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NFT: Mets Minors 6/7/2021- Cyclones go HAM this weekend

DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 10:42 am
Syracuse

Guillorme 1-3 (rehab)
Mazeika 0-4, 2 k's
Khalil Lee 2-4 (Lee so far in June .444/.583/.722 (18 ab's) maybe most impressive is the 6 walks.

@SyracuseMets bullpen yesterday sounded like a law firm Roney, Windle, and Schugel


AA
Cortes 2-3, 2 BB, K (OPS up to .905)
Vientos 0-5, 2 k's (33 k's over 87 ab's)
Lindsay 1-5, HR, 3 k's (33 k's over 58 ab's, not a typo)
Dibrell 6 innings 6 hits 2 runs 0 walks 5 k's (

BK
Mauricio 1-5, 2b, 2 k's (The new power is something to see. Still a lot more raw than say Baty, K/BB isn't great, most upside in the system, floor is a non-big leaguer due to swing and miss and eventual position ?? Upside is middle of the order all-star)
Baty 1-2, HR, 2 walks ("Sadly" I don't think I'll be seeing Bay in person in 3 weeks as he looks headed toward a promotion. Big-time Baty believer)
Alvarez 3-4, BB, 2 2b's (Started slowly in BK, heating up)
Adrian Hernandez 0-5, 3 k's (Gotta wonder if Adrian Hernandez is a candidate to be demoted when SS ball begins. He's been non-competitive in BK to this point (he's only 20 and possibly overmatched)
Butto 4 innings 8 hits 6 runs 2 walks 4 k's

St. Lucie
Palmer 0-2, BB, K
Ramirez 0-2, 2 k's, 2 SB (1/18 with 9 k's to start his pro career)
Rojas 5 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's
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RE: Mets #12??  
DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15281623 sshin05 said:
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Maybe its because their run differential isn't special?


The Yankees are 31-29, 2-8 over their last 10, -4 run differential... and ahead of the Mets...
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DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 1:59 pm : link
He's been awful but I'd buy low on Locastro. Very worst case is a game-changing pinch-running option.
re:Baty  
DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 3:37 pm : link
Kevin Goldstein
@Kevin_Goldstein
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I think you're hoping for a 40. Just put him at 1B and let him rake....
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DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 3:39 pm : link
Kevin Goldstein
@Kevin_Goldstein
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He's improved there, but for me it's just gone from "no way in hell" to "probably not".
Kelenic  
pjcas18 : 6/7/2021 4:19 pm : link
sent down to AAA Tacoma.

I don't take any joy in that, and I think he'll be great in MLB, but a disastrous start to his career.
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DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 4:36 pm : link
Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57
RE: 2  
Everyone Relax : 6/7/2021 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15281760 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57

A bit surprised Baty isnt on there, but then again it doesnt really matter for anything other than water cooler talk.
RE: RE: 2  
Metnut : 6/7/2021 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15281772 Everyone Relax said:
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In comment 15281760 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57


A bit surprised Baty isnt on there, but then again it doesnt really matter for anything other than water cooler talk.


I’d be surprised if there was much more than 50 guys on that list that the Mets would trade Baty for right at this moment.
My  
DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 5:01 pm : link
guess is 1. They view him as a future 1b (which obviously has less value than 3b) and 2. This list was in the works for a while and his monster week didn't change much.
Mauricio  
DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 5:03 pm : link
is the kind of sexy "projectable" prospect that tends to do well on these lists. His upside is immense but 32.7% k rate, 3.7% walk rate, and questions about future position put his floor rather low. There are arguments for all 3 of the Mets top 3 depending on what you value.
More interesting ?? is  
DanMetroMan : 6/7/2021 5:05 pm : link
Who would you rank @Mets #4 prospect...? the player has to be currently healthy and playing. It's a tough one. No clear answer to me.
RE: More interesting ?? is  
allstarjim : 6/7/2021 5:30 pm : link
In comment 15281788 DanMetroMan said:
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Who would you rank @Mets #4 prospect...? the player has to be currently healthy and playing. It's a tough one. No clear answer to me.


I know the TJ surgery is pushing him back, but I suppose I'd still say Matt Allan.
RE: Mauricio  
Shecky : 6/7/2021 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15281787 DanMetroMan said:
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is the kind of sexy "projectable" prospect that tends to do well on these lists. His upside is immense but 32.7% k rate, 3.7% walk rate, and questions about future position put his floor rather low. There are arguments for all 3 of the Mets top 3 depending on what you value.


Mauricio moving up will be fascinating to watch, as he sees more breaking balls. Can he adjust? If so, watch out. If not? Think late career Jose.
Allan and PCA are still 4 +5 for me  
Eric on Li : 6/7/2021 6:21 pm : link
yes the injuries suck and add risk but all prospects carry risk. Their upside is generally what counts more than what could go wrong. PCA has the instincts and athleticism to be a true plus CF. Allan is a potential top of rotation SP. The injuries may delay their timing and add risk but neither was around the corner either way having only been drafted out of HS in the last 2 drafts.

6 + 7 are Vientos and Ginn, and you can either rank Lee ahead of them or below them. Though I think if you're ranking him ahead it's probably because he's already debuted which is a little unfair to count as a positive but not "graduate" him.

Unrelated (but not) this was an interesting stat among all Met minor leaguers. The Vientos/Baty numbers are interesting given the age/comp levels.

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Jacob Resnick
@Jacob_Resnick
#Mets minor league leaders in XBH% (XBH/balls in play, min. 40 BIP):

Hayden Senger - 23.9
David Thompson - 20.6
Carlos Cortes - 20.5
Ronny Mauricio - 19.1
Mason Williams - 19.0
Brett Baty - 17.7
Jake Mangum - 17.5
Joe Genord - 16.7
Mark Vientos - 16.1
Francisco Álvarez - 15.9
Genord  
Shecky : 6/7/2021 6:28 pm : link
Fun bat to watch, but who stands virtually no chance to ever even get a cup of coffee
Baty not in top 100 is a joke  
KDavies : 6/7/2021 8:02 pm : link
but whatever. Honestly, I could see an argument for him above Mauricio
RE: Genord  
Eric on Li : 6/7/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15281834 Shecky said:
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Fun bat to watch, but who stands virtually no chance to ever even get a cup of coffee


I mean XHB% may as well be called the "fun to watch" stat.
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DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 1:46 pm : link
Parra
Rennie
Lasko
TBD

Almora expected to be in the lineup for Syracuse

-Seidler has Baty sticking at 3b and a potential offensive "monster". Longenhagen/Goldstein less sure he sticks at 3b.
Is the thought on Baty that if he moves off...  
Italianju : 6/8/2021 1:57 pm : link
3B it will be to 1B? Any chance for OF. I know things can change by the time he is MLB ready, but we really dont need more first basemen, ha.
RE: Is the thought on Baty that if he moves off...  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15282520 Italianju said:
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3B it will be to 1B? Any chance for OF. I know things can change by the time he is MLB ready, but we really dont need more first basemen, ha.


If he moves off of 3b he's going to be a 1b. Baty is a below average runner.
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DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 2:18 pm : link
Mets second baseman Jeff McNeil continues to improve and could begin a rehab assignment this week, according to people familiar with the plan.
Thanks Dan...  
Italianju : 6/8/2021 2:18 pm : link
bummer...ha. Hope he can stick at 3B. At least play a passable third
RE: Thanks Dan...  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15282533 Italianju said:
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bummer...ha. Hope he can stick at 3B. At least play a passable third


I can't imagine a scenario he's not at least given a chance to fail at 3b (unless blocked by somebody they add).
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DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 2:35 pm : link
For those wondering Yasiel Puig has been mediocre in Mexico. 80th in OPS.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 3:26 pm : link
release Lindsay
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 4:44 pm : link
Tim Britton
@TimBritton
Mets rehab updates:

*Albert Almora Jr. starts a rehab assignment with Syracuse tonight.

*Luis Guillorme could be activated as soon as Friday.

*Jeff McNeil may start a rehab with Syracuse as soon as Friday.
Conforto  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 4:45 pm : link
not close "a few weeks" from beginning a rehab assignment.
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DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 4:47 pm : link
So realistically Conforto will be back post-all-star break
What a disaster  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2021 6:19 pm : link
of a season for Conforto and Syndergaard in contract years.

Stroman the opposite.

Obviously Conforto has the 2nd half (if he ever comes back) to offer some correction, but not really the case with Noah.

I wonder how the Mets handle, buy low on short-er term deals, QO, let walk?

Coming in to the year I would have said re-sign Conforto and Syndergaard and let Stro walk - can't offer him the QO anyway.

but now, not likely. I think they almost have to re-sign Stro at this point.

I also wonder (and I know it's probably not likely) if CLE knew anything about Carrasco and his injury. Almost seemed to good to be true to get him included in the trade.
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pjcas18 : 6/8/2021 6:22 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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Mets have 2 of the top 6 hitters in all of Minor League Baseball (482 hitters) by wRC+

4. Brett Baty 195
6. Francisco Álvarez 192

Álvarez is the second youngest player out of the 482 minor league hitters with at least 100 plate appearances.
Polar bear getting on a roll right now would be real nice  
Eric on Li : 6/8/2021 7:18 pm : link
including his 2 run homer tonight he's still pacing just below 30 homers and 90 rbis. But 1 hot streak and he'll be on his usual pace. Especially if they can get McNeil back and start lengthening the lineup again.
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 6/8/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15282700 pjcas18 said:
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Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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4h
Mets have 2 of the top 6 hitters in all of Minor League Baseball (482 hitters) by wRC+

4. Brett Baty 195
6. Francisco Álvarez 192

Álvarez is the second youngest player out of the 482 minor league hitters with at least 100 plate appearances.


I can't imagine any team in baseball has a better assortment of IF prospects. They have 3 high end prospects and a handful of interesting depth guys behind that. The OF and P need more but the IF is legit. Obviously hard to project the minors relative to big league needs but I would definitely be prioritizing multi-year $ into the P and OF over IF. Though I'd be open to early extensions for McNeil + Alonso to tack on a few FA years if the value is there.
I  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:37 pm : link
Love prospects and I wouldn’t give up the house but I’d include Mauricio as a headliner for Marte. He’s a stud. 140 OPS+ since 2019, that would be number one in the Mets lineup. Signed for 2 more. That being said apparently “half the league” has called Arizona so...
RE: RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15282721 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15282700 pjcas18 said:


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Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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4h
Mets have 2 of the top 6 hitters in all of Minor League Baseball (482 hitters) by wRC+

4. Brett Baty 195
6. Francisco Álvarez 192

Álvarez is the second youngest player out of the 482 minor league hitters with at least 100 plate appearances.



I can't imagine any team in baseball has a better assortment of IF prospects. They have 3 high end prospects and a handful of interesting depth guys behind that. The OF and P need more but the IF is legit. Obviously hard to project the minors relative to big league needs but I would definitely be prioritizing multi-year $ into the P and OF over IF. Though I'd be open to early extensions for McNeil + Alonso to tack on a few FA years if the value is there.


TB does. Franco, Brujan, Edwards. All are top 50 prospects.
Sorry Law has Edwards at 52  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:44 pm : link
6. Xavier Edwards, SS/2B (Top 100 rank: No. 52)

From the Top 100: Edwards went to Tampa Bay in the Tommy Pham trade but has yet to play a pro game for the Rays due to the pandemic. He’s a natural shortstop who played more second base in the Padres’ system, although the Rays might try him back at shortstop to maintain some versatility and see if his speed and arm stroke are good enough to play there. He’s a plus runner with great bat-to-ball skills and quick wrists, generating good bat speed that should translate into fringe-average power when he fills out — although without that, he’s going to have a hard time generating enough extra-base power to be a regular. His ultimate ceiling depends on that, and whether he stays at short, or perhaps becomes a plus defender at second or even in center field.
Fangraphs  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:46 pm : link
Has Franco 1, Brujan 24 and Edwards 24 but the point remains. At minimum the Rays do.
Please send Peterson to minors  
Mike in NY : 6/8/2021 7:49 pm : link
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RE: Please send Peterson to minors  
KDavies : 6/8/2021 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15282735 Mike in NY said:
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He needs to be on a short leash with a week with 2 off days
Peterson’s  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:53 pm : link
Indicators are absolutely awful. He has to be removed from the rotation.
anyone see Ke’Bryan Hayes?  
KDavies : 6/8/2021 7:56 pm : link
hit a HR, missed 1B. Called out on replay
I have repeatedly said that I have disliked Peterson since  
bhill410 : 6/8/2021 7:56 pm : link
The second he was drafted, but I am not sure who the heck you can throw in his stead.
His  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:57 pm : link
Expected era is probably over 6 after today. These are brutal
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RE: I have repeatedly said that I have disliked Peterson since  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15282745 bhill410 said:
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The second he was drafted, but I am not sure who the heck you can throw in his stead.


Can’t use that as an excuse to keep running out a 6 era guy who is averaging 4.2 innings per start.
Eickhoff  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 7:59 pm : link
Szapucki, Megill, minor trade. This can’t be the answer every 5th day
Hey DMM, what are the indicators on Lucchesi?  
CooperDash : 6/8/2021 8:03 pm : link
He’s another 6+ ERA pitcher that can’t go past 4 innings per start (if even). IMO, they both need to be replaced immediately.
RE: Hey DMM, what are the indicators on Lucchesi?  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15282750 CooperDash said:
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He’s another 6+ ERA pitcher that can’t go past 4 innings per start (if even). IMO, they both need to be replaced immediately.


Significantly better (linked)
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RE: Hey DMM, what are the indicators on Lucchesi?  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2021 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15282750 CooperDash said:
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He’s another 6+ ERA pitcher that can’t go past 4 innings per start (if even). IMO, they both need to be replaced immediately.


I’m not defending Lucchesi fwiw. Neither should be in the rotation.
Marte  
five5 : 6/8/2021 8:12 pm : link
Is an awful defensive OFer. Terrific offensive player but no thanks in CF
RE: RE: Hey DMM, what are the indicators on Lucchesi?  
CooperDash : 6/8/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15282754 DanMetroMan said:
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He’s another 6+ ERA pitcher that can’t go past 4 innings per start (if even). IMO, they both need to be replaced immediately.



I’m not defending Lucchesi fwiw. Neither should be in the rotation.


I hear ya. It’s hard trotting out these two guys each week. Not sure what the issue is with making a change. It almost seems like the Mets are resting on the fact that they are in first place and trying to hold the line until they get some pitchers back. Otherwise, I just don’t get it.
5 doubles given up  
KDavies : 6/8/2021 8:22 pm : link
and doesn’t make it through 3. At the very least, he needs to be on a real short leash. A lot shorter than he was tonight
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