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nygiants16 : 6/3/2021 7:35 am
Was hoping this would not happen so quickly but it has and now we see hoe thr Knicks take that next step. Plenty of ways for this team to go and i am sure we will analyze and throw out ideas and over analyze every single option.

First off i am not taking 5 games in the playoffs over what we saw for 72 games. Does it suck? absolutrly but that dorsnt change my opinion on Randle or Rj or Thibs.

Randle is a building block, is he a number 1? no but we never thought he was, he is a 2 or in a perfect world a 3, same with Rj, Rj had his ups and downs and i was definitely one to always call out his downs but he improved a lot this season and gave you more hope for him than after his rookie deal..

As for the Vets on this team, Rose should be back as the back up point. He is clearly not a stsrter and we saw he got burnt out. Id like to see Burks back on the right deal, Bullock if he is coming back as a back up on a 1 or 2 year deal..

Taj i would love back as the 3rd center, Noel it depends on Mitch, i dont think you bring back both..

For the offseason there are a number of scenarios we habe already talkrd about

Lowry and Derozan, while trading fkr a star was mentioned by Jon in NYC..The lerfect way to do this is Lowry and derozan taking 2 year deals to play with Randle and thr star whoever it is..

Kawhi and trade for a star, this is a scenario that comes into play if Clippers lose game 6, Kawhi comes Knicks most likely will have a deal lined up for his running mate moving Randle the 3rd option..

We have seen Bradley Beal already stokr the flames, hopefully some guys decide it is time to move on...
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Bucks/Nets tied with three minutes left.  
bceagle05 : 6/10/2021 9:58 pm : link
Feels like KD and Kyrie will hit a bucket each to take this one. Somehow Milwaukee is suffocating Brooklyn’s offense and they still can’t seize control.
Aaaaand the Bucks hang on.  
bceagle05 : 6/10/2021 10:12 pm : link
Giannis needs to show up in Game 4.
RE: RE: RE: He has 2 more years  
Leg of Theismann : 6/10/2021 10:31 pm : link
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Why would we want Turner over Robinson? They’re about equal in defending, Robinson is the better rebounder, Turner is the better scorer. I personally think rebounding is more important in a center for us than scoring. I give the edge to Robinson as an overall player and Robinson is 2 years younger. Both are injury prone so that doesn’t provide an advantage. I don’t get the appeal.



They arent equal defending, Turner is bigger and doesnt get pushed around, turner is also a better shot blocker, not by much but he is..

and saying Turner is better offensively doesnt do it justice, he is worlds better offensively


Well he may be bigger and doesn’t get pushed around but then I’m just wondering why he doesn’t come up w/ more rebounds. He basically averages 8 reb per 36 min while Robinson averages 11. I’m only drawing so much attention to this because I think a big reason why we got destroyed by the Hawks was because we got absolutely waxed in the boards. It’s the part of Robinson we missed most coming down the stretch (despite the fact Noel did a tremendous job protecting the rim almost all year he simply wasn’t a force on the glass).

Idk I’m only playing devils advocate here because I do feel like with free agents it can often be a “grass is greener” situation. And The best ability is availability so I’ve been more willing than most to trade Robinson (not for nothing though) but Turner is also not exactly reliable in that department either so that also is causing me to scrutinize him a little more.
Stupid question here  
Leg of Theismann : 6/11/2021 3:44 am : link
I just saw the Nets are like $30-40M over the cap for this season. So like why is that allowed exactly? Like are there any consequences for being over the cap then really? And they’ll be allowed to just be way over the cap next year as well?
RE: Stupid question here  
TyreeHelmet : 6/11/2021 9:30 am : link
In comment 15284386 Leg of Theismann said:
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I just saw the Nets are like $30-40M over the cap for this season. So like why is that allowed exactly? Like are there any consequences for being over the cap then really? And they’ll be allowed to just be way over the cap next year as well?


NBA is a soft cap that allows you to go over the salary cap in a number of ways but mainly resigning your own players using the “Bird rule” to exceed the salary cap. Can also take on additional money in trades, picks and mid level exceptions. Only deterrence is the luxury cap penalties which is only financials.

It’s why you always hope the Knicks get in a position to be good with their own players because Dolan has never cared spending and the luxury tax won’t bother him. Hopefully one day soon.
Who was the person on BBI who was screaming from the  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/11/2021 10:22 am : link
mountaintop before that draft that the Knicks should take Donovan Mitchell? I recall it was one person in particular. The craziest thing about Mitchell is he’s only 6-1. Maybe it’s the muscle or his game, but he seems a lot taller than that.
RE: Who was the person on BBI who was screaming from the  
adamg : 6/11/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15284522 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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mountaintop before that draft that the Knicks should take Donovan Mitchell? I recall it was one person in particular. The craziest thing about Mitchell is he’s only 6-1. Maybe it’s the muscle or his game, but he seems a lot taller than that.


What GMEN46?
What = Was it  
adamg : 6/11/2021 10:28 am : link
Losing my mind
What's  
Jon in NYC : 6/11/2021 10:31 am : link
the opposite of a bat signal?
RE: Who was the person on BBI who was screaming from the  
Heisenberg : 6/11/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15284522 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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mountaintop before that draft that the Knicks should take Donovan Mitchell? I recall it was one person in particular. The craziest thing about Mitchell is he’s only 6-1. Maybe it’s the muscle or his game, but he seems a lot taller than that.



Don't remember who it was here, but I do remember that happened.

The good news is that the guys in the league who were doing that now work for the Knicks.
Nah GMEN46 was all over Malik Monk.  
bceagle05 : 6/11/2021 10:39 am : link
Never shut up about him.

*ducks for cover*
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