he can be any worse

and Payton’s defender immediately leaves him to swarm Randle on a double team. Absolutely no respect for an NBA player.

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There's no way he can be any worse

You don't need Vildoza.

Burks and Quickley just play them more minutes and problem is solved. The answer is so simple and everyone sees the problem from the fans to the media but Thibs

the floor compared to Rose. It's like night and day.

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the floor compared to Rose. It's like night and day.

Heck, Alec Burks isn't even a point guard and he runs the offense better than Payton, who apparently is a PG

Is the only point guard that seldom gets assists

if he starts Payton in the playoffs and the team loses in the 1st round. The fans and media are going to go after him and rightfully so

already 14 points in the 3rd quarter

Why are they letting him go off

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Hahahaha!

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Please do not let them rally back

When he moves the ball and passes out of double teams his play and the overall teams play goes to the next level. When he just holds the ball and forces up shots the offense crawls to a standstill

who plays so damn hadd and such great defense let up so much when they get up 15 or more

But damn we don't like to just put teams away

this is ridiculous

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Celtics cut the lead to 6 with their D-league team

now a 6 point game because you get lazy and think thegame is over..

This happens way too often with this team

make everything so damn difficult for no reason, theo pinson should be in the game right now..

Close the damn thing out already.
This is embarrassing.

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and they are getting swept by milwaukee..

Can we get Rose back in?

On.

and now barely touches the ball all 4th quarter

great offensively today but defensively he has been trash

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and the starters are in street clothes laughing it up.

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This is way too close.

Nice block.

Reminds me of his rookie season

that was a real double team

best player has come up small when you need him most, this shit wont fly in the playoffs..

Team playing like they could juat roll the ball out and win, absolute trash performance win or lose

Now they have to foul. Knicks get fortunate there

Team needs to play MUCH better next week.

FT.

Ugly...ugly win.

Thank goodness the Knicks weren't playing the full Celtics team, they clinch home court advantage. Much harder than it needed to be!

much needed 5 days rest before game 1 because this team played with zero eneegy today

Or it's going to be a quick playoff bounce out.

Far from their best. Just win baby! They won the three in a row to get to the four.

Time to move on to ATL and some rest.
This team is tired and battle test.
Let's do some damage in the Playoffs!

But it's hard to be in a celebratory mood after that near atrocity lol

Ball fakes. Getting guys off their feet. Not really a great athlete but just a fundamentally sound player

in 5 or 6 days.

Assuming the Nets win, the Bucks will play the Heat, the Nets will play the winner of Boston/Washington, and the Sixers will play the 8 seed after the play in

Washington beats Charlotte and gets the 8th seed. They will play Boston. Indiana plays Charlotte in the 9 vs. 10 eliminator.

In comment 15265340 nygiants16 said:

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best player has come up small when you need him most, this shit wont fly in the playoffs.. Team playing like they could juat roll the ball out and win, absolute trash performance win or lose

NY16
You gotta relax this is Knicks basketball, nothing easy.
Knicks had one of the toughest schedules in the league and won 41 games.
Thibs has 5 days to get ready for ATL and the team will get some rest.
It's been a long season, they have played a ton of minutes.

and get the 7 seed to most likely play the Nets

OT win back to back 1p games. I'm not too concerned with today's performance. Some of you guys need to relax. Some Chicken Little shit going on. They played poorly and still won wire to wire.

In comment 15265340 nygiants16 said:

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best player has come up small when you need him most, this shit wont fly in the playoffs.. Team playing like they could juat roll the ball out and win, absolute trash performance win or lose

Take it down several notches. The man is exhausted. They all were.

They’ll have ample rest between now and game 1.

happens from this point I'm proud of this team and the way they worked hard and became better players and a better team. And they're a pretty young team, so the future is bright.

In comment 15265356 dpinzow said:

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and get the 7 seed to most likely play the Nets

If i am the nets id be nervous about that, nets still win but the Wizarss have played mich better and with Beal and Westbrook anything can happen

but the constant giving up leads is infuriating..

anyway lets goo bring on the Hawks

So hornets play Washington
Celtics play Indiana.

Atlanta is locked in the 5
Miami is the 6.

Playoff match ups set

Now the fun starts

#LFGK!!!!

In comment 15265340 nygiants16 said:

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best player has come up small when you need him most, this shit wont fly in the playoffs.. Team playing like they could juat roll the ball out and win, absolute trash performance win or lose

The guy has to be playing on fumes. Now he will have the little time to get his body some much needed rest. He will be ready for the start of the playoffs. This team wouldn’t be anywhere without him, and even when gassed and playing poorly he often leads the team in most key stats for the game.

I love the Knicks chances to win the first round at least.

Dubs here.

In comment 15265363 larryflower37 said:

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So hornets play Washington Celtics play Indiana. Atlanta is locked in the 5 Miami is the 6. Playoff match ups set Now the fun starts #LFGK!!!!

Hornets play the Pacers
Wizards play the Celtics. I think the Wizards got up to the 8th seed with that win

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In comment 15265340 nygiants16 said: Quote: best player has come up small when you need him most, this shit wont fly in the playoffs.. Team playing like they could juat roll the ball out and win, absolute trash performance win or lose The guy has to be playing on fumes. Now he will have the little time to get his body some much needed rest. He will be ready for the start of the playoffs. This team wouldn’t be anywhere without him, and even when gassed and playing poorly he often leads the team in most key stats for the game. I love the Knicks chances to win the first round at least.

agreed 100% but today he wasnt very good..

the 5 daya rest will be very good for this team, intrested to see if they start saturday night or sunday afternoon

And some days off to recharge.

I would bet Sunday afternoon.

In comment 15265370 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I would bet Sunday afternoon.

yeah thats what i am thinking to

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and the west every matchup should be fun

In comment 15265374 nygiants16 said:

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and the west every matchup should be fun

I am taking Heat. Prove me wrong Milwaukee.

We beat them twice early when they were struggling, and a third time because Young sprained his ankle in the second half, but I like our chances. Should be fun!

The playoffs are going to be awesome.

In comment 15265357 Bricktop said:

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OT win back to back 1p games. I'm not too concerned with today's performance. Some of you guys need to relax. Some Chicken Little shit going on. They played poorly and still won wire to wire.

Y’all should listen to bricktop here. Knicks have played a ton the last 2 weeks...6 game west coast trip, followed by 3 in 4 days to close the regular season this weekend, none of which were games they could take their foot off the pedal.

They got gassed in the 4th, but their best players still made enough plays to close it out. Nothing to lose our shit over

Let’s step back and appreciate the moment here...Knicks just finished 41-31, #4 seed in the playoffs, in a funky season that included a lot of games crammed into a short schedule. However long a run we manage, we’re no doubt a team nobody wants to play. Fucking amazing, considering what Knicks basketball has been for 20 years!!!

In comment 15265377 bceagle05 said:

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We beat them twice early when they were struggling, and a third time because Young sprained his ankle in the second half, but I like our chances. Should be fun!

Have to be physical with Trae, yeah they are going to call some fouls but cant let him just do whatever he wanta..

have to stay out on bogdanavich, he is the one giy you dont relax off of..

In comment 15265366 dpinzow said:

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In comment 15265363 larryflower37 said: Quote: So hornets play Washington Celtics play Indiana. Atlanta is locked in the 5 Miami is the 6. Playoff match ups set Now the fun starts #LFGK!!!! Hornets play the Pacers Wizards play the Celtics. I think the Wizards got up to the 8th seed with that win

You are right ESPN is slow on the jump.

mfsd...awesome season. I sure as hell didn't see it coming. Now let's go fuck up Trae & the Hawks.

(Already mentally prepping for losing my mind over calls Young will get.)

In comment 15265383 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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mfsd...awesome season. I sure as hell didn't see it coming. Now let's go fuck up Trae & the Hawks. (Already mentally prepping for losing my mind over calls Young will get.)

Haha no doubt re: Trae

Crazy to think the Knicks had to go like 16-4 or so to get this 4 seed. And they did.

Now we get to sit back and relax while the lesser slobs battle it out in the play in round. Enjoy.

Crazy to think the Knicks had to go like 16-4 or so to get this 4 seed. And they did.

Now we get to sit back and relax while the lesser slobs battle it out in the play in round. Enjoy.

In comment 15265379 mfsd said:

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In comment 15265357 Bricktop said: Quote: OT win back to back 1p games. I'm not too concerned with today's performance. Some of you guys need to relax. Some Chicken Little shit going on. They played poorly and still won wire to wire. Y’all should listen to bricktop here. Knicks have played a ton the last 2 weeks...6 game west coast trip, followed by 3 in 4 days to close the regular season this weekend, none of which were games they could take their foot off the pedal. They got gassed in the 4th, but their best players still made enough plays to close it out. Nothing to lose our shit over Let’s step back and appreciate the moment here...Knicks just finished 41-31, #4 seed in the playoffs, in a funky season that included a lot of games crammed into a short schedule. However long a run we manage, we’re no doubt a team nobody wants to play. Fucking amazing, considering what Knicks basketball has been for 20 years!!!

There's no need for posts like this. There's not a die hard in here that is deliriously proud of this team and excited for the playoffs. In the heat of the moment sure we post stuff. I put an lol at the end of mine. Hard to watch the last 6 minutes of that game and not be upset in the moment. Of course now 30 minutes later were happy as can be. As for B, he's a great poster but he's has his share of angry posts in game threads for all the teams too ha ha.

I would take Wiz over Cs right now.

Tibbs deserves Coach of the Year, Randle deserves Most Improved, and Rose deserves the Sixth Man award

I would love if Thibs won COY but I think Monty Williams wins it. Randle definitely wins MIP.

In the east coming into the 2nd half of the season.
At .515

I love Curry. Helluva player. Wins NBA Scoring Title.

In comment 15265390 Stu11 said:

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In comment 15265379 mfsd said: Quote: In comment 15265357 Bricktop said: Quote: OT win back to back 1p games. I'm not too concerned with today's performance. Some of you guys need to relax. Some Chicken Little shit going on. They played poorly and still won wire to wire. Y’all should listen to bricktop here. Knicks have played a ton the last 2 weeks...6 game west coast trip, followed by 3 in 4 days to close the regular season this weekend, none of which were games they could take their foot off the pedal. They got gassed in the 4th, but their best players still made enough plays to close it out. Nothing to lose our shit over Let’s step back and appreciate the moment here...Knicks just finished 41-31, #4 seed in the playoffs, in a funky season that included a lot of games crammed into a short schedule. However long a run we manage, we’re no doubt a team nobody wants to play. Fucking amazing, considering what Knicks basketball has been for 20 years!!! There's no need for posts like this. There's not a die hard in here that is deliriously proud of this team and excited for the playoffs. In the heat of the moment sure we post stuff. I put an lol at the end of mine. Hard to watch the last 6 minutes of that game and not be upset in the moment. Of course now 30 minutes later were happy as can be. As for B, he's a great poster but he's has his share of angry posts in game threads for all the teams too ha ha.

All fair man...wasn’t directed at you or anyone personally, more of a general let’s chill and enjoy the moment. You’re right, game threads are for venting emotions as much as anything.

My point was, considering how tough the home stretch schedule was, I’m not surprised they looked worn out today, but they still took care of business the last 3 games, even if it wasn’t pretty.

On to the playoffs, let’s go Knicks!!

In comment 15265356 dpinzow said:

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and get the 7 seed to most likely play the Nets

Celtics fan here. I actually think it would be best if they did. But this Celtics team is liable to find the defense energy they ve been lacking all season, bubble team fatigue, in a play in game.

WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.

In comment 15265424 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.

they are doing eastern conference tuesday on tnt and western conference wednesday on eapn

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WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.

First game is 6:30 really can't start it much earlier.
Probably lose most of the west coast fans already for the first game.

Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha.

Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.

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Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha. Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.

Trying to finish before olympics

UFB.

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In comment 15265434 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha. Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams. Trying to finish before olympics

I get it. I just hate that Cs Wiz starts at 9 fucking PM on a workday.

this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..

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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..

Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels.

you know that even if Denver sits like Jokic and porter they will somehow beat the blazers and the lakers will get to avoid the play in game, lol.

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In comment 15265441 nygiants16 said: Quote: this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff.. Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels.

Njggets limiting their starters

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In comment 15265443 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: In comment 15265441 nygiants16 said: Quote: this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff.. Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels. Njggets limiting their starters

Excellent.

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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..

That only matters if the Lakers definitely want to play the two seed. There’s no way the Lakers would lose to the 9-10 winner though.

Even if LAL end up in play in tourney, NBA will do whatever they can to get them in playoffs. Let's be serious.

Trae Young has infinite range
Bogdanovic, Hunter and Huerter are sharpshooters
Capela is a beast on the boards

Hawks vs. Knicks should be really interesting. It could go either way. I get the feeling that D Rose is going to have a memorable performance or two in these playoffs, hopefully that's the case.

Warriors vs. either the Lakers or Blazers in the play-ins will be awesome to watch.

I really hope the Wizards beat the Celtics so we see Wizards vs. Nets in the 1st round. That would be a fun series.

Thanks.

I feel good vs. Hawks, though I know Trae will be treated by the refs circa MJ '97.

Rooting for Nuggets or Suns to come out of the West. I hate Utah, Lakers, & Clippers.

Are gonna tolerate quite as much of Trae’s bullshit flopping when the playoffs start, and I think he’s going to be massively surprised he can’t just get touched and fall down and end up at the line. I could even (hopefully) see it being a point of frustration that will get to him and Hawks.

They have barely any playoffs experience so i think they are a perfect matchup for us in round 1. The Heat have a whole recent Finals run-worth of playoff experience and the Bucks have a ton of playoff experience as well so I think this was best case scenario for us in round 1.

Hawks will be tough but any 1st round matchup is going to be tough when you’re right smack in the middle of the bracket.

Yes the Hawks can get hot from 3 but so can we. And The great thing about a 7 game series is you have to stay hot enough the whole series to beat a team better than you, and that rarely happens unless we’re talking about a REALLY good 3 point shooting team like the Warriors teams of past for instance. I’d rather play out our odds in a 7 game series against a team like the hawks that needs to rely on help from the refs and getting lucky from 3 (and who we beat 3 times this season) rather than a team versatile and confident and experienced Miami team who beat US 3 times. We struggle against very good bigs and that type of thing has a higher probability of beating you in a 7 game series than a team who can simply get hot from 3.

if the Hawks can speed up the game, usually in the playoffa games are slower, grind it out type of games. Hawks do not like playing slugfests, they do not have the personnel for it..

Knicks have played that style all season, they are going to wear on you and grind out games, they are used to this style..

If the refs let the Knicks play physical they will have the advantage, if they dont Hawks will..

But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.

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But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.

This will be the key to the series, are they going to let the Knicks be physical or they going to call every little contact..

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But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.

You forgot the most annoying thing about having to watch Young. His hair. That shit is a frizzled mess. And makes him even more punchable than he already is, if that’s possible

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In comment 15265508 Bricktop said: Quote: But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball. You forgot the most annoying thing about having to watch Young. His hair. That shit is a frizzled mess. And makes him even more punchable than he already is, if that’s possible

Dude needs to be on the horn with Ron Popeil, stat. I mean it looks like something that should be on a monkey's balls.

the "big15", For someone who said the Knicks werent cool you sure like copying what they say

Bobby Marks
@BobbyMarks42

Ties that will need to get broken

4. CLE/OKC

8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC

11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in)

19. NYK/ATL

21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL)

25. LAC/DEN



So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick

Lakers vs GS in the 7/8 game.
Media dream.
I am sure the sun's are hoping GS pulls the upset.

Lose to GS and then win the second game to become the 8th seed and the jazz are stuck playing the best team in the west as the #1 seed.

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Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 Ties that will need to get broken 4. CLE/OKC 8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC 11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in) 19. NYK/ATL 21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL) 25. LAC/DEN So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick

Bitter sweet in a deep draft.
Maybe Josh Giddy at 20?

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Lose to GS and then win the second game to become the 8th seed and the jazz are stuck playing the best team in the west as the #1 seed.

It's funny Lakers will be favorite against either the Suns or the jazz

Hey just curious if anyone knows the draft values for picks. Let’s assume knicks end up with 20,22 and they will have 32 from Pistons. If they packaged all 3 of those together how far up can they move, probably not top 10, maybe somewhere in 12-15 range.

Obi, Mitch and the 3 picks to Toronto or Sacramento. I know the playoffs should be the focus but I’m just curious if Suggs was sitting there at 5 or 6 do they have the ammo to get him

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Hey just curious if anyone knows the draft values for picks. Let’s assume knicks end up with 20,22 and they will have 32 from Pistons. If they packaged all 3 of those together how far up can they move, probably not top 10, maybe somewhere in 12-15 range.

It will be interesting if the knicks try and trade pre draft to get a star.
I would try and trade one for a pick in 2022.
Kick it down the road to buy some time

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Obi, Mitch and the 3 picks to Toronto or Sacramento. I know the playoffs should be the focus but I’m just curious if Suggs was sitting there at 5 or 6 do they have the ammo to get him

Most teams are not looking to add 3 rookies at once.

Will be available this off season
Got 2 years 60 million left on his deal.
Would Thibs make that trade again?

but either way a top 5 picking team is not trading that pick for 2 late firsts, a second, obi and mitch. I think the idea that the two firsts could maybe move you close to 10, although at that point i dont think its worth it. I could see moving maybe one of the firsts and the second to move up like 5 spots if there is a guy they love.

I do think its more likely that we trade 1 or 2 of our top 3 picks this year. Either in a deal to move up or for a vet, or even future firsts or seconds. This roster doesnt really have room for 3 rookies, plus you might take 3 rookies that dont get any time on the court, not ideal.

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Trae Young has infinite range Bogdanovic, Hunter and Huerter are sharpshooters Capela is a beast on the boards

I'd be happy to have Trae take the long 3's. The key is keeping him out of the paint. The 2 guys who worry me the most are Bogdanovic who's absolutely been on fire for 6 weeks now and Capela because great offensive rebounding bigs give us fits. I do agree that the usual slower pace of playoff games would give us a big advantage.

They probably draw the Lakers round 1.

When does schedule come out?

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They probably draw the Lakers round 1.

I agree that it would be nice to see Phoenix win, generally a likable group of players, but a round 1 exit likely leads to more volatility and both Paul and Booker are guys that have been rumored with the Knicks.

Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched.

If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.

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Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha. Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.

They should have a doubleheader each night, but make it east-west. I know that means the 7/8 loser and 9/10 winner have to play a back to back but so be it. It will give more juice to finishing 7/8.

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Will be available this off season Got 2 years 60 million left on his deal. Would Thibs make that trade again?

he was hurt for a bug chunk of this year but came back pretty strong offensively. That's a big salary but he's still very young and has basically his whole prime ahead of him. Can he defend?

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Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched. If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.

Yep the other 2 games we did a good job on him, but that game he was killing us both penetrating and pushing the ball up the floor. I knew Atlanta was red hot once McMillan got hired but wow the were 36-11 down the stretch. We were 16-4.

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Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched. If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.

Frank should be getting 100% of Elf's minutes. If nothing else for floor spacing. He's not taking many shots but is shooting almost 50% from 3 this year. That plus his defense is a pretty intriguing player.

they are going to have to show on the pick and roll and be able to get back on the 3 point shooters, everyone on defense has tp be on the same page, exactly why Payton should not play he freelances to much

Mike Vorkunov
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Where the Knicks' two first-round picks will be in the 2021 draft:

— Their own pick will be at No. 19 or 20 overall pick based on who wins the tiebreaker between NY and the Hawks
— Mavericks pick will be between 21 and 23 after a tiebreaker splits up Dallas, Portland, and Lakers

Beating any team 3 times is not luck.
They did make some solid moves at the deadline.
I trust Thibs and staff will have a solid game plan in 7 days.

It going to be a battle and it could go 6 or 7 games.

50% capacity with Vaccinated only sections, so could be a little more than 50%

First gut thinking...Knicks in 7.

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In comment 15265560 Anakim said: Quote: Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 Ties that will need to get broken 4. CLE/OKC 8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC 11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in) 19. NYK/ATL 21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL) 25. LAC/DEN So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick Bitter sweet in a deep draft. Maybe Josh Giddy at 20?

I want Day'Ron Sharpe with one of those picks. He's an amazing passing C

Rose, Burks and IQ are healthy and ready to play the bulk of the backcourt minutes. We all know you know who is net negative when out there, need our other guys on the floor and on their game

sounds right to me. Congrats IQ and JR.

on espn

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Its an improvement but is there really that big of a risk difference in 13k vs full capacity with the precautions they have in place (proof of vaccine, negative test) ?

Or is it just for show like a lot of these measures are...

Either way I am pumped they are the 4th seed. What a year. I just hope I can get there without dropping 900 bucks for the worst seat in the house.

It. And I love the kid.

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In comment 15265564 larryflower37 said: Quote: In comment 15265560 Anakim said: Quote: Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 Ties that will need to get broken 4. CLE/OKC 8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC 11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in) 19. NYK/ATL 21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL) 25. LAC/DEN So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick Bitter sweet in a deep draft. Maybe Josh Giddy at 20? I want Day'Ron Sharpe with one of those picks. He's an amazing passing C

Reminds me of a poor man's Adebayo (I mean that as a compliment).

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In an ideal world, it's a full house of fully vaccinated fans.

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Probably be 10k vaccinated 3 k non

cmon dude (ny16)..Randle has been dogshit? This team has no shot in the playoffs? Most games are close. The Knicks are 9th in the entire NBA in points differential. IN other words, relax. This is as good as it gets. NExt season when the expectations go full stupid maybe then it would be time to get crazy.

Randle hasn't exactly been Robert Horry at the buzzer but he's been incredible in the 4th quarter all year long. How many huge baskets does this guy hit every night?

It was an older comment sorry if I am late to this but dude...enjoy this.

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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..

for anyone else that doesn't suck dick bags it's amazing lol.

I get heat of the moment. i go ape shit during games sometimes but don't usually post ape shit comments. If I did i'd be banned, tarred and feathered.

Still, this team doesn't have explain a thing for yesterday. They aren't talented or good enough to blow teams out that often. But they are good enough to beat anyone.

we know where the draft picks are going to be, or is that still TBD?

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In comment 15265570 larryflower37 said: Quote: Will be available this off season Got 2 years 60 million left on his deal. Would Thibs make that trade again? he was hurt for a bug chunk of this year but came back pretty strong offensively. That's a big salary but he's still very young and has basically his whole prime ahead of him. Can he defend?

Even if he just shows that he would try on D, something he'd have to prove if Thibs signed off on trading for Russell, i'd think he could fit in here rather nicely.

Amazing that the KNicks don't exactly run out a murderers row of defenders yet they lead the league in defense. Their best defender (Mitch and Frank?) don't even play that much.

doesn't fit the Thibs MO of point guards, which is put pressure on the rim, break down the defense.

through the lens of "how's their defense" first.

No idea on D-Lo's defense but Thibs is telling you he'll take a defensive PG who can't actually play on offense before he puts an offense-first PG out there to start.

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cmon dude (ny16)..Randle has been dogshit? This team has no shot in the playoffs? Most games are close. The Knicks are 9th in the entire NBA in points differential. IN other words, relax. This is as good as it gets. NExt season when the expectations go full stupid maybe then it would be time to get crazy. Randle hasn't exactly been Robert Horry at the buzzer but he's been incredible in the 4th quarter all year long. How many huge baskets does this guy hit every night? It was an older comment sorry if I am late to this but dude...enjoy this.

Seems like teams have started doubling Randle very aggressively in the last few weeks, especially in Q4/crunch time. Doubling him late, as in second defender waits until he starts to make his move before rushing over to double.I think that’s contributed to a perceived drop off in his shot selection and shot making at the end of games

He has done a pretty good job of finding open guys to pass to when that happens...recent wins have been marked by big late baskets by RJ, Burks, Bullock off assists by Randle

I have faith Thibs will have Randle and the rest of the team well prepared for this to continue

Big picture, highlights the need for one more elite scorer for this squad to truly be a title contender...but that’s more of an offseason discussion

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Don’t leave out Bullock, he’s been a really good perimeter defender. But generally you’re right, it’s amazing what simply making a commitment to it as a team makes. We can probably count on only one hand the number of times they give up easy baskets bc they don’t hustle back in time

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I wonder how they will determine 100% vaccinated people.

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doesn't fit the Thibs MO of point guards, which is put pressure on the rim, break down the defense.

Did Thibs make the trade to Minnesota?

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we know where the draft picks are going to be, or is that still TBD?

19 or 20, and 21 or 22 or 23

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In comment 15265765 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15265759 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: In comment 15265744 nygiants16 said: Quote: .. In an ideal world, it's a full house of fully vaccinated fans. Probably be 10k vaccinated 3 k non I wonder how they will determine 100% vaccinated people.

you habe to show vaccination card to get in

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good point I forgot about Bullock who has quietly had as good a year we could have hoped for.

very likely Bullock is back next season.

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very likely Bullock is back next season.

Makes sense and not questioning it but just curious where you're hearing this?

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In comment 15265831 DanMetroMan said: Quote: very likely Bullock is back next season. Makes sense and not questioning it but just curious where you're hearing this?

Berman reported a few days ago that Thibs "loves" him, called him the teams unsung hero, that he is close with Thibs and Scott Perry and that he would prefer to remain in NY to continue working on his advocacy for transgender issues (his sister was murdered in a hate crime).

"League sources believe Bullock’s market value has risen to a full mid-level exception offer of $9.25 million, but there are about five teams that will be under the cap who can offer more."

spending spree after KD/Kyrie went to Brooklyn - of course I didn't realize what the future held for Randle. Glad to see he's had a bounce back year - last year was brutal with his personal tragedy and the injuries that caused him to fail his physical.

Bullock wants to come back and sorry to hear about his sister.

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In comment 15265835 JoeMoney19 said: Quote: In comment 15265831 DanMetroMan said: Quote: very likely Bullock is back next season. Makes sense and not questioning it but just curious where you're hearing this? Berman reported a few days ago that Thibs "loves" him, called him the teams unsung hero, that he is close with Thibs and Scott Perry and that he would prefer to remain in NY to continue working on his advocacy for transgender issues (his sister was murdered in a hate crime).

Gotcha. Thanks.

He's going to win DPOY, but whenever I watch Gobert go up against an elite big man-be it Jokic, Embiid, Zion, etc.-he gets torched. Granted I'm not watching every Jazz game, but that's just my take on Gobert.

i am assuming since they are adding capacity there will be available...

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He's going to win DPOY, but whenever I watch Gobert go up against an elite big man-be it Jokic, Embiid, Zion, etc.-he gets torched. Granted I'm not watching every Jazz game, but that's just my take on Gobert.

Who does defend those guys well? *Maybe* AD? It seems to me that the role of the center in modern defense is more of a rim protector than anything else, and mostly with respect to PnR and drives from wings/guards. Elite post players like Embiid and Jokic are so rare, in part because of the shift to 3ptrs, a defender suited to slowing those guys is hard to find. Gobert is definitely a big time rim protector.

Heinsberg, I get that point. I just am doing this based on what I recall...I think Embiid put up like 40 on Gobert, Jokic had some plus 40 point games vs. Utah, & Zion had some good nights too vs. Utah. Also, I'm biased...I just don't like Gobert. Haha. Also, Ben Simmons put up 49 on Utah, Haha.

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i am assuming since they are adding capacity there will be available...

season ticket holders Tuesday.
Everyone else Wednesday

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In comment 15265869 nygiants16 said: Quote: i am assuming since they are adding capacity there will be available... season ticket holders Tuesday. Everyone else Wednesday

thank you

Saw tixs are going for 1K plus...

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Saw tixs are going for 1K plus...

fake

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Saw tixs are going for 1K plus...

brokers/bots selling tickets they don't have yet?

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It's not fake Season ticket holder are already put their tickets on StubHub start at 1k
Multiple sources showing aftermarket at 1k - ( New Window )

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season ticket holders havnt even been able to buy tickets yet..

Stubhub has nothing on their website, tells you its fake

Might be fake but these tixs are going to cost a pretty penny.

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Might be fake but these tixs are going to cost a pretty penny.

i am only going to get them if i get them straight through the Knicks, if i miss put, i miss oit, secondary market is going to be crazy..

I also wonder if some people are still hesitstnt to go

nygiants16, I'm in the same boat. I got family in NJ so lodging isn't an issue...if the prices are reasonable-REASONABLE-I'm going to go to a game.

As for people not being comfortable, that's a definite possibility. Me on the other hand...I'm ready for a repeat of the Roaring Twenties, Haha.

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nygiants16, I'm in the same boat. I got family in NJ so lodging isn't an issue...if the prices are reasonable-REASONABLE-I'm going to go to a game. As for people not being comfortable, that's a definite possibility. Me on the other hand...I'm ready for a repeat of the Roaring Twenties, Haha.

yeah i am ready for a game lol

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I think this offseason we are going to see Randle and the Knicks work hardest on what to do when he is aggressively doubled on a regular basis. For obvious reasons he's simply never had to deal with any game plan like that against him for his entire career (and few players do until/unless they actually become all-star caliber players).

Guys like Lebron and Steph are MVP caliber players not just because of their scoring ability, but equally as much because of their passing and how they make their teammates better, but the latter skill also COMES in part from being so accustomed to getting double and tripled -teamed; they know how to respond to it-- it has become basically 2nd nature to them, and precisely WHY they're the best is because they know how to take full advantage of the defense and how to immediately get their guys wide open looks in those situations.

To me, Lebron became a phenomenal passer in this league because he HAD TO. He's one of the most naturally-gifted scorers, and when you have that gift what inevitably happens is teams throw multiple guys at you and you NEED to be able to pass the ball well (and think quickly about where the pass is going).

I personally do see Randle having the potential to be an MVP-like facilitator in that regard, as we often have seen flashes of it this year, but he has a ways to go in that department before becoming a LEGIT MVP player and not just "in the discussion." At this point he (and the team) does not always react well to the pressure of a double-team thrown at Randle. To me, the moment the double team comes, you either make your move and take your shot, or make your move and pass the damn ball. You can't indecisively dribble in place and pick up the ball and stay stationary while 2-3 guys start aggressively trying pry the ball out of your hands. I know it's easier said than done, but I'm holding Randle to high standard to get it figured out this offseason-- he clearly has both the natural talent AND the work ethic to develop that aspect of his game more.

Lonzo told media earlier that he would love to be back with Pels.

He's still the man I think we ought to target this summer. He's a RFA so Pels can match whatever offer he gets.

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Lonzo told media earlier that he would love to be back with Pels. He's still the man I think we ought to target this summer. He's a RFA so Pels can match whatever offer he gets.

I have soured on Lonzo a little bit.
IMO save the cap space for the 2022 FA class were there is better talent available.
I don't want to have to give him 3 yrs 60 million.

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My window is at noon, I am allowed to buy up to 4 tickets per game, 1 for every seat that I have. Curious to see what face value will be. They are going to try to have 13k in the arena with 50 percent being vaccinated in their own sections without masks

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Gotta be within 48 hours no? I don't get the hold up with the play in games.

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I've also soured on Lonzo. I'm not sure how to put succinctly into words why that is, but the best way I could put it is this: I for some reason just don't see a team paying Lonzo Ball $20M a year to start at PG as a championship-caliber team. With every move we should be thinking championship, not necessarily in 2022, but at some point, and if that means saving our cash for 2023 then so be it, but let's look at the value-for-dollar with Lonzo... Put Lonzo on this team and what does it change? I think it would mean we have slightly better odds of winning a 2nd round series, but we'd still be sizable underdogs in that 2nd round series. Is that really worth $20M a year?

I'll admit-- Ball just hasn't jumped off the screen as being all that good to me.

Also- the Pelicans being as bad as they are considering how good "on paper" they are this year also kind of disturbs me. I mean: Ball, Zion, Ingram, Bledsoe, Adams... how does that group get you such sub-mediocre results? With those guys at his disposal I guess I'd just expect better results from a PG whose about to command "young star" type of money.

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larry, I think Lonzo would be perfect fit here. Assuming it's not astronomical, I'd like to snag him. But if not, se la vie.

Summer '22 has potential to be a UFB FA.

Beal or LaVine summer 2022...sign me up. Keep RJ, Randle, & add one of them...that's a Finals contender.

supposedly Dwyane casey told Rose that he would have the same chance at making the playoffs with the pistons as he did going to the Knicks right before they traded rose to Knicks..

Lots of good outcomes from this season, but the best could well be the Knicks are no longer viewed as a pariah/laughingstock around the league. If that's the case, people are going to want to come here. It's New York. It's the Garden. It's basketball Mecca. I know some of us snicker at 'culture', but there's something to be said for it. I have complete confidence in Thibs-outside of Elfrid, Haha-and this FO.

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The last time the Kings made the postseason...I was living in SF, wasn't married, & Bill Frist was the Senate Majority Leader. Uh, it's been awhile.

That's a good fan base too. ARCO was a great place to watch a game. They looked like they were coming on two years ago, but have obviously regressed.

Nor do I want to give Mitch a multi-year deal. Keep the deals short-term even if it means running it back next year with largely the same group, and wait to pay a legit star to join Randle, RJ and your supporting cast.

There is going to be a lot of pressure on this team noe that they finished 4th to have just as good or better of a season..

Then kf they win a round and give Philly a tough series the pressure is going to be even more..

How this franchise takes the next step will be interesting..

Is it adding an estbalished youth like Ball? Going vets like Lowry or derozan? does a superstsr become available?

With the lowest payroll in the league for one more year, add a couple of rookies and have plenty of room at next year's deadline.
Beal and Lavine probably won't sign extension.
They might be available at the deadline.
If not they will be FA's
Any deal you do this off season need to be a 1 year deal
This is a very weak FA class and can't over pay just to improve minimally.
I think you bring everyone back on mid level deals.
Burks, Rose, Bullock,and Noel.
Taj on the cheap.
RJ, Quickley,and Toppin will be one year better.
The list is too long of the talent available.
Need to sell Dolan and the fans on 1 more year of patience.


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for next season. Other then Chris Paul, I think he is the best option out there and is going to likely be an UFA

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As a team, their defense was bottom of the league terrible. I'd rest that on the coaching. No idea what they're doing.

Also, Ingram is a bit overrated. Talented, but kind of a knucklehead player. Might just be a matter of being young.

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There is going to be a lot of pressure on this team noe that they finished 4th to have just as good or better of a season.. Then kf they win a round and give Philly a tough series the pressure is going to be even more.. How this franchise takes the next step will be interesting.. Is it adding an estbalished youth like Ball? Going vets like Lowry or derozan? does a superstsr become available?

Maybe the Kings blow it up and move Fox? Unlikely but you never know in the NBA. But I do think a star will become available. And honestly if one does become available, the Knicks are in great position. OKC and New Orleans have more picks, but is any star clamoring to get there? Highly doubtful.

And if a true superstar does become available, you have to go all in. If the package is mostly picks, in my opinion it’s a no brainer. We’ll see how these deals work put down the line, but do you think Brooklyn or the Lakers will ever regret making those deals for Harden/ Davis? If an all nba level player is available- you do whatever it takes to land them.

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Scott Perry will be back with Knicks

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I think this is good.

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Yes, & think both happen. I think there's a good chance Cs lose both games.

Scott Perry is likely to stick around in the front office.

and the Athletic emailing me today's installment of "The Knicks really sucked the last 20 years, let's re-live it!" Podcast I have to admit I bit and read the story. It was about when Fiz visited Porzi in Latvia the summer before he was traded to try and set up a good relationship. Interesting stuff. Fizdale is a really good guy. Awful coach. No coherent rotation or game plan but a really nice enthusiastic guy. I mean how in God's name do you sit on the bench next to Pop AND Spoelstra 2 of the best in the game and learn so little? Only the Knicks find these geniuses 😂🤣

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Are we afraid of the Pacers and Celtics? Or just prefer the Wizards and Hornets?

In my mind-- I think Wizards have the best chance to beat the Sixers, though I could be wrong about that, and I'd think we want whichever team could *possibly* knock off the Sixers since we're slated to face the winner of that series in a potential round 2.

Mike London is a tremendous human being. Friendly, generous, very active in all kinds of charitable organizations. No one has a bad thing to say about him as a man.

He was just a truly atrocious head football coach.

Wizards to lose and then win. Although honestly I'm not really rooting for anything inherently. Will prob be hard for me to root for the Celtics at all in anything.

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nygiants16, I'm in the same boat. I got family in NJ so lodging isn't an issue...if the prices are reasonable-REASONABLE-I'm going to go to a game. As for people not being comfortable, that's a definite possibility. Me on the other hand...I'm ready for a repeat of the Roaring Twenties, Haha.

That's WHORING 20s. At least that's the word on the street....I am old and married so for me it's just going to be the boring 20s. And that's ok with me.

I think Cs are cooked. I would be surprised if Wiz don't win fairly comfortable tonight.

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In comment 15265799 mfsd said: Quote: In comment 15265783 djm said: Quote: cmon dude (ny16)..Randle has been dogshit? This team has no shot in the playoffs? Most games are close. The Knicks are 9th in the entire NBA in points differential. IN other words, relax. This is as good as it gets. NExt season when the expectations go full stupid maybe then it would be time to get crazy. Randle hasn't exactly been Robert Horry at the buzzer but he's been incredible in the 4th quarter all year long. How many huge baskets does this guy hit every night? It was an older comment sorry if I am late to this but dude...enjoy this. Seems like teams have started doubling Randle very aggressively in the last few weeks, especially in Q4/crunch time. Doubling him late, as in second defender waits until he starts to make his move before rushing over to double.I think that’s contributed to a perceived drop off in his shot selection and shot making at the end of games He has done a pretty good job of finding open guys to pass to when that happens...recent wins have been marked by big late baskets by RJ, Burks, Bullock off assists by Randle I have faith Thibs will have Randle and the rest of the team well prepared for this to continue Big picture, highlights the need for one more elite scorer for this squad to truly be a title contender...but that’s more of an offseason discussion I think this offseason we are going to see Randle and the Knicks work hardest on what to do when he is aggressively doubled on a regular basis. For obvious reasons he's simply never had to deal with any game plan like that against him for his entire career (and few players do until/unless they actually become all-star caliber players). Guys like Lebron and Steph are MVP caliber players not just because of their scoring ability, but equally as much because of their passing and how they make their teammates better, but the latter skill also COMES in part from being so accustomed to getting double and tripled -teamed; they know how to respond to it-- it has become basically 2nd nature to them, and precisely WHY they're the best is because they know how to take full advantage of the defense and how to immediately get their guys wide open looks in those situations. To me, Lebron became a phenomenal passer in this league because he HAD TO. He's one of the most naturally-gifted scorers, and when you have that gift what inevitably happens is teams throw multiple guys at you and you NEED to be able to pass the ball well (and think quickly about where the pass is going). I personally do see Randle having the potential to be an MVP-like facilitator in that regard, as we often have seen flashes of it this year, but he has a ways to go in that department before becoming a LEGIT MVP player and not just "in the discussion." At this point he (and the team) does not always react well to the pressure of a double-team thrown at Randle. To me, the moment the double team comes, you either make your move and take your shot, or make your move and pass the damn ball. You can't indecisively dribble in place and pick up the ball and stay stationary while 2-3 guys start aggressively trying pry the ball out of your hands. I know it's easier said than done, but I'm holding Randle to high standard to get it figured out this offseason-- he clearly has both the natural talent AND the work ethic to develop that aspect of his game more.

Agree about Randle. As good as he's been this year, the perfect description is poor man's Lebron. I mean this in the most complimentary way possible, but don't want to hide the fact that Randle isn't the defender or facilitator that Lebron is. Not a knock, I mean the guy has been incredible but he's not the elite defender or passer. He's merely solid there. Which in and of itself is incredible, but also shows how good Lebron is. Maybe Randle can improve both? If he did, wow.

Phoenix Suns coach Monty Williams has been voted as the National Basketball Coaches Association's Coach of the Year, sources told ESPN on Tuesday.

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Because i want both teams to think about blowing up their team..

I would love to get brogdon if possible..

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Sucks, but I didn't think Thibs would win it.

Quickly so Beal has plenty of time to think about his future and watch the Knicks in the playoffs.

IMO no one in the play-in has any shot at going more than 5 games against Brooklyn and the Sixers.

I would enjoy the Celtics getting the 7th or 8th spot just so I can watch them get blown out 4 more times.

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Sucks, but I didn't think Thibs would win it.

neither did i, coaches love Monty and he has been through a lot, he is well deserving but i thought thibs should of won

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Quickly so Beal has plenty of time to think about his future and watch the Knicks in the playoffs. IMO no one in the play-in has any shot at going more than 5 games against Brooklyn and the Sixers. I would enjoy the Celtics getting the 7th or 8th spot just so I can watch them get blown out 4 more times.

i think the Beal ship has sailed, the run they went on when everyone got healthy, he is not leaving

Wiz-Nets would be fun. Nets would win, but it'd be an entertaining series.

pass on Schroeder. Wants "top tier PG money" and to start in a major market. He's completely mediocre.

hed be a good fit, wish he was a little younger and not coming off a torn acl and wasnt a troll, but hed be a good fit

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hed be a good fit, wish he was a little younger and not coming off a torn acl and wasnt a troll, but hed be a good fit

He's torn his left ACL twice, I'd be very reluctant.

player but he might just be one of several guards in the league that can put up numbers if they have the ball enough.

to re-sign him if they can get him on a reasonable deal. They're capped out, so if he walks you lose the asset for nothing. You can always trade him in the future. And obviously he's very good depth for when Kyrie doesn't feel like playing.

a very solid player but not a good shooter, 29 year one of his next contract and a left knee with 2 torn ACL's. One more is likely a career-ender at this point. I'd pass.

half their team is questionable or out including Brogdon and Sabonis

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half their team is questionable or out including Brogdon and Sabonis

Least appealing of play in games anyways.

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half their team is questionable or out including Brogdon and Sabonis

Pacers are definitely a team to keep an eye on this off season. There's definately change that are gonna be made there starting with the coach. If Brogdon shakes loose in a trade we should pounce.

Didn't Indy almost have a mutiny recently over their head coach?

thoughts on giving Frank burn to guard Trae? I'm in favor.

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thoughts on giving Frank burn to guard Trae? I'm in favor.

The best defense your going to play against trae is to attack him, make him play defense and maybr you get him into foul trouble..

Guarding him with 1 guy isnt going to work and leaving Payton or Frank on the floor is going to allow him to rest on that side..

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In comment 15266573 Mike from SI said: Quote: thoughts on giving Frank burn to guard Trae? I'm in favor. The best defense your going to play against trae is to attack him, make him play defense and maybr you get him into foul trouble.. Guarding him with 1 guy isnt going to work and leaving Payton or Frank on the floor is going to allow him to rest on that side..

eh, sounds good in theory but having old man Rose guard Young for much of the game seems like a great way to get OUR best lead guard gassed and in fould trouble.

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I would put Bullock on Trae..

Rose on Bogdanavich..

No to Rose on Trae.

I'm with nygiants...I'd probably put Bullock on Trae. If only Frank had an offensive game...

I am taking Hornets & Wiz tonight.

Tatum is very good but doesnt make his teammates better? he is a damn good player but everytime i watch them i feel like him and Brown get their points but they dont make anyone around them better

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Tatum is very good but doesnt make his teammates better? he is a damn good player but everytime i watch them i feel like him and Brown get their points but they dont make anyone around them better

I sense that too. They are both super young though.

Uh...it is win or go home.

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This game sucks.

I hope Quickley doesn't look as lethargic

What a joke.

Outside of Knicks, Hornets are the team I probably catch the most because they're local. I thought they'd put in a better effort than this. This is pathetic.

Put their best effort to lose this game.
Ugly game.

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Put their best effort to lose this game. Ugly game.

& yet I think Pacers could beat Cs. Don't they they'd beat Wiz.

So Pacers vs. losers of Wiz/Cs. I think it's Cs Pacers Thursday.

Tix go on sale tomorrow for general public?

Build that lead

I guess we tend to forget that the Celtics show up for the playoffs, no matter how much they suck during the regular season. Maybe the Celtics/Nets series will be better than we’re anticipating (especially w/ the Big 3 not playing at all w/ each other the past couple months). No way the Celtics actually win the series — they might steal a couple games though.

Westbrook always seems to play this way in the playoffs.

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I guess we tend to forget that the Celtics show up for the playoffs, no matter how much they suck during the regular season. Maybe the Celtics/Nets series will be better than we’re anticipating (especially w/ the Big 3 not playing at all w/ each other the past couple months). No way the Celtics actually win the series — they might steal a couple games though.

To clarify though: I do hope the C’s get swept into oblivion and that the contrast between them and a championship caliber team is shown to be so stark that the FO’s hand is forced and the team is blown to smithereens.

Amazing effort. They should be proud.

I was just going on fan duel to place my bet that the Knicks win the NBA Finals (or win the East, can’t decide which I’m betting on). I looked over at the NFL Players futures for a sec and right now the odds of the Knicks winning the NBA Finals are set exactly equal to the odds of Saquon Barkley winning the NFL MVP. Both are at +12,000. I honestly think those odds are set pretty low for Barkley and I’m tempted to put a few bucks on that. I mean they really have his odds currently equal to Ryan Fitzpatrick’s odds?

Nets will crush the Cs.

When are they announcing the series schedule? What’s the hold up?

i cant friggin wait

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Nice. Bring the noise!

Great! Will you still be posting on the game threads? There will be like 60% fewer posts if you're not ... :-)

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Great! Will you still be posting on the game threads? There will be like 60% fewer posts if you're not ... :-)

hahaha

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Great! Will you still be posting on the game threads? There will be like 60% fewer posts if you're not ... :-)

I will attempt to pick up the slack, Haha. I just wish we knew what time Game 1 tips.

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most likely 330, the other east game at 1 and the 2 west coast games are at 7 or 730 and 930 or 10

Yeah, I was thinking in the 3 to 4 range. Super excited.

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Yeah, I was thinking in the 3 to 4 range. Super excited.

i expect the garden to be crazy, mostly diehards, not a lot of corporate suits at the game..

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The way it should be in an ideal world.

Grizz are going to blow this.

Valanciunas was the difference maker

Greatest shooter ever and its not close, i have never seen someone be able to shoot so well from all dkfferent angles..

He cna change his shot depending on the coverage and it is pure, it is unbelievable..

His elite shooting and elite handles will make up for any loss of athleticism as he gets older.

what a horrible call, how can you call that a charge?

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what a horrible call, how can you call that a charge?

Getting called for fouls, not having fouls called on them, and turning over the ball tend to all be factors when the Warriors wind up losing a game they were winning.

How on Earth did they miss that foul on Poole?

the refs are favoring the Lakers?

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe it. They would never do that.

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the refs are favoring the Lakers? I'm sorry, but I just don't believe it. They would never do that.

nba knows if Lebron loses the play in tournament will go away

What a bitch.

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that horrific touch foul. Thank God he’s walking under his own power.

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they should all be investigated. Lakers are able to play with physicality, flopping all over the place while the Warriors are called for every little thing. It's pathetic

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and it sucks this will decide the game

Nah. His fadeaway 30-footer seemed to do it.

Insufferable douchebag.

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they should all be investigated. Lakers are able to play with physicality, flopping all over the place while the Warriors are called for every little thing. It's pathetic

Imagine if the warriors had no challenges on that charge they called? That was the most obvious..

NBA knew if Lebron lost in Play in that Lebron would of bitched and got the play in abolished

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they should all be investigated. Lakers are able to play with physicality, flopping all over the place while the Warriors are called for every little thing. It's pathetic

That's not a new thing though. I hope Curry gets the sort of star treatment that Trae Young already gets sometime before his career ends.

That was some shot by James.

The Lebron performance acting like he was near death on that touch foul by Green took the cake, but there was one drive by Wiggins where Lebron goes flopping into the 10th row. Come on man! Wiggins is giving away a few inches and at least 60 lbs there and that phony goes down like he got hit by a mack truck. AD had his share too. Just an insufferable team. Don't worry though with the way that team shoots the ball they're going nowhere. One problem with Steph at the end. Listen he's super man but what the fuck was he doing when the Warriors secured the rebound with about 8 or 9 seconds to go? He just stopped in the back court. He was treating it like that had 20 seconds left, not 8. Very bizarre on his part.

Money but why does he have to make a mockery of the game by flopping around like that?

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The Lebron performance acting like he was near death on that touch foul by Green took the cake, but there was one drive by Wiggins where Lebron goes flopping into the 10th row. Come on man! Wiggins is giving away a few inches and at least 60 lbs there and that phony goes down like he got hit by a mack truck. AD had his share too. Just an insufferable team. Don't worry though with the way that team shoots the ball they're going nowhere. One problem with Steph at the end. Listen he's super man but what the fuck was he doing when the Warriors secured the rebound with about 8 or 9 seconds to go? He just stopped in the back court. He was treating it like that had 20 seconds left, not 8. Very bizarre on his part.

Kerr was yelling like mad for a timeout. I think Curry was just expecting a TO.

They're lucky Kerr wasn't called for a foul trying to call a TO.

They forced so many sloppy turnovers from the Warriors. Steph is incredible, might be the most impactful offensive player ever. Just insane. Draymond was also incredible defensively, he shut down Anthony Davis. Really hope Klay comes back healthy so they can compete for titles again, but they’ll be a tough out against Utah if they get past Memphis.

LeBron definitely didn’t look as explosive as usual, his lift wasn’t there. But he still played a hell of a game and hit yet another clutch shot in a career full of them.

Hopefully injuries don’t ruin these playoffs because they should be really fun with all these talented teams.

That the Warriors are going to trade Wiseman, a guy like Oubre or Wiggins, and a few picks (including one they acquired from the Twolves) for a star player, and everyone is gonna be pissed.

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They forced so many sloppy turnovers from the Warriors. Steph is incredible, might be the most impactful offensive player ever. Just insane. Draymond was also incredible defensively, he shut down Anthony Davis. Really hope Klay comes back healthy so they can compete for titles again, but they’ll be a tough out against Utah if they get past Memphis. LeBron definitely didn’t look as explosive as usual, his lift wasn’t there. But he still played a hell of a game and hit yet another clutch shot in a career full of them. Hopefully injuries don’t ruin these playoffs because they should be really fun with all these talented teams.

That little bastard Carusso made 2 of the biggest defensive plays. That steal off a scramble when the warriors were plus 12 that turned into a 3 pointer for the Lakers and forcing Steph into that turnover with the Warriors up 3 and 2 and a half minutes left.

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That the Warriors are going to trade Wiseman, a guy like Oubre or Wiggins, and a few picks (including one they acquired from the Twolves) for a star player, and everyone is gonna be pissed.

I think there’s a real chance you guys get Towns. The spacing would be unfair and Draymond could cover for Towns’ D to an extent. It would be a crazy talented offensive team but I wouldn’t hate you guys.

I would absolutely hate your team again if Kawhi goes there lol.

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Caruso honestly looked like their 3rd most important player. Dude is such a smart player and pretty athletic too. I know Knicks fans mentioned Schroder above but I think it was very telling that with the season kinda on the line, that Vogel benched Schroder for Caruso/Matthews. Schroder better rethink the kind of contract he’s going to get. He’ll have his moments during these playoffs but he is pretty damn average overall.

If this has received much press outside the Bay Area but the whole Juan Toscano-Anderson thing is an awesome story. He made some great plays against LeBron... must have felt like he was dreaming.

He is a fantastic interview... about as composed and thoughtful in his answers as Joe Judge. Check them out.

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I think that would require too many assets from GS, unless Towns pulls an AD and just refuses to play in Minnesota.

I am thinking maybe a Bam Adebayo-caliber player. Not him specifically, but something along those lines.

I feel for the Suns.

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Schedule is out for the series. Wed. Game 2. Shocked that Sunday is 7pm TNT. I thought for sure they'd be ABC earlier at either 3 or 5:30, but then again I though ABC would have a doubleheader but they only have 1 game and it makes sense that it is the Lakers.

two of the games (2 and 5) is good for Rose and Gibson.

Going to be up in New Hampshire for Games 2 & 3 so if you hear of a Knicks fan ending up murdered, it's me, Haha.

be in fucking Costa Rica for half of this series lol. What timing.

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be in fucking Costa Rica for half of this series lol. What timing.

Will you be able to catch the game?

I'm going to be in a sea of Celts fans. The attic-where I = crash when flying solo-is like an altar to the Bird era Cs.

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I think so. We'll be at the hotel in the evenings so I imagine they'll be on TV or I can just stream them.

The complete list of players who have made at least 3 shots in the playoffs to take the lead with a minute or less remaining in the 4th quarter or OT since 1997 (first year PbP data became available). This is according to Tommy Beer's twitter.



I wish we had Jordan and Bird's full career numbers on this list, I'm sure they'd be up there. But it's pretty wild how much LeBron stands out from the others. I'm also kind of shocked that Robert Horry only has 3 of these, although this doesn't include his Rockets career where he was also clutch.

Kobe at .269. Massively overrated as a clutch performer.

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Kobe at .269. Massively overrated as a clutch performer.

Absolutely. Tier 1 marketer though.

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Kobe at .269. Massively overrated as a clutch performer.

He was atrocious in Game 7 of the '10 Finals. Atrocious.

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be in fucking Costa Rica for half of this series lol. What timing.

Love me some Costa Rica. Brought my daughter to Papagayo not long ago - the Andaz right on Culebra Bay. Hot as hell, but awesome. Got attacked at the pool by some monkeys too. That was interesting.

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lol that's where we're going!

Kobe was 6 for 24 from the field in Game 7 of the 2010 Finals.

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No shit? Flying into Liberia it's about a 30-40 minute drive to the resort. Get ready to walk up and down some steep pathways at the resort. They will shuttle you around in a golf cart too. Try to get a room near the pool so you don't have to walk in the heat. It can be rough. Also, suggest grabbing dinner or drinks at the Four Seasons right up the road.

fined 25k..

Somebody sould show him game 6 vs. the Pacers in 2013. Pacers shot 46 free throws in that game to our 18.

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Nice. Make some fucking noise!

I keep thinking McMillan is still the Pacers coach so I was like, 'Wow. He's doing a hard sell before tonight's game.

Truth be told, I think 76ers roll either Wiz or Pacers.

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place is going to be a madhouse

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No doubt. I hope Fuck Trae Young chants are in store, Haha.

And the past year plus of being coupes up, I certainly hope you guys in attendance make up for lost time! We are all counting on you to bring down the house! Can’t wait!

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And the past year plus of being coupes up, I certainly hope you guys in attendance make up for lost time! We are all counting on you to bring down the house! Can’t wait!

+1. And I expect it to be bonkers. If I was a Hawks fan, I sure as hell wouldn't want this to go 7 because imagine a Game 7 @ MSG? Good Lord.

I know he had some perv issues, but his longevity is amazing. I was listening to him call Rangers and Knicks games on the radio in the '60s - and he's doing the featured game on TNT tonight (Wiz-Indy). Probably starting listening to him in, say, '66 - that's like 55 years of listening to Marv.

He's 80 now and is retiring.

Thibs finalist for coach of the year, Randle for most improved player, Rose for 6th man. Well deserved
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In comment 15268617 Del Shofner said:

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I know he had some perv issues, but his longevity is amazing. I was listening to him call Rangers and Knicks games on the radio in the '60s - and he's doing the featured game on TNT tonight (Wiz-Indy). Probably starting listening to him in, say, '66 - that's like 55 years of listening to Marv. He's 80 now and is retiring.

Del, loved Marv growing up in '80s & '90s, but he lost his fastball awhile ago. Helluva career though.

I miss the NBA on NBC with Marv...those were the days.

In comment 15268600 BigBlueShock said:

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And the past year plus of being coupes up, I certainly hope you guys in attendance make up for lost time! We are all counting on you to bring down the house! Can’t wait!

Knicks have to get off to a fast start, Hawks are a young team, first time playing in front of a crowd like that, it might rattle them a little bit

Just looking @ that list...Joker wins MVP. Ball wins ROY. Gobert-who I think is overrated-wins DPOY. Randle wins MIP. Ingles wins 6th Man of the Year. Williams wins COY.

....as much as I love Breen and Clyde.

In comment 15268639 bceagle05 said:

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....as much as I love Breen and Clyde.

Yeah, that's a no. Marv was really good, but John was a bit of a curmudgeon at times. Clyde is a Fucking riot.

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In comment 15268656 bceagle05 said:

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I hear ya. All four are solid. That said, it's interesting to witness announcers change their tact when the team is suddenly winning.

In comment 15268639 bceagle05 said:

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....as much as I love Breen and Clyde.

Totally disagree. I enjoy prime Marv don’t get me wrong but Breen is my favorite BBall play by play guy, and I could literally listen to Clyde call an egg painting contest and I’d enjoy it .

In comment 15268624 mfsd said:

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Thibs finalist for coach of the year, Randle for most improved player, Rose for 6th man. Well deserved Link - ( New Window )

How can two 6th man candidates be from the Jazz?? By definition, one of those guys can't be 6th!

Just checked the score. Fuck the Pacers. Go Wiz. Well done.

Styling and profiling like he does every night just adds to the alure.

In comment 15268678 santacruzom said:

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How can two 6th man candidates be from the Jazz?? By definition, one of those guys can't be 6th!

For purposes of the award, the definition of an eligible player is one who comes off the bench in more games than he starts.

Doesn't even matter if the player actually plays starter-level minutes. Jason Terry won the award in 2008-09 playing 34 minutes a game.

So there's nothing in the definition to prohibit multiple nominees from the same team.

Of course, there could be a rule that any one team could only have one nominee, but how you would limit nominees to one per team in terms of a "sixth man" concept itself isn't obvious.

In comment 15268659 Leg of Theismann said:

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In comment 15268639 bceagle05 said: Quote: ....as much as I love Breen and Clyde. Totally disagree. I enjoy prime Marv don’t get me wrong but Breen is my favorite BBall play by play guy, and I could literally listen to Clyde call an egg painting contest and I’d enjoy it .

Before I had cable tv growing up I used to listen to Marv on the radio, and even Marty Glickman and Bob Wolf would occassionally fill in. They were great as was Johnny Hoops but Breen and Clyde are unmatched for me. Breen gives you so much more description and knowledge. He's reffed at the youth/HS level so he has knowledge there. Clyde is simply my favorite color guy in any sport ever. He actually makes the game more enjoyable for me, his adjectives are so much fun, not to mention he represents the only truly great Knicks era ever. He may be a true old timer but he's so good at bringing the game back to its basics that are timeless.

Knick thread tomorrow.

i asked him if i could leave a post it in the back that said Go Knicks, he goes i dont care i am a celtics fan haha

Ja Morant is great but I'm happy with RJ. Morant is very successful inside but his outside shot is pretty suspect. This was a great game either way.

Noah's arc, indeed.

The 3-point shooting is why I think the Knicks beat Atlanta: If Atlanta single-teams Randle, he will devour them. If they double-team him a lot, the Knicks have 5 ultra-high-quality 3-point shooters Julius can pass to: Barrett, Burks, Bullock, Rose and Quickly, and of course, they have shown a high capacity for quick hockey assists--two rapid passes along the circle to find the open shooter. Can Atlanta handle this? I do not think so.
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In comment 15269673 manh george said:

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Noah's arc, indeed. The 3-point shooting is why I think the Knicks beat Atlanta: If Atlanta single-teams Randle, he will devour them. If they double-team him a lot, the Knicks have 5 ultra-high-quality 3-point shooters Julius can pass to: Barrett, Burks, Bullock, Rose and Quickly, and of course, they have shown a high capacity for quick hockey assists--two rapid passes along the circle to find the open shooter. Can Atlanta handle this? I do not think so. Link - ( New Window )

Manh George, great to see you posting!!!