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Former Giants HC Jim Fassel has passed away at age 71

Anakim : 6/8/2021 2:17 am
RIP to a wonderful coach and man
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RE: Larry  
Victor in CT : 6/8/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15282445 Eric from BBI said:
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just wrote an overview of Fassel's career for the front page...

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good job Larry as always!
RE: RE: Larry  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2021 1:06 pm : link
In comment 15282473 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 15282445 Eric from BBI said:


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just wrote an overview of Fassel's career for the front page...

Jim Fassel Passes Away - ( New Window )



good job Larry as always!


I told Larry he was being generous in ignoring the 1997 playoff disaster (Larry was at that game too).
RE: RE: RE: Larry  
Victor in CT : 6/8/2021 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15282474 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15282473 Victor in CT said:


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In comment 15282445 Eric from BBI said:


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just wrote an overview of Fassel's career for the front page...

Jim Fassel Passes Away - ( New Window )



good job Larry as always!



I told Larry he was being generous in ignoring the 1997 playoff disaster (Larry was at that game too).


LOL. Respect for the deceased i guess.
Maybe the open letter he wrote to BBI should be posted, as well.  
Britt in VA : 6/8/2021 1:37 pm : link
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I also look back fondly on the Fassel era  
Anakim : 6/8/2021 1:41 pm : link
I became a devoted, avid fan in 2001 when Jim Fassel was the HC. I look back at that time with wonder and despite us not being good during that time (we missed the playoffs in all those years, except 2002. Too bad we didn't play San Francisco, but alas, the game never happened....), there was a certain intimacy and mystique with those players. I never met Coach Fassel, but I met a few of the players in the Jim Fassel era.


A big part of me misses that time
RE: RE: Larry  
mfsd : 6/8/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15282473 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 15282445 Eric from BBI said:


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just wrote an overview of Fassel's career for the front page...

Jim Fassel Passes Away - ( New Window )



good job Larry as always!


+1

I didn't remember the Graham/Toomer story from when we ruined the Broncos perfect season in 98, great one.
RE: Maybe the open letter he wrote to BBI should be posted, as well.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2021 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15282501 Britt in VA said:
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I forgot all about that. Let me see if I can find it.
I was at that 2002 Giants-Eagles end of the year game  
Anakim : 6/8/2021 1:46 pm : link
God, it was FREEZING that day, but it was one of the most fun times I've ever had. What a win. And the roar from the stadium after Akers missed....




Too bad we never played the playoff game afterwards...
RE: Maybe the open letter he wrote to BBI should be posted, as well.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2021 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15282501 Britt in VA said:
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Unfortunately, I think it's gone. When we upgraded the site years ago, we lost years of "News and Notes" archives. I checked WayBackMachine but there is a gap in when I think he wrote it.
What was the open letter he wrote to BBI?  
Sean : 6/8/2021 1:53 pm : link
What was the context?
RE: awful  
OdellBeckhamJr : 6/8/2021 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15282297 Matt in SGS said:
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met him a few times and he was a nice guy in the various encounters. He used to live next to one of my college friends in Morristown and she baby sat his kids when his son hurt his throat running into a table and was in the hospital and she became close with the family.

I'm going to be posting Fassel highlights thru the day on the BigBlueVCR twitter if interested. RIP coach.


please, I love your account so much. You should make a Youtube channel if you haven't already.
RE: RIP Coach Fassel  
Lines of Scrimmage : 6/8/2021 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15282450 Dnew15 said:
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Fassel and Billick are two guys tied together by the that Super Bowl and, in my opinion, two guys that never got another shot to coach an NFL team - which to this today - I can't understand why.


Billick lost the team and I remember Ray Lewis saying at the end of what was BB's last year that he did not want him back. He did seem like a good motivator but he relied on that defense his entire time and he was hired as the hot shot OC.

Interesting BrB and Fassel were very good friends and he hired him to fix his offense and QB (Boller). That went to crap and then the "leaks" that Fassel was spending most of his time looking for a HC'ing job did not help matters on top of the other speculation that already existed.
RE: RE: Maybe the open letter he wrote to BBI should be posted, as well.  
Britt in VA : 6/8/2021 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15282513 Eric from BBI said:
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Unfortunately, I think it's gone. When we upgraded the site years ago, we lost years of "News and Notes" archives. I checked WayBackMachine but there is a gap in when I think he wrote it.


Bummer. That was nice of him to do that.
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christian : 6/8/2021 2:43 pm : link
That 2000 team was pretty special, and one of the really fun seasons for me to watch as a fan.

They won 14 games combined that year. To put in context the Giants have won 15 games in the last 3 years combined.

He was a good coach for the Giants and represented the team well after 9/11. And when it was all over he bowed out very graciously in my view.

His personal stuff, I wish would have stayed personal. I've always hated when stuff like that comes out.
RE: What was the open letter he wrote to BBI?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2021 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15282514 Sean said:
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What was the context?


Internet was still in its infancy and the few sites that covered the Giants at the time were even more important for bringing together Giants fans scattered around country and world. Fassel recognized that and wanted to thank us for our support of the team. The thank-you note was a total surprise at the time.
Eric, that is awesome.  
Sean : 6/8/2021 2:54 pm : link
Thanks for elaborating.
I hope on BigBlueVCR we get that 9-7 win against Washington in 2000  
dpinzow : 6/8/2021 3:01 pm : link
Washington was a favorite to go to the super bowl that year and the Giants defense went down there and crushed their offense all game
RE: Eric, that is awesome.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2021 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15282562 Sean said:
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Thanks for elaborating.


Internet was more of a "wild West" at the time. We had a number of team officials, ex-players, and player family members posting on the site back then.

For example, Kent Graham's sister was a regular poster here. So was Greg Comella's father. Pat Hanlon used to post.
Gentleman Jim.  
Britt in VA : 6/8/2021 3:14 pm : link
That was a moniker that was used a lot around that time.
I wonder  
NYGIANTS86 : 6/8/2021 3:36 pm : link
if the boat stories start to come out more than just as leaks now?
Wow -  
short lease : 6/8/2021 3:38 pm : link

Never got the trophy but, came close and at the helm of a productive part of Giant's history.

Rest in Peace Coach.

RE: RE: Eric, that is awesome.  
short lease : 6/8/2021 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15282574 Eric from BBI said:
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Thanks for elaborating.



Internet was more of a "wild West" at the time. We had a number of team officials, ex-players, and player family members posting on the site back then.

For example, Kent Graham's sister was a regular poster here. So was Greg Comella's father. Pat Hanlon used to post.


I remember Kent Graham's sister (she had the reddest hair) .... I thought Comella's sister also posted. I don't remember her father.
Way too young  
Paul326 : 6/8/2021 5:02 pm : link
He was one of my favorite Giant HC. He deserved another shot at HCing. RIP Coach Fassel.
any word  
BigBlueCane : 6/8/2021 5:03 pm : link
on if the team is gonna honor him somehow?
RIP.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/8/2021 5:26 pm : link
Hope the team honors him in some way at one of the games.
RE: any word  
Lines of Scrimmage : 6/8/2021 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15282665 BigBlueCane said:
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on if the team is gonna honor him somehow?


They will do something nice. I don’t think it will be a patch/band on the uniform. Maybe a nice moment of silence prior to the opener.
Still can’t believe this news.  
bceagle05 : 6/8/2021 6:03 pm : link
What a shame.
RE: RE: Eric, that is awesome.  
montanagiant : 6/8/2021 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15282574 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15282562 Sean said:


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Thanks for elaborating.



Internet was more of a "wild West" at the time. We had a number of team officials, ex-players, and player family members posting on the site back then.

For example, Kent Graham's sister was a regular poster here. So was Greg Comella's father. Pat Hanlon used to post.

Byron Hunt use to post on here also
Wow. This is unbelievable news.  
BigBlueBuff : 6/8/2021 6:23 pm : link
First of all, my condolences to the Fassell family and friends and to all who are affected by his passing. It is truly too young. This also makes me feel old. I was in my first year of teaching when he was hired as the head coach of the Giants prior to my 2001 move to Florida to study, where I met BigBlueCane who introduced me to BBI. He wore out his welcome quickly during the disaster that was 2004, but he was a very good head coach for the Giants.
I met him  
steve in maryland : 6/8/2021 6:27 pm : link
in Albany riding on a golf cart. I had my BBI sign. He came over and asked me what BBI was. I told him him" it is where we talk about about your good decisions and idiot decisions you make. He laughed , signed the sign , and asked me my name.
The following morning, he saw me on his golf cart and yelled " Hi Steve".
I would meet him again in Baltimore when he was coaching the Ravens.

He was a gentleman and a nice guy.. RIP Coach
R.I.P. Coach Fassel  
Joe Beckwith : 6/8/2021 7:40 pm : link
So sad. 😢
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/8/2021 7:50 pm : link
Met him in '99 or '00 @ training camp. I was shocked at how tall he was. My old man, brother, & I chatted with him for a minute. He was very nice.
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 6/8/2021 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15282393 I Love Clams Casino said:
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NYPD promo for the Eagles Giants game at the time had Sipowicz taking a call and then explaining the complaint to somebody else...."can you believe this?....These guys from Philadelphia say they were beaten 9 times in a row.....9 times in a row, by this group of guys wearing blue suits....9 times in a row"

I knew as soon as I saw the promo it was all over...and from that point on, it pretty much was.....


They should've done Ferris Bueller with the "9 times" bit.
Life is so short  
jtfuoco : 6/8/2021 8:11 pm : link
Moments like this always shocks me more then when player pass for some reason in my mind these old coaches seem like they will live forever.
Jason Garrett was the backup QB on the 2000 team  
CMicks3110 : 6/8/2021 8:34 pm : link
weird how fast time flies by.
Two personal experiences  
Phil S : 6/8/2021 9:12 pm : link
First he sold a home and used my company to get his documents. He denied the credit card charges which customers often do because they forget who we are. Some continue to even after we show them what it was for. Fassel did drop his contesting of the charge.

One time at training camp he yelled at adults who were pushing in line to get autographs.

Good guy and a better than average coach.
RIP Coach  
Kev in Cali : 6/8/2021 9:24 pm : link
We had a good run in '01. Thanks for the memories and positive impact on this organization.
RE: I wonder  
Dave : 6/8/2021 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15282599 NYGIANTS86 said:
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if the boat stories start to come out more than just as leaks now?


It was a nice boat, saw it parked (docked?) over by Chelsea years ago. That’s all I have...
If we had better QBing in '98-'99...  
jnoble : 6/8/2021 9:38 pm : link
We probably go to the playoffs those seasons too. Danny Kannel fell apart like a cheap tricycle in mid '98 and Kent Graham was too inconsistent. If they started Collins from the get-go in '99 things may have been different
2001 was not just a SuperBowl hangover season but 9/11 so overshadowed everything that football almost seemed like an afterthought.
2003 was just wrecked by injuries but I got the impression he lost the team after the 49ers meltdown months earlier and he was on his way out the door anyway
RIP J Fassel........  
Simms11 : 6/8/2021 10:47 pm : link
He was a pretty darn good Head Coach for this team.
RE: If we had better QBing in '98-'99...  
Route 9 : 6/9/2021 6:00 am : link
In comment 15282818 jnoble said:
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We probably go to the playoffs those seasons too. Danny Kannel fell apart like a cheap tricycle in mid '98 and Kent Graham was too inconsistent. If they started Collins from the get-go in '99 things may have been different
2001 was not just a SuperBowl hangover season but 9/11 so overshadowed everything that football almost seemed like an afterthought.
2003 was just wrecked by injuries but I got the impression he lost the team after the 49ers meltdown months earlier and he was on his way out the door anyway


Good post.
Sad news and way too young.  
chick310 : 6/9/2021 7:42 am : link
Fassel brought some good memories to NY Giants fans during his time.
RIP Jim  
Carson53 : 6/9/2021 8:48 am : link
Sad to hear, will always remember him with his quote.
'I'm throwing all my chips to the middle of the table,
anybody wants in, get in...anybody want out, get out.'
He took an overachieving team to a SB, will always remember
that NFC championship game as well. They blew out the
Vikes, 41-0, one of my favorite Giants wins of all time.
RIP Jim, Thanks for giving your best to the Giants and fans  
MartyNJ1969 : 6/9/2021 10:12 am : link
Great Coach, got the best out of your players.
RIP Coach  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/9/2021 10:56 am : link
7 years -- 58-53-1 -- 3 playoff appearances -- 1 SB appearance

His resume was pretty damn good. I know there were always rumors about why he never got another HC gig, but he was pretty damn close to being the Washington HC at one point. I always felt like he deserved another HC job. Was he an amazing HC? No. But he was certainly better than some of these other guys who get multiple chances for whatever reason. Fassel's resume kind of matches what I thought of him, an above-average NFL HC who was capable of leading a good team to the big game.

I have so many memories of those Fassel teams, both good and bad. Those were fun teams to root for and was a nice "appetizer era" to the main course that was the Coughlin/Eli era. I was shocked to see that he was 71, time flies. He was still too young, RIP.
While we all..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/9/2021 11:30 am : link
remember 2000, what he was able to do in '97 with Danny Kannell as the QB was amazing. Kannell had 11 TD's and 9 INT's and our FB was the leading rusher and 2nd leading receiver!

The top WR? Chris Calloway with 57 receptions.
The Giants won the Super Bowl in 1990  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/9/2021 11:34 am : link
and had some competitive years at tail end of Simms' and Taylors' careers. Then they went into the Dave Brown era. For a lot of teams, whiffing that badly on a franchise quarterback can set you back a decade. Instead, Fassel came in, and got more out of a Danny Kannell/Kent Graham combo than anyone could reasonably expect. They should have even won a playoff game if not for Chris Calloway. Shortly thereafter, they were playing in the Super Bowl with a battered and beaten QB everyone else had given up on.

For me, his legacy is less about his success, though there was plenty of that, and more about the extended period of utter failure he helped us avoid. And obviously without him, the path we went down would've been very different and all-but-certainly wouldn't have led us to an Eli-Coughlin era.

So RIP Coach Fassel, and thanks for being a wonderful bright spot in Giants' history.
Found this cool vid about Tassel treating home games as away in 2000  
guitarguybs12 : 6/9/2021 12:09 pm : link
wasn't aware that along with the guarantee he also did this in an attempt to replicate the success the team had on the road that year.
Underrated moment that may have saved Giants 2000 Season - ( New Window )
RE: While we all..  
jnoble : 6/9/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15283064 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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remember 2000, what he was able to do in '97 with Danny Kannell as the QB was amazing. Kannell had 11 TD's and 9 INT's and our FB was the leading rusher and 2nd leading receiver!

The top WR? Chris Calloway with 57 receptions.


If Dave Brown hadn't gotten hurt I wonder how that year would've gone. He seemed to be playing better under Fassel's offense before he tore his pec muscle. Kannell was almost benched after the Bucs or Titans loss in mid season but JF didn't pull the trigger on it.
Fassel  
DannyDimes : 6/10/2021 11:32 pm : link
RIP, I've always liked him and never understood why he never got a second chance anywhere...
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