who would gladly sit out the season out of spite. But hopefully he stays there and plays just to beat the Bears twice, if nothing else. It would suck for the fans too if he sat out over a grudge. Granted, I have no idea what really happened behind the scenes but yeah.
he gets a new contract with Packers for BIG money, making Jordan Love trade bait to a team looking for a developmental QB (Atlanta, Washington, Tennessee).
is the type of person who has cut off his family and hasn't spoken to them in 7 years. He holds grudges and he is extremely obstinate. I don't think money or playing football is enough to persuade him to play. He will make it as uncomfortable as possible for the packers.
I can see him possibly coming back mid season (if that), but I don't think he will be starting week 1 and I don't see green bay trading him.
outside of it really sucking for us if he doesn't play (Chicago pick)
why doesn't anyone call the Packers assholes? IMV they completely botched the last 4 or 5 years of his career starting with keeping McCarthy around for so long, and followed it up with a horrific decision to replace their MVP early. Call Rodgers whatever you want but hopefully you also do the same to the other culprits.
been any reports of what the Packers think of Love? I think that may factor into it. Agree that he seems the type that is not going to budge if he already wants out.
At the end of the day... he's a fierce competitor.
he gets a new contract with Packers for BIG money, making Jordan Love trade bait to a team looking for a developmental QB (Atlanta, Washington, Tennessee).
This is a good bet. The GM might want to kiss and make up with Golden Boy and a new contract would be the key.
GM: Hey baby, I didn't mean it. Love means nothing to me. How about a new contract? There ya go. (Gives reach around)
is the type of person who has cut off his family and hasn't spoken to them in 7 years. He holds grudges and he is extremely obstinate. I don't think money or playing football is enough to persuade him to play. He will make it as uncomfortable as possible for the packers.
I can see him possibly coming back mid season (if that), but I don't think he will be starting week 1 and I don't see green bay trading him.
ever seen the movie, The Fighter? Some family "cut-offs" are warranted although I know nothing about this one....
why doesn't anyone call the Packers assholes? IMV they completely botched the last 4 or 5 years of his career starting with keeping McCarthy around for so long, and followed it up with a horrific decision to replace their MVP early. Call Rodgers whatever you want but hopefully you also do the same to the other culprits.
This is all on the packers imo. They unnecessarily created this situation. Rodgers has been with their organization from day one and they know his temperament. You would think they would try to appease their star as much as possible, but instead they just tick him off even more with every move.
for anyone making the claim that he showed "signs of slowing down" the data doesn't really support that. His 1 and only legit WR was hurt for the bulk of 2019 and he still threw 26 TD's and only 4 INTs. If that's slowing down I'll take that every single year without hesitation. Instead of upgrading and trying to get beyond the NFCC, they take Love, a project.
Its 1 decision that carries a multitude of risk, with very very limited upside. Made absolutely no sense whatsoever given what the team accomplished in 2019. If they were 4-12, different story.
He doesn't have many years left, is he willing to give one up? I don't see it, GB holds almost all of the cards here. I think they come to terms right around camp time.
have thought he and mcCarthy were douchebags ever since their post game pressers after the Giants beat them and the refs 37-20.
He continues to show he is an arrogant prick. Obviously I have nothing good to say about him.
IDK what will happen but hope he sits out and loses $ and if and when he comes back has a career ending (not life ending) injury. Big baby, f him.
You know its a game right? You are free to think however you want but it sounds like Aaron Rodgers did something to you personally.
Also kinda hate that you are a Giants fan wishing a career ending injury on someone due to a post game press conference, how do you handle actual adversity in life?
and honor his contract or don't play. Rodgers is still very good but he is not the future anymore. He will have to be replaced eventually. I don't think Rodgers has the leverage he thinks he has.
and honor his contract or don't play. Rodgers is still very good but he is not the future anymore. He will have to be replaced eventually. I don't think Rodgers has the leverage he thinks he has.
Okay, how many games in your view do the Packers win this year if he sits?
I'm really torn. I ALWAYS want the Packers to do poorly (they of 13 championships and Giant with 8), but as we know, the Giants need the Bears to do poorly and a Rodgers led Packers team hopefully can hand two losses on the Bears.
is that he stays in GB, threatening to sit out the season up until last preseason game. Ends up playing his usual good football, but is even more of a dick to anyone that will listen.
My hope is that the packers trade him to the team with the worst OL in football & he gets his ass kicked up & down the field the rest of his career.
He's been very prosperous playing football. The GB packers owe him nothing more than what he signed up for.
you are a saint.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
you are a saint.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
Sports is full of arrogant pricks. Unless he's out there committing crimes who gives a shit? You don't have to like him either but wishing he'd have a career ending injury? That's as low class as it gets.
I don't like LeBron James, but wishing he's break his leg never entered my mind because I'm not a scumbag.
you are a saint.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
They re-work his contract to make him a FA next year.
Rodgers is happy, he only has to put in 1 more yr than he can go to a new team and get a new deal with the new team.
Green Bay cuts it's losses, they get 1 more yr of a motivated (new team and contract on the horizon) Rodgers, plus they can Franchise Tag and Trade him in the offseason. This gives them an entire off-season to drive up the biggest trade they can. If not they still own him at like 44 or 45 MIL on the tag, but no one wants it to get to that. Not sure what is allowed to be re-worked in the contract, but the ultimate for GB would be a re-worked deal that removes all dead money, but even just looking at the numbers as they are now, 17M dead is a lot better than 38M.
GB gets a kings ransom, Love takes over, the drama is ended, they save some face, Rodgers gets what he wants, though 1 yr later, so he feels like he wins. I think it's a good compromise.
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
Hmmm...Green Bay Packers with the 24th overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2005 select Aaron Rodgers.
This is Green Bay. The Owner can’t do something counter to what the
its been talked to to death on here. Rodgers fell draft day - he could have gone #1. Love is a project.
Instead of taking what happened 15 years ago in a different NFL why don't you look at recent 1st round picks and where the line of success seems to be drawn. Other than Lamar Jackson, you'd be hard pressed to find any late 1sts or early 2nds that work out well.
There's always gems like Russell Wilson, but you usually end up with a Christian Hackenberg.
RE: This is Green Bay. The Owner can’t do something counter to what the
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
You can make the argument that QBs are more overdrafted than they’ve ever been because of the rookie pay scale. If you have a veteran in place, the move is to draft a pocket passer that can sit and learn. They are the guys that are dropping because they can’t just step in right away and produce. The Bucs just did this. I like Trask and think he has a chance, but fans and the media would write him off in the first few years because he can’t rely on his mobility. It’s hard for a pocket passer to stick around long enough to get to that point if he’s playing.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
Of course Rodgers is a fundamental part of their success, and he’s presumably their quarterback for 2 more years.
If Aaraon Rodgers had come out and said:
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I’m fine with it … It’s my job to earn that job, keep that job.
If he had said, would you be thinking the Packers had made a mistake?
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
Hmmm...Green Bay Packers with the 24th overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2005 select Aaron Rodgers.
yes I would. 13-3 suggests they are potentially 1 upgrade away from moving the needle. And I also think his skillset will age well and as why are finding out with the older QB's of this generation, playing well past the expected expiration date has almost become common.
They also traded up for Love (a 4th rounder) suggesting a lot more was going on than just thinking Rodger's was going to not be good anymore. Seems to me like they jumped on an opportunity to try and get ahead of what is now, nuclear fallout.
Who claim they'll sit the whole season out and forfeit their money unless they get what they want. But for some reason, he is one where I might be able to believe it. I do think he is serious about it. Whether he ultimately does it or not, I don't know, but I don't view it as a bluff. I think he is serious that he'll give his money up and sit the season out.
That's fair. I see it as Green Bay has a great offense, and a good defense. They were in the driver's seat all year, and their young coach mismanaged the end of the championship game.
We're not talking several bad moves by the organization. We're talking arguably one debatable move -- on a pretty loaded team.
I think if Rodgers had played it cool -- most everyone would feel like it was a wise move to plan for the future.
Rodgers can let Love get a few starts and see how he does, and how the team does. If the Packers were to start 1-4 or 2-3, I wouldn't want to be the GB GM. AR then has ALL the bargaining power and the situation gets worse.
GB has to make a decision before the start of the season, if for no other reason, to make the path easier for Love. If Love struggles at all, with Rodgers still on the roster, the media and fan noise would make Love's life a living hell.
I can see him possibly coming back mid season (if that), but I don't think he will be starting week 1 and I don't see green bay trading him.
This is a good bet. The GM might want to kiss and make up with Golden Boy and a new contract would be the key.
GM: Hey baby, I didn't mean it. Love means nothing to me. How about a new contract? There ya go. (Gives reach around)
I can see him possibly coming back mid season (if that), but I don't think he will be starting week 1 and I don't see green bay trading him.
ever seen the movie, The Fighter? Some family "cut-offs" are warranted although I know nothing about this one....
I won't judge the family aspect, as I have no idea what that story is....
But GB and Rodgers have underpreformed in the playoffs....and in general, I have little interest.
This is all on the packers imo. They unnecessarily created this situation. Rodgers has been with their organization from day one and they know his temperament. You would think they would try to appease their star as much as possible, but instead they just tick him off even more with every move.
Its 1 decision that carries a multitude of risk, with very very limited upside. Made absolutely no sense whatsoever given what the team accomplished in 2019. If they were 4-12, different story.
He continues to show he is an arrogant prick. Obviously I have nothing good to say about him.
IDK what will happen but hope he sits out and loses $ and if and when he comes back has a career ending (not life ending) injury. Big baby, f him.
He continues to show he is an arrogant prick. Obviously I have nothing good to say about him.
IDK what will happen but hope he sits out and loses $ and if and when he comes back has a career ending (not life ending) injury. Big baby, f him.
You know its a game right? You are free to think however you want but it sounds like Aaron Rodgers did something to you personally.
Also kinda hate that you are a Giants fan wishing a career ending injury on someone due to a post game press conference, how do you handle actual adversity in life?
4,200 yards
7.8 yards/attempt
40 Touchdown passes
8 interceptions
150 yards rushing
2 Touchdowns rushing
Okay, how many games in your view do the Packers win this year if he sits?
My hope is that the packers trade him to the team with the worst OL in football & he gets his ass kicked up & down the field the rest of his career.
He's been very prosperous playing football. The GB packers owe him nothing more than what he signed up for.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
Sports is full of arrogant pricks. Unless he's out there committing crimes who gives a shit? You don't have to like him either but wishing he'd have a career ending injury? That's as low class as it gets.
I don't like LeBron James, but wishing he's break his leg never entered my mind because I'm not a scumbag.
AR is an arrogant prick and I base it on what I have seen of him all these years not just a press conference.
Would love to see him out of football and arrogance humbled
Agree with UConn. Fans like you suck.
Rodgers is happy, he only has to put in 1 more yr than he can go to a new team and get a new deal with the new team.
Green Bay cuts it's losses, they get 1 more yr of a motivated (new team and contract on the horizon) Rodgers, plus they can Franchise Tag and Trade him in the offseason. This gives them an entire off-season to drive up the biggest trade they can. If not they still own him at like 44 or 45 MIL on the tag, but no one wants it to get to that. Not sure what is allowed to be re-worked in the contract, but the ultimate for GB would be a re-worked deal that removes all dead money, but even just looking at the numbers as they are now, 17M dead is a lot better than 38M.
GB gets a kings ransom, Love takes over, the drama is ended, they save some face, Rodgers gets what he wants, though 1 yr later, so he feels like he wins. I think it's a good compromise.
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
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If you pull away the Rodgers drama:
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
Hmmm...Green Bay Packers with the 24th overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2005 select Aaron Rodgers.
Instead of taking what happened 15 years ago in a different NFL why don't you look at recent 1st round picks and where the line of success seems to be drawn. Other than Lamar Jackson, you'd be hard pressed to find any late 1sts or early 2nds that work out well.
There's always gems like Russell Wilson, but you usually end up with a Christian Hackenberg.
Because the Packers are publicly held does not mean the fans have to approve of personnel moves. The team will make the decision.
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If you pull away the Rodgers drama:
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
You can make the argument that QBs are more overdrafted than they’ve ever been because of the rookie pay scale. If you have a veteran in place, the move is to draft a pocket passer that can sit and learn. They are the guys that are dropping because they can’t just step in right away and produce. The Bucs just did this. I like Trask and think he has a chance, but fans and the media would write him off in the first few years because he can’t rely on his mobility. It’s hard for a pocket passer to stick around long enough to get to that point if he’s playing.
Of course Rodgers is a fundamental part of their success, and he’s presumably their quarterback for 2 more years.
If Aaraon Rodgers had come out and said:
If he had said, would you be thinking the Packers had made a mistake?
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In comment 15281587 christian said:
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If you pull away the Rodgers drama:
- The Packers fired McCarthy before he had 2 full losing seasons
- They replaced him with an up and coming coach who immediately turned in a 13-win season
- They used a pick in the mid 20s on a QB, with a 37 year old QB
- Won 13 games again, a playoff game, and arguably could have won another
- The Packers took 2 pretty good offensive players in rounds 2 and 3
- The Packers had the 13th ranked scoring defense in the NFL last year
The Packers are one Aaron Rodgers press conference from being viewed as a well prepared, well coached, winning team set for success now and the future.
How can you pull the drama away. Does any of the above happen without Rodgers? And you can prep for life after Rodgers without blowing a 1st on a project, that's what the mid-rounds are for.
What's the success rate for QB's taken in the late 20's? Much different than a 2nd or 3rd rounder? I haven't looked but I doubt it.
Hmmm...Green Bay Packers with the 24th overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2005 select Aaron Rodgers.
good pick...
They also traded up for Love (a 4th rounder) suggesting a lot more was going on than just thinking Rodger's was going to not be good anymore. Seems to me like they jumped on an opportunity to try and get ahead of what is now, nuclear fallout.
We're not talking several bad moves by the organization. We're talking arguably one debatable move -- on a pretty loaded team.
I think if Rodgers had played it cool -- most everyone would feel like it was a wise move to plan for the future.
GB has to make a decision before the start of the season, if for no other reason, to make the path easier for Love. If Love struggles at all, with Rodgers still on the roster, the media and fan noise would make Love's life a living hell.
that's good!
I predict I won't care just as I don't now.