NFT: USMNT vs Mexico Nations League Final

find this game on TV. Is it just Paramount +?

In comment 15281122 Jon in NYC said:

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find this game on TV. Is it just Paramount +?

I'm watching Honduras CR on Paramount, but this game will be on CBS Sports.

went with 3 in the back. I think it'll probably be more of a 3-4-3 with Pulisic and Reyna out wide.

A little surprised Adams didnt get the call given he's fully fit.

simply needs more touches. He had the fewest touches of any outfield player vs HNT. That's just ridiculous. Best player in US history needs the ball.

In comment 15281130 Jon in NYC said:

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went with 3 in the back. I think it'll probably be more of a 3-4-3 with Pulisic and Reyna out wide. A little surprised Adams didnt get the call given he's fully fit.

Ream is going to kill us in that spot. Hope I'm wrong. Maybe we can figure out how to finish and overcome it.

Is he really fully healthy though? I definitely think he's coming off the bench at some point.

In comment 15281131 Bricktop said:

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simply needs more touches. He had the fewest touches of any outfield player vs HNT. That's just ridiculous. Best player in US history needs the ball.

He wasn't very good against Honduras, quite possibly still jet-lagged. Hoping for better from him tonight.

would've liked to see Adams in.

In comment 15281136 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 15281131 Bricktop said: Quote: simply needs more touches. He had the fewest touches of any outfield player vs HNT. That's just ridiculous. Best player in US history needs the ball. He wasn't very good against Honduras, quite possibly still jet-lagged. Hoping for better from him tonight.

I thought he was OK. He had some moments running at the D. And you're right, he might be a bit hung over and suffering from travel. But he still needs the ball. No excuses tonight. This is a beatable Mexican team.

In comment 15281134 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 15281130 Jon in NYC said: Quote: went with 3 in the back. I think it'll probably be more of a 3-4-3 with Pulisic and Reyna out wide. A little surprised Adams didnt get the call given he's fully fit. Ream is going to kill us in that spot. Hope I'm wrong. Maybe we can figure out how to finish and overcome it. Is he really fully healthy though? I definitely think he's coming off the bench at some point.

Yeah Ream just can't possibly be the 3rd best centerback in the pool. Aaron Long is probably better but he's hurt, but still.

savior of US soccer and has brought great intensity since his first cap. I think he’s pressed a little too much in the past, but here’s to him finding the right balance tonight. I think we see a helluva of a game from him tonight.

He gave away many passes in the final third of the field.
He looked gassed when they subbed him out near the end of the game.
I kept waiting for Dest to make overlapping runs but it never happened.
The best player was Reyna who went directly at the Honduras defense.
We shall see if our midfield can control play against Mexico and not give the ball away.

In comment 15281143 Zeke's Alibi said:

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savior of US soccer and has brought great intensity since his first cap. I think he’s pressed a little too much in the past, but here’s to him finding the right balance tonight. I think we see a helluva of a game from him tonight.

I hope you're right, my man.

Wtf

GGG strikes again. Dude seems great at creating a culture but just bizzare at organizing it.

I like his energy on set. But he sounds like a jackass.

In comment 15281167 Bricktop said:

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I like his energy on set. But he sounds like a jackass.

He seems like a fun guy to hang out with and did a better job interviewing Pulisic last week than anyone I've seen, but he just sucks onset.

And choke the Mexican lady is probably not going to age wel.

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not ready for the moment. Pathetic.

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Since the goal

Good night

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In the back. That shit was criminal.

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almost immediately after Mexico was just offside and had a second goal disallowed. Huge momentum shift

start with the rolling around on the ground, acting like the cartel just shot them horseshit.

and got the #1 goalkeeper position on another club team. I'm not that confident with our #1 keeper not getting consistent game time

is a horror show.

the back four got carved open and played too high a line, Excellent save

Lucky to be tied at the half

Who are soccer tourists who show up for the World Cup but don’t pay too much attention in between - is this game a huge deal? Like if they beat Mexico here what would that mean for USMNT?

In comment 15281234 Azul Grande said:

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Who are soccer tourists who show up for the World Cup but don’t pay too much attention in between - is this game a huge deal? Like if they beat Mexico here what would that mean for USMNT?

Not as big as a World Cup qualifier but still an important match to see where the US stands

The USMNT is not a good passing team and has a slow back four. Not a good combination for a team trying to play out of the back. Berhalter still has not figured out how to use Pulisic and Reyna.

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How often do those turn out well?

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is pure trash back there. How did he get a start in this match .

Good things

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Holy shit.

Is this goes to pens, that might be a confidence booster.

foulness. Well done assholes.

heard. So you are going to reward the bad behavior by letting them control the flow of the game. Moronic.

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Fucking Bullshit. Crooked trash referee.

and the ref blows it. Fucking typical. CONCACAF is a circus.

Doing Mexican fan things. Hurling bottles and projectiles at American players.

I still shouldn't be surprised by this shit, but FIFA should ban fans from all their games for like a decade.

This is absurd.

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why was that a penalty kick for Mexico?

In comment 15281325 GruningsOnTheHill said:

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why was that a penalty kick for Mexico?

They called a hand ball in the box which was a BS call.

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Worse than Philadelphia.

All we're missing is Mean Gene Okerlund and Miss Elizabeth. What are we going to go 140 minutes?

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on the broadcasting team mentioned Horvath was playing in his "hometown." He's originally from the Denver suburbs.

This game had everything.

So proud of those guys. Let's go!

VAR
Fights
Penalty kicks
Overturned goal
Backup keepers
Mexico fans pelt USA players with bottles
Mexico fans pelt Mexico players with bottles
Homophobia PSAs

Frenetic pace, chippy plays, heroic moments, horrific fans, game-changing replays, parent-child backstory, abysmal reffing – and all of this in the championship game between arch international rivals.

at work today after having been sucked in last night to wait for the outcome. Exciting for sure, but as someone above said, I felt like I was watching a WWF event. If a fan at a baseball game throws something from the stands, they identify & eject him. Why was the US team going over to the Mexican fan corner to taunt them after the penalty goal anyway? Take the high road.

I had the sound off because the missus was sleeping, but I still don't understand why Mexico was awarded a penalty kick--I didn't see any hand touch the ball in the replays.

played a 3 man back to get Dest more involved, it didn't work too well as I think Dest had a really poor game. But what last night was about was a shot of confidence. And tis team has now shown resiliency after falling behind a few times now.

They really need to figure the back line out though.

And Mexico is trash from their coach to the players to their fans. And a qualifier in Mexico City is going to be a spectacle - and not in a good way

I give huge props to Acosta who replaced him in the back 3.He stabilized the back 3 defense.
Diego Laneiz is going to be a star for Mexico. He was dangerous every time he touched the ball.
IMHO, the referee lost control of the game in the second half.Some awful non calls which in turn made the game uglier in physicality.

will add a lot to this team.
Sergent is like having a WR who runs great routes and is a good teammate but cant catch- he needs to live on the bench.
Figuring out the best spot for Dest is a must.
ream can be a defensive sub late, but he cannot start- he was horrific.
mckenzie at least bounced back from a bad start.
the playing the ball out of the back with poor ball handlers gives me more anxiety then anything in sport i think.
amazing energy in the game though-- feeling it this AM

seemed to be the true torch passing game from the old guard to the new generation. McKennie and Reyna both exceeded already high expectations. Pulisic is obviously a star. I thought Weah looked pretty dangerous and Acosta maybe found a place. Is Berhalter good enough to keep things going in the right direction?

game. Fights everywhere, property destruction, people spitting on each other. US Mexico is such a wild rivalry.

CONCACAFs brilliant idea to stop the chants is just so god damn CONCACAF it hurts.

If this was a normal game with 3 subs, we would have got smoked. GB needs to figure out something soon if he’s missing one of the key pieces. That clearly wasn’t it.

know what it's going to take for James Sands to get a call up. He's been absolutely unbelievable this year for NYCFC. Clearly better than Ream at this stage.

In comment 15281167 Bricktop said:

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I like his energy on set. But he sounds like a jackass.

Don’t disrespect the real American GOAT

In comment 15281545 JoeyBigBlue said:

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In comment 15281167 Bricktop said: Quote: I like his energy on set. But he sounds like a jackass. Don’t disrespect the real American GOAT

I cringe when networks feel they have to hire ex-USMNT players to commentate. Edu isn't annoying like Twellman/Lalas and has potential. Gooch/Dempsey/Davies were awful last night.

In comment 15281604 DCGMan said:

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In comment 15281545 JoeyBigBlue said: Quote: In comment 15281167 Bricktop said: Quote: I like his energy on set. But he sounds like a jackass. Don’t disrespect the real American GOAT I cringe when networks feel they have to hire ex-USMNT players to commentate. Edu isn't annoying like Twellman/Lalas and has potential. Gooch/Dempsey/Davies were awful last night.

Twellman is probably the best color guy we have in this sport. He informative and is not afraid to be blunt/critical.

In comment 15281326 GF1080 said:

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In comment 15281325 GruningsOnTheHill said: Quote: why was that a penalty kick for Mexico? They called a hand ball in the box which was a BS call.

Why was it a BS call?

In comment 15281675 geepeegee said:

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In comment 15281326 GF1080 said: Quote: In comment 15281325 GruningsOnTheHill said: Quote: why was that a penalty kick for Mexico? They called a hand ball in the box which was a BS call. Why was it a BS call?

Sorry, pressed "Submit" too early. I think it was marginal, sure, but the arms was away from the body so there was at least an argument to be made for the call. Personally, I agree and would not have awarded the penalty, but I don't think it was BS.

cannot be overstated. The player had really come on in recent years and would have forged a nice partnership with Brooks. Everyone is pounding on Ream (who is simply starting to fade but still working hard), but it was McKenzie who really had some mind-numbing moments last night--not counting the soft call from the game official at the end to award a penalty kick.

I think it is great that the US won and it is always nice to beat the Mexican team and its fans, but overall this US team is a long way from being good enough to take on most of the major squads from Europe. Also not certain that they would even be favored again if playing Mexico.

Pulisic and Reyna need much more up top than Josh Sergeant is giving. McKinnie is going to be fine and hopefully so too will Adams. I cannot understand much of what Berhalter does but the most astonishing is the failure to find time for Musah, who they really pushed hard to bring to the team.

is a real head-scratcher. Not even a late sub in the Honduras game when it was tied. The commentators even made mention of it.

In comment 15281838 Jeffrey said:

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I think it is great that the US won and it is always nice to beat the Mexican team and its fans, but overall this US team is a long way from being good enough to take on most of the major squads from Europe. Also not certain that they would even be favored again if playing Mexico.

To be fair, the US didn't play well - at all. Other than set pieces, their defense was suspect, Dest was invisible on the attacking end, Pulisic wasn't great - maybe the only two guys worth mentioning in a completely positive light were McKinnie and Reyna. Out of the 16 or so guys who played.

And they still won the game. That's a big positive for me. Recent teams would roll over and die after the quick Mexican goal a minute in.

In comment 15281893 Bricktop said:

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To be fair, the US didn't play well - at all. Other than set pieces, their defense was suspect, Dest was invisible on the attacking end, Pulisic wasn't great - maybe the only two guys worth mentioning in a completely positive light were McKinnie and Reyna. Out of the 16 or so guys who played. And they still won the game. That's a big positive for me. Recent teams would roll over and die after the quick Mexican goal a minute in.

This was my take. I was so fed up with watching the Yankees that I switched over to this, the first soccer game I've watched since Wojo missed that open net opportunity to steal one vs Belgium a few years ago.

Similarly, I thought Mexico controlled the game last night, and to my admittedly un-trained soccer eye, they looked to be clearly better. Hopefully this US team is on the upswing, though.

I'm so out of it with soccer, I had to google Freddy Add to find out why this "up and coming star" wasn't in the game. The guy is already 32...? He was touted as a sure-fire world class player. What happened there?

Beating Costa Rica 2-0 right now. Goals from Aaronson and Dike which is great to see.

now. Great move by Cannon. Only guy I'd say has been subpar is Weah.

Great performance overall though. Not only is this the most talented USMNT probably ever, it's also the deepest.

But I thought it was a bit low rent for Reyna to fight over the ball to take the penalty. He's 18, I get it.

Aaronson deserved it after a great game and Gio just came on. Would have been a nice reward for playing 80 minutes of excellent fooooootble.

Nit picking a 4-0 dominating win is fun.