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NFT: KNICKS VS CELTICS - Time to clinch HC / 4th seed

larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:30 am
4th seed is ours with a win!

Boston is resting everyone
Tatum, Fournier, Smart, Thompson, Kemba, and Williams.

Thibs will have them ready and understand what they are playing for.

No injuries and lets celebrate a great season on our home court today!!!

Hey NY WE HERE!

#LFGK

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Wiz Cs at 9 on Tuesday?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 5:24 pm : link
WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.
RE: Wiz Cs at 9 on Tuesday?  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 5:29 pm : link
In comment 15265424 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.


they are doing eastern conference tuesday on tnt and western conference wednesday on eapn
RE: Wiz Cs at 9 on Tuesday?  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 5:41 pm : link
In comment 15265424 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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WTF? I sometimes hate this NBA scheduling. I would rather one game a night for play in tourney.

First game is 6:30 really can't start it much earlier.
Probably lose most of the west coast fans already for the first game.
Larry.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 5:46 pm : link
Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha.

Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.
RE: Larry.  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15265434 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha.

Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.


Trying to finish before olympics
Curry...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 5:55 pm : link
UFB.
RE: RE: Larry.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15265437 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15265434 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha.

Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.



Trying to finish before olympics


I get it. I just hate that Cs Wiz starts at 9 fucking PM on a workday.
If i am the Lakers  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 6:03 pm : link
this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..
RE: If i am the Lakers  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15265441 nygiants16 said:
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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..


Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels.
Its the lakers...  
Italianju : 5/16/2021 6:05 pm : link
you know that even if Denver sits like Jokic and porter they will somehow beat the blazers and the lakers will get to avoid the play in game, lol.
RE: RE: If i am the Lakers  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 6:06 pm : link
In comment 15265443 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..



Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels.


Njggets limiting their starters
RE: RE: RE: If i am the Lakers  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 6:09 pm : link
In comment 15265446 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15265443 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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In comment 15265441 nygiants16 said:


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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..



Don't Blazers have to beat Nuggets? Lakers got layup vs. Pels.



Njggets limiting their starters


Excellent.
RE: If i am the Lakers  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/16/2021 6:11 pm : link
In comment 15265441 nygiants16 said:
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this is the worst outcome, playing steph curry and the warriors in a 1 game playoff..


That only matters if the Lakers definitely want to play the two seed. There’s no way the Lakers would lose to the 9-10 winner though.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 6:11 pm : link
Even if LAL end up in play in tourney, NBA will do whatever they can to get them in playoffs. Let's be serious.
Definitely a tough match-up  
Anakim : 5/16/2021 6:12 pm : link
Trae Young has infinite range
Bogdanovic, Hunter and Huerter are sharpshooters
Capela is a beast on the boards
Congrats to the Knicks fans here  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/16/2021 6:36 pm : link
Hawks vs. Knicks should be really interesting. It could go either way. I get the feeling that D Rose is going to have a memorable performance or two in these playoffs, hopefully that's the case.

Warriors vs. either the Lakers or Blazers in the play-ins will be awesome to watch.

I really hope the Wizards beat the Celtics so we see Wizards vs. Nets in the 1st round. That would be a fun series.
Osi.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2021 7:15 pm : link
Thanks.

I feel good vs. Hawks, though I know Trae will be treated by the refs circa MJ '97.

Rooting for Nuggets or Suns to come out of the West. I hate Utah, Lakers, & Clippers.
I don’t think the Refs  
Leg of Theismann : 5/16/2021 7:34 pm : link
Are gonna tolerate quite as much of Trae’s bullshit flopping when the playoffs start, and I think he’s going to be massively surprised he can’t just get touched and fall down and end up at the line. I could even (hopefully) see it being a point of frustration that will get to him and Hawks.

They have barely any playoffs experience so i think they are a perfect matchup for us in round 1. The Heat have a whole recent Finals run-worth of playoff experience and the Bucks have a ton of playoff experience as well so I think this was best case scenario for us in round 1.

Hawks will be tough but any 1st round matchup is going to be tough when you’re right smack in the middle of the bracket.

Yes the Hawks can get hot from 3 but so can we. And The great thing about a 7 game series is you have to stay hot enough the whole series to beat a team better than you, and that rarely happens unless we’re talking about a REALLY good 3 point shooting team like the Warriors teams of past for instance. I’d rather play out our odds in a 7 game series against a team like the hawks that needs to rely on help from the refs and getting lucky from 3 (and who we beat 3 times this season) rather than a team versatile and confident and experienced Miami team who beat US 3 times. We struggle against very good bigs and that type of thing has a higher probability of beating you in a 7 game series than a team who can simply get hot from 3.
It will be interesting  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 8:09 pm : link
if the Hawks can speed up the game, usually in the playoffa games are slower, grind it out type of games. Hawks do not like playing slugfests, they do not have the personnel for it..

Knicks have played that style all season, they are going to wear on you and grind out games, they are used to this style..

If the refs let the Knicks play physical they will have the advantage, if they dont Hawks will..
I'm really happy they earned the 4 seed  
Bricktop : 5/16/2021 8:15 pm : link
But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.
RE: I'm really happy they earned the 4 seed  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15265508 Bricktop said:
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But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.


This will be the key to the series, are they going to let the Knicks be physical or they going to call every little contact..
RE: I'm really happy they earned the 4 seed  
BigBlueShock : 5/16/2021 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15265508 Bricktop said:
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But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.

You forgot the most annoying thing about having to watch Young. His hair. That shit is a frizzled mess. And makes him even more punchable than he already is, if that’s possible
RE: RE: I'm really happy they earned the 4 seed  
Bricktop : 5/16/2021 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15265533 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15265508 Bricktop said:


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But I don't relish watching multiple games with Trae Young flopping, diving, bitching and moaning the entire time. Just an awful example of modern pro ball.


You forgot the most annoying thing about having to watch Young. His hair. That shit is a frizzled mess. And makes him even more punchable than he already is, if that’s possible


Dude needs to be on the horn with Ron Popeil, stat. I mean it looks like something that should be on a monkey's balls.

Durant just called the Nets  
nygiants16 : 5/16/2021 10:08 pm : link
the "big15", For someone who said the Knicks werent cool you sure like copying what they say
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Anakim : 5/16/2021 11:28 pm : link
Bobby Marks
@BobbyMarks42

Ties that will need to get broken

4. CLE/OKC

8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC

11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in)

19. NYK/ATL

21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL)

25. LAC/DEN



So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick
Playoffs are set  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:30 pm : link
Lakers vs GS in the 7/8 game.
Media dream.
I am sure the sun's are hoping GS pulls the upset.
Can you imagine the Lakers  
GMEN46 : 5/16/2021 11:32 pm : link
Lose to GS and then win the second game to become the 8th seed and the jazz are stuck playing the best team in the west as the #1 seed.
RE: .  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15265560 Anakim said:
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Bobby Marks
@BobbyMarks42

Ties that will need to get broken

4. CLE/OKC

8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC

11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in)

19. NYK/ATL

21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL)

25. LAC/DEN



So the Knicks will get either the 19th or 20th pick, and the 21st, 22nd or 23rd pick


Bitter sweet in a deep draft.
Maybe Josh Giddy at 20?
RE: Can you imagine the Lakers  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15265563 GMEN46 said:
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Lose to GS and then win the second game to become the 8th seed and the jazz are stuck playing the best team in the west as the #1 seed.


It's funny Lakers will be favorite against either the Suns or the jazz
Moving up in the draft  
GMEN46 : 5/16/2021 11:35 pm : link
Hey just curious if anyone knows the draft values for picks. Let’s assume knicks end up with 20,22 and they will have 32 from Pistons. If they packaged all 3 of those together how far up can they move, probably not top 10, maybe somewhere in 12-15 range.
Could the following get the Knicks into the top 5  
GMEN46 : 5/16/2021 11:38 pm : link
Obi, Mitch and the 3 picks to Toronto or Sacramento. I know the playoffs should be the focus but I’m just curious if Suggs was sitting there at 5 or 6 do they have the ammo to get him
RE: Moving up in the draft  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15265566 GMEN46 said:
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Hey just curious if anyone knows the draft values for picks. Let’s assume knicks end up with 20,22 and they will have 32 from Pistons. If they packaged all 3 of those together how far up can they move, probably not top 10, maybe somewhere in 12-15 range.


It will be interesting if the knicks try and trade pre draft to get a star.
I would try and trade one for a pick in 2022.
Kick it down the road to buy some time
RE: Could the following get the Knicks into the top 5  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15265567 GMEN46 said:
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Obi, Mitch and the 3 picks to Toronto or Sacramento. I know the playoffs should be the focus but I’m just curious if Suggs was sitting there at 5 or 6 do they have the ammo to get him


Most teams are not looking to add 3 rookies at once.
Rumors DeAngelo Russell  
larryflower37 : 5/16/2021 11:55 pm : link
Will be available this off season
Got 2 years 60 million left on his deal.
Would Thibs make that trade again?
Why would suggs be there at 5?  
Italianju : 5/17/2021 8:21 am : link
but either way a top 5 picking team is not trading that pick for 2 late firsts, a second, obi and mitch. I think the idea that the two firsts could maybe move you close to 10, although at that point i dont think its worth it. I could see moving maybe one of the firsts and the second to move up like 5 spots if there is a guy they love.

I do think its more likely that we trade 1 or 2 of our top 3 picks this year. Either in a deal to move up or for a vet, or even future firsts or seconds. This roster doesnt really have room for 3 rookies, plus you might take 3 rookies that dont get any time on the court, not ideal.
RE: Definitely a tough match-up  
Stu11 : 5/17/2021 8:45 am : link
In comment 15265453 Anakim said:
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Trae Young has infinite range
Bogdanovic, Hunter and Huerter are sharpshooters
Capela is a beast on the boards

I'd be happy to have Trae take the long 3's. The key is keeping him out of the paint. The 2 guys who worry me the most are Bogdanovic who's absolutely been on fire for 6 weeks now and Capela because great offensive rebounding bigs give us fits. I do agree that the usual slower pace of playoff games would give us a big advantage.
Feel bad for Phoenix.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/17/2021 8:46 am : link
They probably draw the Lakers round 1.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/17/2021 8:50 am : link
When does schedule come out?
RE: Feel bad for Phoenix.  
Jon in NYC : 5/17/2021 8:50 am : link
In comment 15265618 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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They probably draw the Lakers round 1.


I agree that it would be nice to see Phoenix win, generally a likable group of players, but a round 1 exit likely leads to more volatility and both Paul and Booker are guys that have been rumored with the Knicks.
last time we played the Hawks  
Enzo : 5/17/2021 8:53 am : link
Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched.

If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.
RE: Larry.  
Stu11 : 5/17/2021 8:53 am : link
In comment 15265434 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Pacers Hornets 630...the excitement is off the charts...Haha.

Just do one game each night. Give more rest to playoff teams.

They should have a doubleheader each night, but make it east-west. I know that means the 7/8 loser and 9/10 winner have to play a back to back but so be it. It will give more juice to finishing 7/8.
RE: Rumors DeAngelo Russell  
Enzo : 5/17/2021 8:55 am : link
In comment 15265570 larryflower37 said:
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Will be available this off season
Got 2 years 60 million left on his deal.
Would Thibs make that trade again?

he was hurt for a bug chunk of this year but came back pretty strong offensively. That's a big salary but he's still very young and has basically his whole prime ahead of him. Can he defend?
RE: last time we played the Hawks  
Stu11 : 5/17/2021 9:06 am : link
In comment 15265622 Enzo said:
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Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched.

If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.

Yep the other 2 games we did a good job on him, but that game he was killing us both penetrating and pushing the ball up the floor. I knew Atlanta was red hot once McMillan got hired but wow the were 36-11 down the stretch. We were 16-4.
RE: last time we played the Hawks  
Jon in NYC : 5/17/2021 9:18 am : link
In comment 15265622 Enzo said:
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Trae Young, before he got hurt and had to leave the game, was getting to whatever spot he wanted with ease no matter who we threw at him (Rose, Quick, Payton). Rose, in particular, was completly overmatched.

If that continues, Thibs needs to dust off Frank and throw him out there. If only to make sure Rose doesn't get in foul trouble.


Frank should be getting 100% of Elf's minutes. If nothing else for floor spacing. He's not taking many shots but is shooting almost 50% from 3 this year. That plus his defense is a pretty intriguing player.
The wing defenders are going to be hugd  
nygiants16 : 5/17/2021 9:30 am : link
they are going to have to show on the pick and roll and be able to get back on the 3 point shooters, everyone on defense has tp be on the same page, exactly why Payton should not play he freelances to much
Breaking down a playoff matchup...amazing...  
bceagle05 : 5/17/2021 10:04 am : link
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/17/2021 10:28 am : link
Mike Vorkunov
@MikeVorkunov
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23s
Where the Knicks' two first-round picks will be in the 2021 draft:

— Their own pick will be at No. 19 or 20 overall pick based on who wins the tiebreaker between NY and the Hawks
— Mavericks pick will be between 21 and 23 after a tiebreaker splits up Dallas, Portland, and Lakers
We have played them well  
larryflower37 : 5/17/2021 10:29 am : link
Beating any team 3 times is not luck.
They did make some solid moves at the deadline.
I trust Thibs and staff will have a solid game plan in 7 days.

It going to be a battle and it could go 6 or 7 games.
Cuomo going to announce  
nygiants16 : 5/17/2021 11:44 am : link
50% capacity with Vaccinated only sections, so could be a little more than 50%
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/17/2021 12:01 pm : link
First gut thinking...Knicks in 7.
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