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NFT: New York Rangers Head Coaching Search

Anakim : 6/2/2021 8:45 am
John Gambadoro
@Gambo987
Former Coyotes coach Rich Tocchet had a second interview with the New York Rangers for their vacant head coaching job yesterday. Tocchet had his first interview with the Rangers last Tuesday.

According to this Gambadoro guy (who is a radio personality in Arizona), the search is down to Gerard Gallant and Rick Tocchet (and the coach not selected may very well be the first Kraken head coach).


Gallant is still in Latvia coaching Team Canada, but he's already interviewed with the Rangers. He is far and away my #1 choice to be the next HC of the New York Rangers.


But Tocchet. Ehhh. The Flyer and Penguins great...Am I the only one getting Bryan Trottier vibes? Haha
What's Mike Keenan up to?  
Mattman : 6/2/2021 8:58 am : link
I kid, I kid
Eh I'd be fine with either  
jv : 6/2/2021 9:05 am : link
I'm just glad they're not going for someone like Torts, Julien, or Boudreau. I was kinda hoping the Penguins would let Sullivan go.
Rick Tocchet?  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2021 9:07 am : link
What is the appeal there? His teams have gone nowhere and done nothing.
Rich Tocchet?  
M.S. : 6/2/2021 9:08 am : link

178 wins and 200 losses as an NHL Head Coach.

Oh, well, beats Pat Shurmur.
RE: Rick Tocchet?  
Anakim : 6/2/2021 9:12 am : link
In comment 15277999 Greg from LI said:
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What is the appeal there? His teams have gone nowhere and done nothing.


I imagine you'll hear "well, he squeezed every last drop out of that Coyotes roster and helped stabilize the most dysfunctional organization in the NHL."
I mean  
BeckShepEli : 6/2/2021 9:26 am : link
if its really down to those 2, it seems to be a no brainer in Gallant. He seems to wear out his welcome pretty quick but gives us the best shot of winning.
Sounds like the Pens are keeping Sullivan,  
Mad Mike : 6/2/2021 10:13 am : link
but I'd like to see the Rangers at least wait to make sure. I think he'd be an excellent hire if he's let go in Pittsburgh.
I’d kinda like it  
Bones : 6/2/2021 10:25 am : link
If they started interviewing some of the European coaches. I would think we’d have better luck with the best European coach rather than the 30th best American coach who is 60 plus years old.
And why isn’t  
Bones : 6/2/2021 10:28 am : link
PJ on here gloating about The Canadiens?
in other Rangers news....  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2021 11:20 am : link
Braden Schneider was named WHL East defenseman of the year. They really have a cornucopia of quality young defensemen.
RE: in other Rangers news....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2021 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15278187 Greg from LI said:
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Braden Schneider was named WHL East defenseman of the year. They really have a cornucopia of quality young defensemen.


They need to find some way to get rid of Trouba. I like him just fine but they have such good options waiting in the wings.
Schneider  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2021 12:12 pm : link
is playing right now for Canada at the IIHF World Championships.

Quarter finals start tomorrow, games should be on NHL I think.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2021 12:14 pm : link
I also don't get Tochett.

I like Gallant but I don't like that he's apparently anti-analytics. I think analytics matter more in the front office but I find it a little concerning.

I lean towards taking some risk with this hire and going after someone in Europe/the AHL/NCAA.

BTW, I completely missed this from Brooks:

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Apparently extremely late to the party on this, but there is an undercurrent suggesting Joel Quenneville has his sights set on moving to Seattle to become the coach of the Kraken once his season is over with Florida, which might explain why Seattle general manager Ron Francis has moved so slowly on this hiring.

If the Puddy Tats let Quenneville get away, and certainly so if this is related to money, then perhaps we should all rethink whether Aleksander Barkov is a slam-dunk to re-up with the Panthers before he becomes eligible to hit the open market a year from July.

NY Post - Brooks - ( New Window )
And I wouldn't be in a rush  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2021 12:17 pm : link
to get rid of Trouba even if he is overpaid. I know he's a target for fans, but he plays the hard minutes. And that's not a hockey cliche.

I read similar stuff from almost every teams fan base about their top pair D.

He's not a bad player  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2021 12:29 pm : link
But he's pretty significantly overpaid relative to his performance, they have a lot of promising internal options, and that contract will make it harder to keep their young guys.
RE: He's not a bad player  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2021 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15278274 Greg from LI said:
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But he's pretty significantly overpaid relative to his performance, they have a lot of promising internal options, and that contract will make it harder to keep their young guys.


I don't know those younger guys (except Fox) will ever be as good as Trouba. Lundkvist is good offensively, not sure on his D at the NHL level. I thought Miller showed promise, but also, he may never defensively be as good as Trouba.
I think Kreider will be a bigger issue moving forward  
PwndPapi : 6/2/2021 12:37 pm : link
than Trouba.
I think you're overrating Trouba, honestly  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2021 12:42 pm : link
He's tough and hits but he really isn't anything close to a lockdown defenseman. He had a big shot but never puts it on net. Not an elite skater. Not much of a playmaker.
I am disappointed  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2021 12:58 pm : link
in Trouba's upside. I thought his offense would be better.

and I didn't realize how sheltered his minutes were in WIN.

but I think his floor is a top 4 D. He may not be Alex Pietrangelo, or prime Shea Weber or Zdeno Chara (or now McAvoy) from a shut down D standpoint, but he's absolutely worthy of the top pair, top 4 at worst.

I would overpay for that certainty, and still hope for some upside, but sadly he never evolved into that guy.
If Joel Quenneville could be had,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/2/2021 1:14 pm : link
then the Rangers need to be the ones who have him.

As for Trouba, I really liked his combo with Miller. He’s definitely overpaid, but there was some toughness and leadership in him that I wasn’t aware existed. I don’t think he can be moved, so it is what it is (tm Antrel).
RE: I think you're overrating Trouba, honestly  
ColHowPepper : 6/2/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15278288 Greg from LI said:
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He's tough and hits but he really isn't anything close to a lockdown defenseman. He had a big shot but never puts it on net. Not an elite skater. Not much of a playmaker.
That's the Greg-on-Trouba I'm used to, as vs. your 12:29PM, which is damning with faint praise.

I get your take, the contract was too rich, agree, but Wilson-on-Buch-slamming-Panarin doesn't go down the spineless way it did if Trouba is healthy. Before dealing him and further depleting the stores of balance desperately needed--just like I'd like to deal Chytil for value but how do you do that with the shortage of C-men?--Rangers have to inject some talented muscle. What a get Carter would have been!

Team is locked and loaded with d-men currently on and about to be on the roster. I wonder how Drury is assessing them all for potential moves: Fox (for sure), KAndre and Lindgren untouchable? Smith is cheap and versatile. Then Lundqvist (love him), Schneider, Robertson, others I'm missing. Hajec nor Zac Jones would not imo have long term future, based on latter's brief cameo. Even that group as a whole, Trouba adds an element not held in abundance.
What Big Contract?  
Samiam : 6/2/2021 3:22 pm : link
There aren’t many big contracts that are not overpaid. All I know is that the teams dim prospects for making the playoffs this year took a big hit when Trouba got hurt. While he was playing, they looked like they had a chance.
Zac Jones has been awesome in the World Championships  
Rick in Dallas : 6/2/2021 4:36 pm : link
I would not underestimate his role on the D in the future.
Gallant please.  
Saquon'sQuadz : 6/2/2021 5:26 pm : link
want nothing to do with Tocchet
RE: Zac Jones has been awesome in the World Championships  
ColHowPepper : 6/2/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15278554 Rick in Dallas said:
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I would not underestimate his role on the D in the future.
Rick, agree, he came in and competed, held his own. But the competition is fierce.
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#NYR Prospect Defensemen in 2020-21:

- Nils Lundkvist – Salming Trophy winner (best Swedish-born defenseman in the SHL)

- Braden Schneider – WHL East Division Defenseman of the Year

- Matthew Robertson – WHL Central Division Defenseman of the Year
3:45 PM · Jun 2, 2021·TweetDeck
Draft lottery is happening now  
NYerInMA : 6/2/2021 7:20 pm : link
Rangers are picking 15th.
RE: Draft lottery is happening now  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2021 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15278642 NYerInMA said:
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Rangers are picking 15th.


The announcer saying JT Miller was the most notable 15th overall pick the Rangers have made and then pointing out they picked Kovalev there in the next breath had me mad, lol.
RE: in other Rangers news....  
Anakim : 6/2/2021 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15278187 Greg from LI said:
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Braden Schneider was named WHL East defenseman of the year. They really have a cornucopia of quality young defensemen.



Jess Rubenstein
@TheProspectpark
Congrats to Matthew Robertson named the WHL's Central Division defenseman of the Year. Robertson will compete against fellow prospect Braden Schneider for the WHL's defenseman of the year. My bet says Schneider
Gallant just won gold at the IIHF World Hockey Championship  
Anakim : 6/6/2021 4:23 pm : link
Time to fly him into NYC for the presser
Gerard Butler  
PwndPapi : 6/6/2021 7:56 pm : link
could have coached Team Canada to the Gold. No one's saying he isn't a good coach. I'm concerned with his short shelf life in spite of the success.
RE: Gerard Butler  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2021 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15281117 PwndPapi said:
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could have coached Team Canada to the Gold. No one's saying he isn't a good coach. I'm concerned with his short shelf life in spite of the success.


more than a slight exaggeration. Canada lost their first three games of this tournament to the US (5 - 1) and powerhouses like Latvia and Germany.

Granted there isn't a ton of talent in this tournament, but Canada's big names were Andrew Mangiapane, Adam Henrique, and Maxim Comtois - not exactly a set it and forget it lineup.

They beat a Russia team in the QF's with Tarasenko, Orlov, Provorov, and a couple more names, then the US team in the semis who had previously beat them 5 - 1, and the Fins in the finals who had 1 loss in 7 prelim games.

not miracle on ice, but an impressive win, Gallant deserves credit.
As I said, he's clearly a good coach  
PwndPapi : 6/6/2021 8:27 pm : link
But of the 24 players on the CAN's roster, only 4 are not on NHL squads. Of those 4, 3 are recent first round picks and Power is likely to go first overall in the coming draft.

He didn't just coach the Jamaican bobsled team to a gold medal here.
LOL geniuses everywhere  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2021 9:38 pm : link


Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 54m
Gerard Gallants stock has risen among the teams he’s interviewed with (NYR, Sea, CBJ) based on the challenges faced at the Men’s Worlds and the Impressive march to the Gold medal.
Huh?  
PwndPapi : 6/6/2021 9:44 pm : link
Gallant was already in the running for 3 of those jobs. Or did you miss that bit where he interviewed with NYR before even leaving for the tourney?

I've said repeatedly he's a highly successful coach with an impressive resume. I wouldn't be upset if he ended up on Broadway. My only concern is why such a successful coach appears to be fired in 3 years or less in each of his last two jobs - despite the success.

I know you fancy yourself an expert on all matters here, but there's no reason to be snarky.
with that said  
PwndPapi : 6/6/2021 9:46 pm : link
I do generally enjoy your takes and do think you're a knowledgeable NHL fan. Relax.
RE: with that said  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2021 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15281194 PwndPapi said:
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I do generally enjoy your takes and do think you're a knowledgeable NHL fan. Relax.


ok
Unless Quenneville or Brind'Amour shake loose, this is a  
Anakim : 6/6/2021 11:25 pm : link
no-brainer. It should be Gallant.
RE: Unless Quenneville or Brind'Amour shake loose, this is a  
Anakim : 6/11/2021 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15281293 Anakim said:
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no-brainer. It should be Gallant.


I think that's the holdup. The Hurricanes owner is notoriously cheap and Brind'Amour needs a new contract. Drury may not want to commit to Gallant until he hears what's going on with Rod.

But even if Rod doesn't re-sign in Carolina, I could easily see him join his former teammate Ron Francis in Seattle.
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