NFT: Mets Minors 6/7/2021- Cyclones go HAM this weekend

are merely "fun" but Alvarez is certainly "in the mix" for the 2nd best C prospect in baseball

Senger really busting out this year. He was from the same draft as Cortes. Unlikely to be claimed in Rule 5 Draft but he can actually play the position defensively unlikely Mazeika if bat proves enough before overpaying for Nido.

has had a nice start but his new monster K rate is worrisome.If you're striking out 33% of your A+/AA ab's, what does that look like vs. MLB pitching? I agree he's good depth to have as Mazeika is essentially a C in name only.

lends towards the theory he isn't ready for MLB pitching quite yet. I do have a feeling he may be a Lewis Brinson type though. Hope I am wrong.

3 weeks is pushing it on Baty. Any reason you can't see him before that? On the bright side, you will still be able to hopefully catch Mauricio/Alvarez.

In comment 15281491 KDavies said:

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lends towards the theory he isn't ready for MLB pitching quite yet. I do have a feeling he may be a Lewis Brinson type though. Hope I am wrong. 3 weeks is pushing it on Baty. Any reason you can't see him before that? On the bright side, you will still be able to hopefully catch Mauricio/Alvarez.

No real reason, Coney Island is just a pain in the ass to get to and I already have tickets. Flip side... first CitiField game since 2019 this upcoming weekend and I can't wait. As for Lee, I think he's going to end up a very solid 4th OF for this team. He was rushed a bit. I do wish they would give him more time in CF. The concensus was he at worst was a solid CF, if he's "only" a CO it's limiting. He's not likely a big league starter in a corner (though it's of course possible)

Nimmo is one of 12 players to post multiple 140 wRC+ seasons over the last three years. The other 11 players are Mike Trout and Anthony Rendon (3) and Alex Bregman, Christian Yelich, George Springer, Jose Ramirez, Juan Soto, Manny Machado, Mookie Betts, Nelson Cruz and Paul Goldschmidt.
Nimmo is one of 31 players to produce two qualified seasons with total production worth at least four WAR per 162 games in the last three seasons. The only players who have accumulated three such seasons in that span are Betts, Xander Bogaerts, Michael Brantley, Freddie Freeman, Yasmani Grandal, Francisco Lindor, Jose Ramirez, J.T. Realmuto, Anthony Rendon, Mike Trout, Trea Turner and Trevor Story.

yeah, I see him as a 4th OF type. He really has every tool but the hit tool. I am holding out hope that comes around, as he could be a very valuable player if it does. Though, I think it more likely it doesn't

Hopefully deGrom on Friday

not saying you don't try to resign him just that you really need to consider whatever the opportunity cost is because they likely can't pay everyone on the current roster market rate once they hit FA.

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Francisco Lindor over his last 24 games: .269/.330/.462 with 11 extra-base hits (4 HR), 10 RBI, four steals, 19 runs scored.

BTW - That's a 24-homer, 24-steal, 114 runs scored pace over a full 162-game season.

In comment 15281508 KDavies said:

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Hopefully deGrom on Friday

I actually was offered tickets to any of the 3 games (someone can't make it) so yeah the Friday game looks like the one I'll pick (for obvious reasons) just eying the weather as Friday may rain.

In comment 15281509 Eric on Li said:

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not saying you don't try to resign him just that you really need to consider whatever the opportunity cost is because they likely can't pay everyone on the current roster market rate once they hit FA.

I'd hope his general fragility would be one reason he might sign this off-season vs. waiting, and maybe you get something of a discount as he takes cost certainty.

in AAA to play CF and presumably keep working at the position. They don’t have anyone else in AAA who needs to play there right? Let Lee play CF for Cuse and see if it works out. Seems weird to not play him much there give the scouting reports.

Baty should be at AA this year right? Most aggressive/optimistic timeframe for him would be a quick promotion to AAA early 2022 and we’d see him late June-August with Mets in 2022 with 2023 being a more likely realistic debut for him?

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yeah, I see him as a 4th OF type. He really has every tool but the hit tool. I am holding out hope that comes around, as he could be a very valuable player if it does. Though, I think it more likely it doesn't

I don't think the Mets (based on ST) possibly could have believed he was ready to help. They were extremely desperate (as we all know). I think they should pick up JaCoby Jones (just DFAed)

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in AAA to play CF and presumably keep working at the position. They don’t have anyone else in AAA who needs to play there right? Let Lee play CF for Cuse and see if it works out. Seems weird to not play him much there give the scouting reports. Baty should be at AA this year right? Most aggressive/optimistic timeframe for him would be a quick promotion to AAA early 2022 and we’d see him late June-August with Mets in 2022 with 2023 being a more likely realistic debut for him?

Syracuse is mostly without prospects, so if they wanted him in CF he wouldn't be blocking anybody. As for Bsty, yes he looks ready for AA. Expectation would be him playing the remainder of the year there. Unless he's absolutely destroying the upper minors it's extremely unlikely he'd be called up before 2022 as he's not even Rule 5 eligible until next season.

If the Mets decide they need help at 3b this season it will almost certainly be external and not hoping for the best with a prospect.

don't have a subscription to BP but Jeffrey Paternostro says the Mets top 3 prospects might be the best top 3 in the sport.

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don't have a subscription to BP but Jeffrey Paternostro says the Mets top 3 prospects might be the best top 3 in the sport.

That's high praise. Seattle has had Kelenic and Gilbert graduate, so Mets at least have to be top 3 or 4 there. TB would be hard to beat with Franco, Brujan, choice of 3rd. Padres also with Abrams, Gore, choice of 3rd. KC with Witt, Lacy, choice of 3rd.

with Rutschman, Rodriguez, +3rd guy

traded for Grayson Rodriguez in my dynasty league, guy oddly refused to give up George Kirby but was fine giving up Rodriguez.

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yeah, I see him as a 4th OF type. He really has every tool but the hit tool. I am holding out hope that comes around, as he could be a very valuable player if it does. Though, I think it more likely it doesn't

That’s what I think too. But Dan posted that thing from Keith Law, where Law described Lee as having plus power potential. Law is arrogant but does generally know what he is talking about. So maybe Lee does have a higher ceiling

Cortes the Killer. He's not a big guy, but he must have a power-packed swing.

Move over Vientos.....make room for Baty.

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Age 22.8 Height 5′ 10″ Weight 200 Bat / Thr L / L FV 45
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Lee was a two-way high schooler with more of a leadoff skillset until he got yoked as a senior and showed up to the AZL with surprising power. He had four years of statistical success while with Kansas City but his in-game power output has come down as he’s climbed. During Lee’s 2019 season at Double-A, he hit .264/.363/.372 with a 12% walk rate and a whopping 53 steals. Then Lee spent 2020 at the Royals’ alternate site and went to play winter ball in Puerto Rico for the second consecutive offseason. He didn’t hit well there but did look pretty good in center field. In February, Lee was part of the Andrew Benintendi three-team deal and ended up with the Mets.

He wasn’t as good during his few defensive opportunities this spring and, as he always has, Lee continues to strike out a lot. He is a power-over-hit type of prospect who takes giant hacks, often falling to one knee as he finishes. His big, long, uppercut swing and huge bat speed generate considerable raw power but also lead to lots of strikeouts, and he can really only lift pitches in the bottom of the strike zone. He has the tools of a three true outcomes right fielder, one who potentially plays above-average corner outfield defense. Maybe some of this is due to how intense his swings are, but I get 40-grade run times on Lee from home to first, and I don’t see him stealing a ton of bases or playing center field in the big leagues. The quality of his at-bats against elite competition has been mixed, at best. It’s likely going to take a swing adjustment to get Lee hitting for relevant power in games. I think he could be the larger half of a corner platoon if either more of that pop shows up in games or Lee’s approach eventually enables him to make more contact. (Alternate site, Puerto Rican Winter League)

to his swing Lee is unlikely to ever hit for above-average in-game power without adjustments made. He hits a very high % of ground balls.

In comment 15281486 DanMetroMan said:

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has had a nice start but his new monster K rate is worrisome.If you're striking out 33% of your A+/AA ab's, what does that look like vs. MLB pitching? I agree he's good depth to have as Mazeika is essentially a C in name only.

I am not looking for anything more than a depth piece, but for a 24th Round pick that is still more than is usaually accepted. Obviously needs to cut down strikeouts, but with 2020 being a washout for everyone it is good to see the hot start. Nobody is saying he is Yadier Molina behind the plate, but would be nice having an "in-house" fallback option in case Nido will cost too much money to sign as a back-up to McCann until Alvarez is ready to go.

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In comment 15281486 DanMetroMan said: Quote: has had a nice start but his new monster K rate is worrisome.If you're striking out 33% of your A+/AA ab's, what does that look like vs. MLB pitching? I agree he's good depth to have as Mazeika is essentially a C in name only. I am not looking for anything more than a depth piece, but for a 24th Round pick that is still more than is usaually accepted. Obviously needs to cut down strikeouts, but with 2020 being a washout for everyone it is good to see the hot start. Nobody is saying he is Yadier Molina behind the plate, but would be nice having an "in-house" fallback option in case Nido will cost too much money to sign as a back-up to McCann until Alvarez is ready to go.

No disagreement here. Catching depth is never a bad thing.

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Maybe its because their run differential isn't special?

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Maybe its because their run differential isn't special?

The Yankees are 31-29, 2-8 over their last 10, -4 run differential... and ahead of the Mets...

He's been awful but I'd buy low on Locastro. Very worst case is a game-changing pinch-running option.

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I think you're hoping for a 40. Just put him at 1B and let him rake....

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He's improved there, but for me it's just gone from "no way in hell" to "probably not".

sent down to AAA Tacoma.

I don't take any joy in that, and I think he'll be great in MLB, but a disastrous start to his career.

Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57

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Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57

A bit surprised Baty isnt on there, but then again it doesnt really matter for anything other than water cooler talk.

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In comment 15281760 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Mets make baseball america's latest top 100. Alvarez 21, Mauricio 57 A bit surprised Baty isnt on there, but then again it doesnt really matter for anything other than water cooler talk.

I’d be surprised if there was much more than 50 guys on that list that the Mets would trade Baty for right at this moment.

guess is 1. They view him as a future 1b (which obviously has less value than 3b) and 2. This list was in the works for a while and his monster week didn't change much.

is the kind of sexy "projectable" prospect that tends to do well on these lists. His upside is immense but 32.7% k rate, 3.7% walk rate, and questions about future position put his floor rather low. There are arguments for all 3 of the Mets top 3 depending on what you value.

Who would you rank @Mets #4 prospect...? the player has to be currently healthy and playing. It's a tough one. No clear answer to me.

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Who would you rank @Mets #4 prospect...? the player has to be currently healthy and playing. It's a tough one. No clear answer to me.

I know the TJ surgery is pushing him back, but I suppose I'd still say Matt Allan.

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is the kind of sexy "projectable" prospect that tends to do well on these lists. His upside is immense but 32.7% k rate, 3.7% walk rate, and questions about future position put his floor rather low. There are arguments for all 3 of the Mets top 3 depending on what you value.

Mauricio moving up will be fascinating to watch, as he sees more breaking balls. Can he adjust? If so, watch out. If not? Think late career Jose.

yes the injuries suck and add risk but all prospects carry risk. Their upside is generally what counts more than what could go wrong. PCA has the instincts and athleticism to be a true plus CF. Allan is a potential top of rotation SP. The injuries may delay their timing and add risk but neither was around the corner either way having only been drafted out of HS in the last 2 drafts.

6 + 7 are Vientos and Ginn, and you can either rank Lee ahead of them or below them. Though I think if you're ranking him ahead it's probably because he's already debuted which is a little unfair to count as a positive but not "graduate" him.

Unrelated (but not) this was an interesting stat among all Met minor leaguers. The Vientos/Baty numbers are interesting given the age/comp levels.

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Jacob Resnick @Jacob_Resnick #Mets minor league leaders in XBH% (XBH/balls in play, min. 40 BIP): Hayden Senger - 23.9 David Thompson - 20.6 Carlos Cortes - 20.5 Ronny Mauricio - 19.1 Mason Williams - 19.0 Brett Baty - 17.7 Jake Mangum - 17.5 Joe Genord - 16.7 Mark Vientos - 16.1 Francisco Álvarez - 15.9

Fun bat to watch, but who stands virtually no chance to ever even get a cup of coffee

but whatever. Honestly, I could see an argument for him above Mauricio

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Fun bat to watch, but who stands virtually no chance to ever even get a cup of coffee

I mean XHB% may as well be called the "fun to watch" stat.

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Almora expected to be in the lineup for Syracuse

-Seidler has Baty sticking at 3b and a potential offensive "monster". Longenhagen/Goldstein less sure he sticks at 3b.

3B it will be to 1B? Any chance for OF. I know things can change by the time he is MLB ready, but we really dont need more first basemen, ha.

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3B it will be to 1B? Any chance for OF. I know things can change by the time he is MLB ready, but we really dont need more first basemen, ha.

If he moves off of 3b he's going to be a 1b. Baty is a below average runner.

Mets second baseman Jeff McNeil continues to improve and could begin a rehab assignment this week, according to people familiar with the plan.

bummer...ha. Hope he can stick at 3B. At least play a passable third

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bummer...ha. Hope he can stick at 3B. At least play a passable third

I can't imagine a scenario he's not at least given a chance to fail at 3b (unless blocked by somebody they add).