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Former Giants HC Jim Fassel has passed away at age 71

Anakim : 6/8/2021 2:17 am
RIP to a wonderful coach and man
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This makes me really sad  
GiantTuff1 : 6/8/2021 7:47 am : link
He was a much better coach than he was given credit for, especially coming from the dregs of the previous two regimes and the complete and utter lack of offense under Reeves he was like hiring a Silicon Valley whiz kid to fix our team's technical problems.

He breathed new life into the team, hired future HOF coaches as coordinators, resurrected Kerry Collins, and had a bit of a gamblers mentality that I truly appreciated. He was real, and you could feel that, and for the most part I believe the team fed off of it to incredible highs, and sometimes pretty insane losses. But one thing you cannot say is that his tenure didn't provide exciting football, even if from two sides of the coin.

There's almost nothing that can beat the "chips to the middle of the table" press conference. That took huge balls, and it worked. I long for realism like that in this overly washed coach speak world. Unfortunately, it didn't work out in the SB. I really wish he got another shot in the league.

I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in 2003 with the injuries. I attended his last coached game, the season finale against Carolina in 2003 to a less than full house. My friends and I brought a "Thank You Jim" sign. I feel exactly the same way now.

RIP Jim Fassel.
RE: Because of my age at the time  
UConn4523 : 6/8/2021 7:47 am : link
In comment 15282118 ryanmkeane said:
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he was really the first Giants head coach that I took a liking to and could really grasp what coaching in the NFL was all about. Ugh. What a bummer.


Same. I was too young to understand the Parcells Giants. I was a fan but didn't know what was going on. Fassel came along when I was 10/11 and really started understanding the game more. The trio of Tiki, Toomer and Strahan helped as well.
RE: ...  
Del Shofner : 6/8/2021 7:47 am : link
In comment 15282061 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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JFC. I didn't even know he was sick. RIP.


Not clear that he was. Per the Post it was a heart attack and it seems to have come on quickly yesterday.
Damn, really sad news to start the day with  
mfsd : 6/8/2021 7:51 am : link
Lot to be admired for, got some middling talent teams to play really hard, and coached the Giants to a lot of big wins.

His legacy in overall is a bit of a mixed bag, but not the right time or place to rehash all that. RIP Coach
RE: This makes me really sad  
Les in TO : 6/8/2021 7:53 am : link
In comment 15282122 GiantTuff1 said:
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He was a much better coach than he was given credit for, especially coming from the dregs of the previous two regimes and the complete and utter lack of offense under Reeves he was like hiring a Silicon Valley whiz kid to fix our team's technical problems.

He breathed new life into the team, hired future HOF coaches as coordinators, resurrected Kerry Collins, and had a bit of a gamblers mentality that I truly appreciated. He was real, and you could feel that, and for the most part I believe the team fed off of it to incredible highs, and sometimes pretty insane losses. But one thing you cannot say is that his tenure didn't provide exciting football, even if from two sides of the coin.

There's almost nothing that can beat the "chips to the middle of the table" press conference. That took huge balls, and it worked. I long for realism like that in this overly washed coach speak world. Unfortunately, it didn't work out in the SB. I really wish he got another shot in the league.

I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in 2003 with the injuries. I attended his last coached game, the season finale against Carolina in 2003 to a less than full house. My friends and I brought a "Thank You Jim" sign. I feel exactly the same way now.

RIP Jim Fassel.
nice post
RIP Coach.  
Heisenberg : 6/8/2021 7:53 am : link
One of the most memorable coaching tenures in Giants history.
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Route 9 : 6/8/2021 7:56 am : link
I was at that 2003 finale as well. I think it was a 415 game. I remember not realizing that until I looked at the ticket. Thought it was a 1 game.

Either way, that game was funny. So many shenanigans with the limited fans left and that was the first game I snuck down to the lower level. Never saw pro football that close. We cheered for Jim as he walked off the field. Good times. Eli/Coughlin on the horizon.
RIP Coach Fassel  
Mdgiantsfan : 6/8/2021 7:57 am : link
I recall his presser after he was let go. I had so much more respect for him for the manner in which he handled it and the dignity he displayed that day! I sent an email via the Giants mailbag expressing my appreciation for him and I received a reply soon thereafter from him. That only solidified my thoughts about him.
Hmm most of you guys  
Dave on the UWS : 6/8/2021 7:58 am : link
with the RIP made fun of him for years.
That’s the definition of hypocrisy. He was a decent n man an and a way better HC than given credit for.
RE: Damn 71  
River Mike : 6/8/2021 8:02 am : link
In comment 15282051 mrvax said:
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seems like it's too young for me. I'm right there in 10 years.


And I've been dragging it behind me for 6 years
RE: Hmm most of you guys  
Route 9 : 6/8/2021 8:03 am : link
In comment 15282137 Dave on the UWS said:
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with the RIP made fun of him for years.
That’s the definition of hypocrisy. He was a decent n man an and a way better HC than given credit for.



Definitely better than McAdoo, Shurmur, Ray Handley, excetera.

Not Coughlin/ Bill Parcells category
Really fun read with Fassel, Accorsi, Hamilton, Armstead  
Heisenberg : 6/8/2021 8:04 am : link
John Fox, talking about the 2000 run and how it peaked with the absolute domination of the Vikings in the NFC Championship

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“If you’ve got the laser, put it right on my chest, I’ll take full responsibility. I’m raising the stakes right now,” he said. “If this is a poker game, I’m shoving my chips to the middle of the table. I’m raising the ante. Anybody who wants in can get in, anybody who wants out can get out: This team is going to the playoffs.”

The New York Times called it “a passionate, unsolicited and wholly uncharacteristic speech” from “the Mister Rogers of football.”

Bob Papa, radio broadcaster: Everybody viewed it as a little shocking, which gave it more credence. That’s something that (Bill) Parcells would do, or a coach with a different disposition would do. It was out of character for Fassel, and that helped it carry more weight and resonate with everybody inside the building.

Fassel: It’s our job (as coaches) to make the adjustments. That’s our job. So I put it on the coaches, and the players knew that I put it on the coaches. And I included myself, you know?

Accorsi: He put himself on the line. In a situation like we were in, I never worried about if somebody stirs something up. If everything’s going smoothly and we’re 9-1, don’t disturb the waters. But in that kind of situation, throw caution to the wind. I’m not saying that was the reason, but it turned out that it helped us because it got us stimulated. It caught everybody’s interest.

Fox: Our team did respond. It was like, “OK, our leader has said he’s all-in, so we better be all-in.”

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So sad to hear  
Stufftherun : 6/8/2021 8:05 am : link
and as Nak alluded to, he did appear to be one of the leagues good guys. Always wondered why he never landed another high profile HC job. RIP, coach Fassel.
Dont know what to say  
Chef : 6/8/2021 8:10 am : link
but rest Coach... and like others said a lot better coach then given credit for....
Coach of the year and a Super Bowl coach  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 6/8/2021 8:11 am : link
Always a Giant.
I just..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/8/2021 8:14 am : link
hope that when Gene/Homer celebrates this passing, he uses a different glass than what buford used to celebrate George Young's death...
RE: Hmm most of you guys  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/8/2021 8:15 am : link
In comment 15282137 Dave on the UWS said:
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with the RIP made fun of him for years.
That’s the definition of hypocrisy. He was a decent n man an and a way better HC than given credit for.


Bear with me for a minute, but it's possible to separate your criticism from him as a head coach & yet still feel awful that he passed away.
RE: Hmm most of you guys  
Big Blue '56 : 6/8/2021 8:17 am : link
In comment 15282137 Dave on the UWS said:
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with the RIP made fun of him for years.
That’s the definition of hypocrisy. He was a decent n man an and a way better HC than given credit for.


Dave, I thought he mediocre at best..Hated him as a HC, specifically his meltdowns..I was very vocal in my dislike of his coaching and and his reported philandering ways.

That said, I am truly saddened by his passing and this isn’t the time for call-outs..Far too young (in this day and age) to pass..Tragic..
RE: Hate to hear! Will be interested to see NYG’s reaction  
Drewcon40 : 6/8/2021 8:18 am : link
In comment 15282115 FranknWeezer said:
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I’d like to see them do a helmet decal for Coach Fassel. Maybe a pile of blue and red casino chips with JF on them.


This is a great idea Frankn! Love IT.

Rest in Peace, Coach. Now is not the time for negative thoughts but there are a few players in my mind that I hope he was able to mend fences.

The poker chips is a great memory but on some Giants history DVDs, I loved how excited he was when we drafted Jeremy Shockey.
RE: RE: Hate to hear! Will be interested to see NYG’s reaction  
Les in TO : 6/8/2021 8:22 am : link
In comment 15282165 Drewcon40 said:
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In comment 15282115 FranknWeezer said:


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I’d like to see them do a helmet decal for Coach Fassel. Maybe a pile of blue and red casino chips with JF on them.



This is a great idea Frankn! Love IT.

Rest in Peace, Coach. Now is not the time for negative thoughts but there are a few players in my mind that I hope he was able to mend fences.

The poker chips is a great memory but on some Giants history DVDs, I loved how excited he was when we drafted Jeremy Shockey.
Strahan had some nice things to say about him on GMA and mentioned they stayed in touch over the years
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Route 9 : 6/8/2021 8:26 am : link
He beat the Eagles 9 times in a row. Remember those days? Unlike this batch of wimps we got for the last 10-13 years. Can't even beat them more than once.
sad day for the Fassel-ites  
GiantsLaw : 6/8/2021 8:30 am : link
thanks for 41-0. A truly great day at the stadium. rest in peace coach.
RE: ......  
Route 9 : 6/8/2021 8:31 am : link
In comment 15282174 Route 9 said:
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He beat the Eagles 9 times in a row. Remember those days? Unlike this batch of wimps we got for the last 10-13 years. Can't even beat them more than once.


More than once in a year, which is bull.
RE: RE: This makes me really sad  
JCin332 : 6/8/2021 8:32 am : link
In comment 15282130 Les in TO said:
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In comment 15282122 GiantTuff1 said:


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He was a much better coach than he was given credit for, especially coming from the dregs of the previous two regimes and the complete and utter lack of offense under Reeves he was like hiring a Silicon Valley whiz kid to fix our team's technical problems.

He breathed new life into the team, hired future HOF coaches as coordinators, resurrected Kerry Collins, and had a bit of a gamblers mentality that I truly appreciated. He was real, and you could feel that, and for the most part I believe the team fed off of it to incredible highs, and sometimes pretty insane losses. But one thing you cannot say is that his tenure didn't provide exciting football, even if from two sides of the coin.

There's almost nothing that can beat the "chips to the middle of the table" press conference. That took huge balls, and it worked. I long for realism like that in this overly washed coach speak world. Unfortunately, it didn't work out in the SB. I really wish he got another shot in the league.

I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in 2003 with the injuries. I attended his last coached game, the season finale against Carolina in 2003 to a less than full house. My friends and I brought a "Thank You Jim" sign. I feel exactly the same way now.

RIP Jim Fassel.

nice post


Agreed what a wonderful summary...the 1986 NFC Championship was my favorite home game ever but 41-0 was a close second!

My thoughts and prayers to him and his family...
Sad  
Dr. D : 6/8/2021 8:43 am : link
RIP Coach
RIP coach  
Giants86 : 6/8/2021 8:43 am : link
He did a pretty good job as the coach.
The first Giants coach I can remember  
JB_in_DC : 6/8/2021 8:45 am : link
Vague memories of both Vikings playoff games... agony and ecstasy. RIP Coach Fassell and condolences to his family.
RIP, Coach Fassel  
MadPlaid : 6/8/2021 8:48 am : link
His tenure was filled with a lot of ups and downs. The ups were really good, and I think for the most part, they out weighed the downs. Although, 2000 didn’t end the way we wanted, I appreciate everything he did to make that season a great one.

Too young. Sending good thoughts to his family on this tragic morning.
RE: Hmm most of you guys  
UConn4523 : 6/8/2021 8:51 am : link
In comment 15282137 Dave on the UWS said:
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with the RIP made fun of him for years.
That’s the definition of hypocrisy. He was a decent n man an and a way better HC than given credit for.


Is it that hard to understand that thinking a coach stinks doesn't mean the death shouldn't be mourned? If this was Shurmur it would be equally as sad.
Way to soon...  
Tony in Berlin : 6/8/2021 8:52 am : link
We had terrible QBs back then... until Collins came along. But I loved those Fassel Giants. Armstead, Strahan, Charles Way, Keith Hamilton, Tiki, Toomer... too bad he never got a chance to get back into the game. RIP.
Wow...  
BillKo : 6/8/2021 9:01 am : link
..just woke up to this. Shocking to read, didn't even realize he was that age.

RIP, Coach.
Sad news  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2021 9:10 am : link
He was a better coach than most people give him credit for, IMO. Not a great coach, but while his teams could, and did, disappoint, they were never a fiasco like we've seen around here for most of the past decade.

71 is too young. My father just turned 70 and I can't even imagine losing him.
I had season tickets for his entire tenure...  
KingBlue : 6/8/2021 9:11 am : link
Giants stadium had life. He hasn't quite got the accolades he deserved. RIP Coach Fassel!
RIP Coach  
JoeyBigBlue : 6/8/2021 9:14 am : link
Very sad news to start the day.
RE: Sad news  
Big Al : 6/8/2021 9:14 am : link
In comment 15282218 Greg from LI said:
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He was a better coach than most people give him credit for, IMO. Not a great coach, but while his teams could, and did, disappoint, they were never a fiasco like we've seen around here for most of the past decade.

71 is too young. My father just turned 70 and I can't even imagine losing him.
Not a great coach but in my opinion an above average coach. He did not deserve the abuse and ridicule he got here for his overall performance. I always wished he got the second chance he deserved.
Sad news...  
Jan in DC : 6/8/2021 9:18 am : link
Thanks for the memories Coach. Thoughts to his family and friends.
Very  
AcidTest : 6/8/2021 9:19 am : link
sad news. As others have noted, he resurrected the Giants and gave us hope. He was a great coach and leader. RIP. God bless. Prayers to his family and friends.
RE: This makes me really sad  
Section331 : 6/8/2021 9:20 am : link
In comment 15282122 GiantTuff1 said:
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He was a much better coach than he was given credit for, especially coming from the dregs of the previous two regimes and the complete and utter lack of offense under Reeves he was like hiring a Silicon Valley whiz kid to fix our team's technical problems.

He breathed new life into the team, hired future HOF coaches as coordinators, resurrected Kerry Collins, and had a bit of a gamblers mentality that I truly appreciated. He was real, and you could feel that, and for the most part I believe the team fed off of it to incredible highs, and sometimes pretty insane losses. But one thing you cannot say is that his tenure didn't provide exciting football, even if from two sides of the coin.

There's almost nothing that can beat the "chips to the middle of the table" press conference. That took huge balls, and it worked. I long for realism like that in this overly washed coach speak world. Unfortunately, it didn't work out in the SB. I really wish he got another shot in the league.

I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in 2003 with the injuries. I attended his last coached game, the season finale against Carolina in 2003 to a less than full house. My friends and I brought a "Thank You Jim" sign. I feel exactly the same way now.

RIP Jim Fassel.


Great post. Fassel was a flawed coach and man, but got and continues to get short shrift from many Giants fans. He was a good offensive coach, and a better HC than given credit for. Sure, he had more than his fair share of team meltdowns in big moments, and I don't begrudge Well Mara from going in another direction after 2003, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro ream in any sport with more injuries to key players than that one. Tell me how many games any HC would have won wit Jesse Palmer at QB.

Most of my best in-person memories of Giants Stadium were with Fassel led teams. 41-0 is my favorite in-person sports memory, so thanks Coach, and RIP.
RIP  
JonC : 6/8/2021 9:24 am : link
I lost my dad at 70 less than two years ago out of nowhere. It's the worst and most helpless feeling, I feel for what his children are enduring.
As others have said it's very sad news.  
Klaatu : 6/8/2021 9:25 am : link
And, yes, 71 is way too young. RIP Coach.
RIP Coach Fassel  
Gap92 : 6/8/2021 9:38 am : link
His era was one of the most exciting in my life as a Giants fan. Lots of highs (especially 41-0 and owning the Eagles as others have pointed out), and infuriating lows. I think he did an admirable job with the talent he had and certainly deserved another shot.
RIP Coach.  
Blue21 : 6/8/2021 9:42 am : link
Some great memories.
RIP  
bc4life : 6/8/2021 9:44 am : link
Had a good career. I am not sure he will get a fair grade as an HC because of the poor personnel decisions made during his tenure.

Seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Saw him at training camp and yelled out "Good luck this season coach." Responded by saying hey thanks man, and few quick comments. It may not mean much - but sometimes small things give you a bigger peek into a person's character.
Condolences to his family.  
Snacks : 6/8/2021 9:47 am : link
RIP coach. Thanks for everything.
Wow!  
Grey Pilgrim : 6/8/2021 9:49 am : link
Way to young!

RIP
RIP Coach  
Jints in Carolina : 6/8/2021 9:59 am : link
sad day
awful  
Matt in SGS : 6/8/2021 10:03 am : link
met him a few times and he was a nice guy in the various encounters. He used to live next to one of my college friends in Morristown and she baby sat his kids when his son hurt his throat running into a table and was in the hospital and she became close with the family.

I'm going to be posting Fassel highlights thru the day on the BigBlueVCR twitter if interested. RIP coach.
Condolences to his family....  
nyblue56 : 6/8/2021 10:03 am : link
I always respected Fassel for being able to do something with some of the least talented Giants teams I can remember.
Very Sad News and condolences to his family  
Essex : 6/8/2021 10:12 am : link
RIP Coach.
RIP coach, 41-0 was one of the greatest Giant games  
gtt350 : 6/8/2021 10:13 am : link
of all time.
Two of my favorite memories a friend comes over a bit late and goes what's the score? I say 14-0 ,he goes oh shit, I say no we're winning.

One of John Madden's best games " Kerry Collins 5 td's not since Sid
Luckman. Well i'll be hornswaggled"

Thanks coach Fassel

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