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PFN’s Ben Rolf lists WR Shepard as a potential cut or trade

Modzelewski : 6/7/2021 1:42 pm
With the Jones trade, rumors are rampant regarding cuts and trades to reduce teams salary caps, post June 1st. Sterling Shepard is listed as one of his potential cuts or trades.


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Don't think they'll cut him  
JonC : 6/7/2021 1:47 pm : link
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Don't see it happening  
bc4life : 6/7/2021 1:48 pm : link
WR coach loves him. The others are unproven commodities (in this system). Even Slayton
Why would they do this?  
mittenedman : 6/7/2021 1:49 pm : link
The Giants expect to win this year and Shepard makes them a better football team.
Don't think this guy has a clue  
ZogZerg : 6/7/2021 1:50 pm : link
Highly doubt it.
yeah -- this would be a bad cut in the Giants lexicon  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/7/2021 1:50 pm : link
Shep has been true blue, is never a problem and it a leader on the team
We are one WR injury away from a  
ATL_Giants : 6/7/2021 1:52 pm : link
shoestring position group at WR. Our RB & TE's can catch, which is great, but if Golladay goes out I think we're looking at a below avg position group.

I'm not doomsday forecasting, nor am I pessimistic about our team. But cutting Shepard would be hella' optimistic about our personnel.
Seems like he'd be the # one wr  
bc4life : 6/7/2021 1:52 pm : link
you'd want to retain to help Toney
Plus now that ther are other legitimate targets  
bc4life : 6/7/2021 1:54 pm : link
He should be even more effective.
Agree with other posters, the coaches love him  
sb from NYT Forum : 6/7/2021 1:55 pm : link
...he is a professional, hard worker and leader to the young WRs.

They also don't save all that much money if they cut him. And no one would trade for him.
One year premature.  
Big Blue Blogger : 6/7/2021 1:55 pm : link
2022? Sure, unless he has a good year. 2021? Makes very little sense.
makes zero sense  
Joey from GlenCove : 6/7/2021 1:55 pm : link
golladay played 5 games last year. why would you deplete this group that has a lot to prove?
dead cap doesn't make sense  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2021 1:56 pm : link
until after this season
Makes no sense  
jvm52106 : 6/7/2021 1:56 pm : link
now based on all that we have done. Now, maybe at the trade deadline if the Giants think they are fine with what they have as he most certainly will not be on the team in 2022.
Idiotic  
BillT : 6/7/2021 1:59 pm : link
Cutting Shepard post June 1 saves $2.975m. Not worth it and leaves us thin at a position we need all our players. Next year maybe if Tioney works out and it saves $8m. I doubt it even than but at least it would make some sense. This doesn’t.
Yep but next year, not this one  
Jimmy Googs : 6/7/2021 2:04 pm : link
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RE: Don't think they'll cut him  
UberAlias : 6/7/2021 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15281639 JonC said:
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What about trade? For me I would very surprised if they moved him. It was a priority to give DJ some weapons, moving one of your leaders seems like a step backwards. This season, at least.
don't be surprised if you hear lots of "national" commentators  
Giantsfan79 : 6/7/2021 2:09 pm : link
saying Shepard could be a cut because if you look at the depth chart and additions the NYG made, Shepard's role in the offense is likely to decrease. An analyst looks at that and puts Shepard on their cut list.
What’s the why? I don’t understand how you can cut or trade Shep  
glowrider : 6/7/2021 2:12 pm : link
Before the season starts. Unless I am misreading things, we are a couple mil or so under the cap right now with everyone signed, and if we are to sign anyone else, we can prob do it. Sure, DG wants space into the season, but Shep?
Perhaps the most overrated receiver in recent memory  
widmerseyebrow : 6/7/2021 2:17 pm : link
But I doubt they cut him simply because the position is weak and there is no fat to trim so to speak.
RE: don't be surprised if you hear lots of  
The Jake : 6/7/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15281676 Giantsfan79 said:
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saying Shepard could be a cut because if you look at the depth chart and additions the NYG made, Shepard's role in the offense is likely to decrease. An analyst looks at that and puts Shepard on their cut list.


I agree. This is nothing more than a shallow reaction to our off-season moves.
RE: Perhaps the most overrated receiver in recent memory  
giants#1 : 6/7/2021 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15281685 widmerseyebrow said:
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But I doubt they cut him simply because the position is weak and there is no fat to trim so to speak.


Amari Cooper is way more overrated (and overpaid). Landry too.
Not a chance  
MtDizzle : 6/7/2021 2:40 pm : link
in hell he gets cut before the season. I can definitely see that happening next offseason.
RE: RE: Perhaps the most overrated receiver in recent memory  
widmerseyebrow : 6/7/2021 2:48 pm : link
In comment 15281694 giants#1 said:
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In comment 15281685 widmerseyebrow said:


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But I doubt they cut him simply because the position is weak and there is no fat to trim so to speak.



Amari Cooper is way more overrated (and overpaid). Landry too.



I meant on the Giants, but I would also disagree with your examples as those two have actually had years of starter-level production.
RE: yeah -- this would be a bad cut in the Giants lexicon  
90.Cal : 6/7/2021 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15281647 gidiefor said:
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Shep has been true blue, is never a problem and it a leader on the team


End of the day he averages like 5 missed games per season and only 9 yards per catch and has never lead us to a record that even sniffed .500 but alrighty...

If someone offers a day 2 pick (maybe even day 3) and will pay the majority of his salary... he should be out the door in a hurry, just my opinion.

I want to see Ross and Toney with the ball in their hands before Shepard... they are way more dangerous...

Has Shepard ever made anyone miss after a catch? Ok I'm done...
RE: RE: RE: Perhaps the most overrated receiver in recent memory  
giants#1 : 6/7/2021 3:01 pm : link
In comment 15281703 widmerseyebrow said:
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But I doubt they cut him simply because the position is weak and there is no fat to trim so to speak.



Amari Cooper is way more overrated (and overpaid). Landry too.




I meant on the Giants, but I would also disagree with your examples as those two have actually had years of starter-level production.


If you're restricting it to the Giants, that's fair. But SS was a solid #2 in 2018 (his last healthy season). Cooper's a better WR than SS, not he's not twice as good and certainly not worth $20M per (still the 4th highest paid WR).

Landry is maybe marginally better, he just gets more volume. Certainly not worth 50% more than SS though.
I don’t think Shepard is overrated or underrated.  
Big Blue Blogger : 6/7/2021 3:04 pm : link
He is what he was expected to be coming out of Oklahoma. I think he was over-drafted at #40, considering his known limitations, and somewhat overpaid on his second contract. Overall, though, he’s a WYSIWYG player. His draft profile remains accurate five years later. It’s not his fault that the QB and the star receiver he was drafted to complement both went into freefall right around the time he arrived.
Don't see a cut coming  
Lines of Scrimmage : 6/7/2021 3:07 pm : link
but possibly a trade if someone steps up in camp that was unexpected or a injury occurs at another position. Maybe for a lineman if that unit struggles.

The question is what value would he have with his injury history but you never know. Some team who plans on competing loses a couple WR's maybe they pursue.
90.cal  
Big Blue Blogger : 6/7/2021 3:14 pm : link
90.Cal said:
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Has Shepard ever made anyone miss after a catch? Ok I'm done...
Yes. Yes he has.
One example. - ( New Window )
RE: I don’t think Shepard is overrated or underrated.  
giants#1 : 6/7/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15281714 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He is what he was expected to be coming out of Oklahoma. I think he was over-drafted at #40, considering his known limitations, and somewhat overpaid on his second contract. Overall, though, he’s a WYSIWYG player. His draft profile remains accurate five years later. It’s not his fault that the QB and the star receiver he was drafted to complement both went into freefall right around the time he arrived.


Only point I'd quibble over, is that getting a WR that can give you 900 yds/year when healthy is worthy of the #40 slot. Even his 2nd contract was solid for that level of production. His problems are: 1) Michael Thomas went a few picks later and 2) he can't play 16 games.
I believe the currwent year prorated signing bonus  
WillieYoung : 6/7/2021 3:20 pm : link
counts against the cap even with a post June 1 cut/trade. if so the cap savings is only $975,000. Dumb move either way.
Oops. 2.925 cap saving this year  
WillieYoung : 6/7/2021 3:24 pm : link
not $925 even if current year signing bonus vests. Still a bad move.
RE: I don’t think Shepard is overrated or underrated.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/7/2021 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15281714 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He is what he was expected to be coming out of Oklahoma. I think he was over-drafted at #40, considering his known limitations, and somewhat overpaid on his second contract. Overall, though, he’s a WYSIWYG player. His draft profile remains accurate five years later. It’s not his fault that the QB and the star receiver he was drafted to complement both went into freefall right around the time he arrived.


I'd agree with that. There's no need for hyperbole to say he's extremely good or that he's overrated. I bet for his draft position, he's been an average player. He's a solid WR who is dependable when he plays. He's also been an injured player who probably should have not been resigned at the price.
And cutting..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/7/2021 3:29 pm : link
him this season doesn't make sense, which leads me to believe Ben Rolf doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Looks good on paper  
Biteymax22 : 6/7/2021 3:38 pm : link
When you compare contract $$ to stats.

Beyond that when you start adding things in like cap hits, dead money and his other intangibles (leadership, blocking) it tells us we're better off keeping him.

Next offseason, maybe, but he plays this year for us.
RE: And cutting..  
eric2425ny : 6/7/2021 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15281729 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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him this season doesn't make sense, which leads me to believe Ben Rolf doesn't really know what he's talking about.


Exactly, they would take a huge cap hit. Next year I think he may be cut if they need money for other areas. Not this season. It would be flushing money down the toilet. Shepard is a solid player when healthy.
Just looked and Shep's annual salary starts creeping up  
Jimmy Googs : 6/7/2021 4:04 pm : link
next year so he is undoubtedly going to be under scrutiny and likely released next offseason.

His second contract wasn't awful when announced but looking back now he likely didn't earn all of it. But always puts forth good effort when he plays, decent hands and hustling downfield blocker too.

Still has enough shake that he can get open from slot or multiple receiver formation. Just never has enough bake as too often slips and stumbles on his breaks/cuts moving upfield.
I think that, beyond the stst, he's been a good security blanket  
Bill L : 6/7/2021 4:18 pm : link
for both of his QBs. I think that has value.
LOL no  
D HOS : 6/7/2021 4:19 pm : link
Maybe next offseason. This year Shep is a key part of our offense.
RE: Just looked and Shep's annual salary starts creeping up  
eric2425ny : 6/7/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15281741 Jimmy Googs said:
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next year so he is undoubtedly going to be under scrutiny and likely released next offseason.

His second contract wasn't awful when announced but looking back now he likely didn't earn all of it. But always puts forth good effort when he plays, decent hands and hustling downfield blocker too.

Still has enough shake that he can get open from slot or multiple receiver formation. Just never has enough bake as too often slips and stumbles on his breaks/cuts moving upfield.


Good summary, totally agree.
He wasn't especially durable in college either.  
Big Blue Blogger : 6/7/2021 4:40 pm : link
He was drafted on the strength of his monster senior year. But his junior year was just as good - until a groin injury early in a game against Iowa State (on a 46-yard catch, BTW) cost him most of that game plus the next two and made him a non-factor in the Sooners' bowl game. IIRC, he was dinged his sophomore year too.
RE: We are one WR injury away from a  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/7/2021 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15281648 ATL_Giants said:
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shoestring position group at WR. Our RB & TE's can catch, which is great, but if Golladay goes out I think we're looking at a below avg position group.

I'm not doomsday forecasting, nor am I pessimistic about our team. But cutting Shepard would be hella' optimistic about our personnel.

The flip side to that argument is that Shepard might be the WR most likely to be that injury.

It's not like he's the epitome of reliable availability on the injury report.
He is underrated  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/7/2021 6:33 pm : link
He is dependable. He is smart. He blocks his ass off. If you watch any of saquan’s long runs, Shepard is usually laying someone out.
Why would they cut him?  
WestCoastGFan : 6/7/2021 7:20 pm : link
This offseason was about adding weapons for DJ, not taking them away.
RE: 90.cal  
90.Cal : 6/7/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15281717 Big Blue Blogger said:
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90.Cal said:

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Has Shepard ever made anyone miss after a catch? Ok I'm done...

Yes. Yes he has. One example. - ( New Window )


Your example was from 2017... and he didn't exactly make a man miss... that was speed but ok.
RE: RE: I don’t think Shepard is overrated or underrated.  
90.Cal : 6/7/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15281721 giants#1 said:
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In comment 15281714 Big Blue Blogger said:


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He is what he was expected to be coming out of Oklahoma. I think he was over-drafted at #40, considering his known limitations, and somewhat overpaid on his second contract. Overall, though, he’s a WYSIWYG player. His draft profile remains accurate five years later. It’s not his fault that the QB and the star receiver he was drafted to complement both went into freefall right around the time he arrived.



Only point I'd quibble over, is that getting a WR that can give you 900 yds/year when healthy is worthy of the #40 slot. Even his 2nd contract was solid for that level of production. His problems are: 1) Michael Thomas went a few picks later and 2) he can't play 16 games.


Except he's never given us 900 yards qx yet alone 900 yds/year... hes gained 800 rec yards 1x in 5 years... this guy was supposed to be the next great slot WR, next Wes Welker type but it hasn't been close to that IMO.
he isnt going anywhere  
blueblood : 6/7/2021 10:28 pm : link
THIS year..
He’s not that good  
HomerJones45 : 6/7/2021 11:19 pm : link
Averaged less than 10 yards a catch, misses multiple games every year. If they need the cap space there is 4 million out there to be had for the taking by cutting what is a mediocre wideout.
He’s not been great  
Daniel in MI : 6/8/2021 6:34 am : link
But he’s the only WR last year that reached the league average of 3 yards separation. He also blocks his heart out. Watch highlights of Saquon’s big plays and Shep is throwing his body around.

As others said, makes little sense this year.

RE: He’s not been great  
HomerJones45 : 6/8/2021 7:05 am : link
In comment 15282073 Daniel in MI said:
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But he’s the only WR last year that reached the league average of 3 yards separation. He also blocks his heart out. Watch highlights of Saquon’s big plays and Shep is throwing his body around.

As others said, makes little sense this year.
For all his average separation, his longest reception was 29 yards. He's the #4 wideout and won't be here next year. You would think the team could find someone that might improve the team more for the cap savings.
RE: He is underrated  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/8/2021 7:26 am : link
In comment 15281839 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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He is dependable. He is smart. He blocks his ass off. If you watch any of saquan’s long runs, Shepard is usually laying someone out.

I don't know how you can call someone with Shepard's injury history "dependable."
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