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Giants sign 1st round draft pick Kadarius Toney

Vin_Cuccs : 6/3/2021 11:36 am
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hmm  
UConn4523 : 6/3/2021 11:38 am : link
how does this effect #cleatgate?

Good news, can't wait to watch him.
Tom Polissero on Twitter:  
Vin_Cuccs : 6/3/2021 11:38 am : link
The #Giants agreed to terms with first-round pick Kadarius Toney on his four-year, $13,719,508 fully guaranteed rookie deal.
RE: hmm  
giants#1 : 6/3/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15279238 UConn4523 said:
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how does this effect #cleatgate?

Good news, can't wait to watch him.


He can afford custom made ones for his abnormal feet now. :D
Good news!  
Jimmy Googs : 6/3/2021 11:43 am : link
Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...
RE: Tom Polissero on Twitter:  
Anakim : 6/3/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15279239 Vin_Cuccs said:
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The #Giants agreed to terms with first-round pick Kadarius Toney on his four-year, $13,719,508 fully guaranteed rookie deal.


The guy hasn't even had a catch yet and he's getting paid that much!?!? :)
RE: Good news!  
KDavies : 6/3/2021 11:46 am : link
In comment 15279242 Jimmy Googs said:
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Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...


For comparison, Fields is projected to get $18.9 million. Saves a bit over $1 million a year. While the draft haul is the main reason, saving a bit of money doesn't hurt either.
Seed money for his music  
Ben in Tampa : 6/3/2021 11:50 am : link
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RE: RE: Good news!  
Jimmy Googs : 6/3/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15279245 KDavies said:
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Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...



For comparison, Fields is projected to get $18.9 million. Saves a bit over $1 million a year. While the draft haul is the main reason, saving a bit of money doesn't hurt either.


Yep. Teams usually try to win more games to gain this benefit, but DG finally discovered a loophole.
wow  
TXRabbit : 6/3/2021 11:53 am : link
Forget rain, this is going to be a typhoon at a few strip joints shortly. I'm guessing he's already got a trip to Miami booked
RE: wow  
rebel yell : 6/3/2021 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15279251 TXRabbit said:
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Forget rain, this is going to be a typhoon at a few strip joints shortly. I'm guessing he's already got a trip to Miami booked

I know you're joking, but I really hope this isn't the case. I'd like to think they get assigned mentors and smart financial advisors who can help them avoid losing it all, but sadly, I know that isn't always the way it works.
#20 Pick Kadarius Toney 4-Year / $13.72 Million deal  
M.S. : 6/3/2021 12:03 pm : link

was already a foregone conclusion based on who had already signed:

19 Washington LB Jamin Davis Kentucky Signed: 4Y, $13.8M
21 Indianapolis DE Kwity Paye Michigan Signed: 4Y, $13.6M
22 Tennessee CB Caleb Farley Virginia Tech Signed: 4Y, $13.5M
23 Minnesota OT Christian Darrisaw Virginia Tech Signed: 4Y, $13.3M
24 Pittsburgh RB Najee Harris Alabama Signed: 4Y, $13.1M
RE: Seed money for his music  
robbieballs2003 : 6/3/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15279248 Ben in Tampa said:
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Lol
Yung Joke is RICH!  
TC : 6/3/2021 12:23 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Good news!  
Johnny5 : 6/3/2021 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15279249 Jimmy Googs said:
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Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...



For comparison, Fields is projected to get $18.9 million. Saves a bit over $1 million a year. While the draft haul is the main reason, saving a bit of money doesn't hurt either.



Yep. Teams usually try to win more games to gain this benefit, but DG finally discovered a loophole.

Hmm, this comment at the same time annoyed me and made me laugh.... lol

I'll give you a "Well Done!" here.
Does this  
crick n NC : 6/3/2021 1:20 pm : link
Affect our comp picks!?!?
RE: Does this  
section125 : 6/3/2021 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15279318 crick n NC said:
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Affect our comp picks!?!?


Yes! the get less $$$
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crick n NC : 6/3/2021 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15279330 section125 said:
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Affect our comp picks!?!?



Yes! the get less $$$


Mother flippin excellent!
Glad he  
Semipro Lineman : 6/3/2021 1:46 pm : link
decided to stop being a diva
/sarcasm font
RE: RE: RE: Good news!  
Spider56 : 6/3/2021 3:14 pm : link
In comment 15279249 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15279242 Jimmy Googs said:


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Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...



For comparison, Fields is projected to get $18.9 million. Saves a bit over $1 million a year. While the draft haul is the main reason, saving a bit of money doesn't hurt either.



Yep. Teams usually try to win more games to gain this benefit, but DG finally discovered a loophole.


You take being an asshole to a whole new level.
Would say the same if your natural reaction  
Jimmy Googs : 6/3/2021 3:42 pm : link
is to be offended by it...
Offended ... nah ... but why pray tell does most everything you write  
Spider56 : 6/3/2021 3:49 pm : link
circle back to a shot at DG?
RE: Offended ... nah ... but why pray tell does most everything you write  
Jimmy Googs : 6/3/2021 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15279443 Spider56 said:
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circle back to a shot at DG?


Well, it doesn't. But again since that offends you whether it is in jest or not, just read posts that don't...
RE: RE: Good news!  
bw in dc : 6/3/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15279245 KDavies said:
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In comment 15279242 Jimmy Googs said:


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Gettleman is a genius for trading down and ultimately saving money on the cost of his first-round pick...



For comparison, Fields is projected to get $18.9 million. Saves a bit over $1 million a year. While the draft haul is the main reason, saving a bit of money doesn't hurt either.


Or differently said, Fields's contract will be cheaper than Jones's... ;)
Please work out  
JonC : 6/3/2021 4:51 pm : link
because I would've drafted defense there.
Thank goodness he signed......  
Fishmanjim57 : 6/3/2021 5:06 pm : link
It's a big contract for a rookie, but I think this kid is going to be great!
RE: Please work out  
BillT : 6/3/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15279465 JonC said:
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because I would've drafted defense there.

We had a pretty darn good defensive draft without that, no?
Yeah baby!  
adamg : 6/3/2021 5:33 pm : link
Hop on the Toney train!
I can’t wait to see this kid play  
Jay on the Island : 6/3/2021 7:22 pm : link
He isn’t polished as a WR but he will make some big plays next season. He’s probably the most exciting prospect from this draft with the ball in his hands.
RE: I can’t wait to see this kid play  
SGMen : 6/3/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15279530 Jay on the Island said:
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He isn’t polished as a WR but he will make some big plays next season. He’s probably the most exciting prospect from this draft with the ball in his hands.
Yes, with the ball in his hands he may be elite. I can see us opening up all sorts of plays to isolate him and feed him the ball.
I can see us using him in the slot or moving him around to create matchup advantages.
Welcome Yung Joka!  
trueblueinpw : 6/3/2021 9:29 pm : link
Get into the New York groove!
RE: Please work out  
blueblood : 6/3/2021 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15279465 JonC said:
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because I would've drafted defense there.


Just tell yourself they took Ojulari in the first and Toney in the second..
Ojulari doesn't thrill me  
JonC : 6/3/2021 10:38 pm : link
Hope both prove me wrong.
RE: Ojulari doesn't thrill me  
eric2425ny : 6/3/2021 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15279657 JonC said:
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Hope both prove me wrong.


I don’t know a lot about Ojulari to be honest. He got the highest pass rushing grade for the draft prospects from PFF for whatever that’s worth. What don’t you like about him Jon? I’m curious to hear your thoughts. Is he bad against the run?
I don't see a special pass rusher in him  
JonC : 6/4/2021 9:12 am : link
He's solid and presents a solid floor but I don't see a high ceiling for the NFL. Feels like they really locked in on him, and then there's the knee question that dropped him. Hopefully I'm wrong, just don't love their first two picks.
Well, not really sure how much special the Giants  
Jimmy Googs : 6/4/2021 9:18 am : link
see in him either. Yes, they clearly like what they see in him since he was drafted him in the middle of Rd 2, but they also passed on taking him three separate times.

RE: Well, not really sure how much special the Giants  
Bill L : 6/4/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15279735 Jimmy Googs said:
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see in him either. Yes, they clearly like what they see in him since he was drafted him in the middle of Rd 2, but they also passed on taking him three separate times.


Regardless, wasn't he their top-ranked Defense guy? If they stuck to defense at 20, he likely would have been the choice anyway.
RE: RE: Well, not really sure how much special the Giants  
Jimmy Googs : 6/4/2021 9:58 am : link
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see in him either. Yes, they clearly like what they see in him since he was drafted him in the middle of Rd 2, but they also passed on taking him three separate times.




Regardless, wasn't he their top-ranked Defense guy? If they stuck to defense at 20, he likely would have been the choice anyway.


Top-ranked as of when? Not sure that is really known and is an odd way to frame it.

Recall comments that they liked one or two of defenders leading up to #20 but think they were taken ahead of them leaving Toney as the top guy on their board. After that I don't think word has leaked out as to where their remaining defensive targets (including Ojulari) stood versus rest of the field as they navigated thru Rd 2.
13 million  
cjac : 6/4/2021 10:03 am : link
Can buy a lot of assault rifles
RE: Well, not really sure how much special the Giants  
JonC : 6/4/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15279735 Jimmy Googs said:
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see in him either. Yes, they clearly like what they see in him since he was drafted him in the middle of Rd 2, but they also passed on taking him three separate times.


Yeah, that's what I'm alluding to with NYG fans that had also targeted him ... at #11. Giants got two good prospects, but I'm not seeing the type of impact talent some are implying and tend to overrate based on enthusiasm.
RE: RE: Well, not really sure how much special the Giants  
Jimmy Googs : 6/4/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15279829 JonC said:
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see in him either. Yes, they clearly like what they see in him since he was drafted him in the middle of Rd 2, but they also passed on taking him three separate times.




Yeah, that's what I'm alluding to with NYG fans that had also targeted him ... at #11. Giants got two good prospects, but I'm not seeing the type of impact talent some are implying and tend to overrate based on enthusiasm.


Yep but overrating NYG picks is not an unusual occurrence from NYG fans. Ojulari has talent but not #11-type talent in this draft. He and most of the top edge guys were always pegged into back half of Rd 1 and into Rd 2 by the guys betting the smart money. And that is how it played out...
Yes  
Toth029 : 6/4/2021 1:05 pm : link
Giants passed on him early, but that's value. JOK got pass on several times, too. As did a lot of talented, perhaps diamonds in the rough in later rounds. Ojulari is someone who fits the scheme well and, unlike a lot of other edge guys, can contain and drop in zone. Kwity Paye was liked more by some, but he isn't the same caliber fit. He isn't dropping in zone.

Toney is we'll see. I'm not unimpressed by his skill level. But can Garrett and the other offensive guys get the most out of him?
RE: RE: Please work out  
JonC : 6/4/2021 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15279480 BillT said:
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because I would've drafted defense there.


We had a pretty darn good defensive draft without that, no?


We did pretty well on the whole, I like Robinson best of the picks. I just liked other Edge players at #20 with more diverse abilities, and feel NYG drafted to plug holes in the first two rounds, which I notoriously dislike.
I admit I don't know shit but to me this idea that Garrett  
Dr. D : 6/4/2021 1:55 pm : link
and the other offensive guys might struggle to get the most out of Toney, seems silly. For one thing, from what I've seen, just get Toney the ball and he does a lot on his own.

As far as Garrett's offense, did it leave a lot to be desired last year? Hell yes, but look at the dookie he was working with.

A 2nd yr QB struggling with turnovers in a new offense without OTAs or preseason, rookies on OL, best weapon out for season, possibly league worst WR corps (worst separation and prolly YAC), etc., etc.

None of that is going to be the case this year. I'm pretty sure his game plan will be vastly different w/ a more experienced OL and QB w/ guys like Golladay, SB, Toney and Rudolph on the field.

If I'm wrong and Garrett does struggle, I don't think JJ is the type to let it fester for long.
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