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According to a report from NHL insider Darren Dreger of TSN, the New York Rangers are "keenly interested" in veteran head coach Gerard Gallant and it's expected that the team and coach will come to an agreement on his hiring in short order. Dreger's comments on Gallant from TSN1050 radio earlier today: "I'd be gobsmacked if Gerard Gallant is offered a deal by the New York Rangers and didn't take it." "I know the New York Rangers are keenly interested in Gerard Gallant." |
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With the Rangers, Gallant will be in charge of helping a young, skilled team take the next step in their development. The pieces are all there for the Rangers to be a dangerous team for the next decade, all they're lacking is a coach who can inspire them to play the right way. And if you're looking for an inspiration coach, you could do a lot worse than Gallant. It's no secret that Gallant, affectionately known as "Turk" is a popular coach with players and has a penchant for getting the absolute most out of his teams. There weren't many people giving the Golden Knights much credit when they broke into the NHL in 2017, but Turk led them all the way to the Stanley Cup Final in their inaugural season. He won't have that much work to do with the Rangers, so don't be surprised if the Rangers take a big next season under Gallant. |
Drury may want to see if Rod the Bod shakes loose in Carolina
I just don’t bother posting all that much on NFTs..I’ve been a Ranger fan dating back to Bathgate, Hebenton, Howell, Fontinto, Creighton, Worsley et al
I'll write a letter to them instead.
With the right coach this team go's boom. Lets hope Gallant is successful. Fingers crossed
With the right coach this team go's boom. Lets hope Gallant is successful. Fingers crossed
Right on. This is the most excited I've been about a rebuild of any of my teams ever. It's been tempered a bit with the firing of JD/Gorton. This is the toughest part,
imho. Not breaking down a team. Not beginning a rebuild. It's when you have a core start to emerge and plateau. What are the moves that will take this group from a middling team to a contender? There next 12 months will tell us whether this core will produce a contender or paper tiger. So much rests on the development of Kakko, Laf, the young blue line and Shesty.
The next 12 months will tell us whether
Agreed. Maurice wouldn't even be an upgrade over Gallant. Cassidy and Rod the Bod would, but there's virtually no chance either shake loose.
He who hesitates is loss, Drury. Just hire Gallant.
Numbers on unis single digits, up to 20s: if I recall right, Bathgate 4, Hebenton 9, Fontinato 2, Howell 3, no recollection of Creighton's (?), Gumper of course 1, didn't ALL keepers wear 1 then? LOL One other stalwart from those teams, Gadsby, that I recall off top of my head. Emile came along, so did Eddie Giacomin, who was everything Rangers' fans were hoping for, along with the next generation of SC Champion hopefuls, not to be for another 25 years.
With the right coach this team go's boom. Lets hope Gallant is successful. Fingers crossed
There was some angst and teeth gnashing when the Rangers came up empty against the Islanders and all the other Cup participants the last month of the season. It was no accident, and it wasn't only Quinn there in lieu of a Gallant. Can anyone say, with a straight face, that this Rangers' team would have stolen more than a game against any of the Metro participants? Maybe against the Leafs, Jets, pre-run Habs, but anyone else?
Team needs some size, young veteran grit and fire to succeed in the dirty work along the walls and behind the net in heavy checking, heavy hitting games. I'm not sure that is a roster strength, either now or after 'the kids' gain some maturity.
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I just don’t bother posting all that much on NFTs..I’ve been a Ranger fan dating back to Bathgate, Hebenton, Howell, Fontinto, Creighton, Worsley et al
Me, too, we are old! That was an era pre-masks on GKs (think Jacques initiated it, to great consternation among purists), let alone helmets on others. Also an era when the Bruins usually finished lower than the Rangers in those Original Six days, Johnny Bucyk, great player, but on a lot of bad Bruins' teams.
Numbers on unis single digits, up to 20s: if I recall right, Bathgate 4, Hebenton 9, Fontinato 2, Howell 3, no recollection of Creighton's (?), Gumper of course 1, didn't ALL keepers wear 1 then? LOL One other stalwart from those teams, Gadsby, that I recall off top of my head. Emile came along, so did Eddie Giacomin, who was everything Rangers' fans were hoping for, along with the next generation of SC Champion hopefuls, not to be for another 25 years.
Andy Bathgate was #9, and it was finally retired for both he and Adam Graves.
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I just don’t bother posting all that much on NFTs..I’ve been a Ranger fan dating back to Bathgate, Hebenton, Howell, Fontinto, Creighton, Worsley et al
Me, too, we are old! That was an era pre-masks on GKs (think Jacques initiated it, to great consternation among purists), let alone helmets on others. Also an era when the Bruins usually finished lower than the Rangers in those Original Six days, Johnny Bucyk, great player, but on a lot of bad Bruins' teams.
Numbers on unis single digits, up to 20s: if I recall right, Bathgate 4, Hebenton 9, Fontinato 2, Howell 3, no recollection of Creighton's (?), Gumper of course 1, didn't ALL keepers wear 1 then? LOL One other stalwart from those teams, Gadsby, that I recall off top of my head. Emile came along, so did Eddie Giacomin, who was everything Rangers' fans were hoping for, along with the next generation of SC Champion hopefuls, not to be for another 25 years.
Yup, Jacques Plante
Sure, without Panarin and Trouba things are different, but with them the Rangers probably beat the Pens in a 7-game series and are easily competitive with the two worst teams in each division.
they are NOT a rebuilding team when you have Zibanejad, Panarin, Trouba, Kreider, Buchnevich, Strome, etc.
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Andy Bathgate was #9, and it was finally retired for both he and Adam Graves.
arrggh, Victor, how could I forget. Maybe Hebenton wore #4.
happens to me to.
Hebenton was # 12
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Sure, without Panarin and Trouba things are different, but with them the Rangers probably beat the Pens in a 7-game series and are easily competitive with the two worst teams in each division.
they are NOT a rebuilding team when you have Zibanejad, Panarin, Trouba, Kreider, Buchnevich, Strome, etc.
I don't think it's a re-building as such as much as a re-casting. The franchise has oodles of talent in goal (albeit I fear Igor's slight frame might have him on the shelf more than I would like) and on d and up front. My view is that the talent, including the names you mention--who too often came up very, very quiet in must win games down the stretch against determined, physical checking teams, and when the cross ice zone entries or point to point in opponents' end were taken away, there were no answers, no capability to adapt--has to be leavened with the kind of hard nosed, two-way forwards kind of players we've been treated to in these Cup Series. As much as he is denigrated here (more for his contract than anything), I think the loss of Trouba was under rated. They need a few more old style players who allow that skill to rise to the top.
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I think you're selling the Rangers a little short.
Sure, without Panarin and Trouba things are different, but with them the Rangers probably beat the Pens in a 7-game series and are easily competitive with the two worst teams in each division.
they are NOT a rebuilding team when you have Zibanejad, Panarin, Trouba, Kreider, Buchnevich, Strome, etc.
pj, perhaps you misconstrue a bit where my head is at. But, first, 'for the 2021 record', I've said several times on NYR game threads that, imo, the critical home-and-home (iirc) vs Pens in early April was a tell how the final months were going to go. Rangers garnered 1 out of 4 points, and that began a string, highlighted by the three-game demolition by the Isles 13 - 1, in aggregate, and some very poor games vs Bruins, who throughout the last 50 days of the regular season or so, were the Rangers primary target. Those games + BOS games in hand, were the death knell.
I don't think it's a re-building as such as much as a re-casting. The franchise has oodles of talent in goal (albeit I fear Igor's slight frame might have him on the shelf more than I would like) and on d and up front. My view is that the talent, including the names you mention--who too often came up very, very quiet in must win games down the stretch against determined, physical checking teams, and when the cross ice zone entries or point to point in opponents' end were taken away, there were no answers, no capability to adapt--has to be leavened with the kind of hard nosed, two-way forwards kind of players we've been treated to in these Cup Series. As much as he is denigrated here (more for his contract than anything), I think the loss of Trouba was under rated. They need a few more old style players who allow that skill to rise to the top.
good post. I agree its a rebalancing more than a rebuild.
Gerard Gallant remains the leader in the clubhouse, but Rangers president-general manager Chris Drury is waiting to see if there is fallout from second-round playoff series that could free up another candidate or two to succeed David Quinn behind the bench, according to several individuals familiar with the team’s coaching search.
That means, first, the Blueshirts are going to monitor the situation in Carolina, where Rod Brind’Amour’s ’Canes were eliminated in five games by the Lightning after falling 2-0 in Game 5.
Brind’Amour’s contract is set to expire at the end of the season, and though the coach and team owner Tom Dundon had been working on a three-year extension late in the regular season, that remains unfinished business.
There is always the chance that the notoriously parsimonious owner will lowball Brind’Amour into free agency. It is believed the parties were discussing a number around $1.8 million per before talks broke off. The coach would probably be in line for close to $4 million annually in New York.
If it becomes about money, the Rangers will not be outbid. It may not, however, become about money for Brind’Amour, who played the final 10 seasons of his career in Carolina before joining the coaching staff as an assistant in 2011
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teams add players like Nate Thompson, Corey Perry, Wayne Simmonds, etc. every year (perry and Simmonds only recently since he got old), but they provide veteran depth/leadership, grit, and reliability.
Good role models.
I think the mistake the Rangers made was eschewing those types of players (who are cheap) in favor of the Rooney, Blackwell, Di Guiseppe, etc. and that was the fatal flaw.
NOT the no-shows by the stars, but the lack of grit and leadership - and probably cost Gorton his job.
Losing Trouba left the D terribly exposed and inexperienced how many games played did Miller, Fox, Lindgren, Hajek, etc. have combined coming in to the season
but again, I do think the Rangers stack up well against their competition and fully staffed put up a good fight with those I mentioned in a 7-game series.
but it also sounds like we're in agreement on not being a rebuild - teams go through what you described every year or two.
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The Athletic: The Blue Jackets are close to naming a new head coach, and former assistant Brad Larsen appears to be the front-runner
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lol, nothing like torpedoing your most valuable asset. They kind of have no choice, he's under contract for the next 5 years @ $10M per season. He has no NMC for the next two years, but that's a big $$ for a player you now publicly don't want.
Star players seldom go for as much as I'd expect unless it's a deadline deal. I don't expect Eichel to go for the Joe Thornton return but don't think anyone's giving up the farm.
Eichel is just turning 25 and a C (a better player at a more important position).
Eichel should have more value, but I don't remember Nash's own team sabotaging his value.
BUF brought this all on themselves, not sure of CBJ did too.
Nash had the 5th highest cap hit in the year prior to the deal of 2011-2012 (excluding Jeremy Welsh who had a >$17mm cap hit???). Eichel is 13th this year. So they're somewhat comparable. But not perfect for the reason you stated.
Nash had the 5th highest cap hit in the year prior to the deal of 2011-2012 (excluding Jeremy Welsh who had a >$17mm cap hit???). Eichel is 13th this year. So they're somewhat comparable. But not perfect for the reason you stated.
I may be misremembering, but I thought Nash only wanted to go to New York (did he have a NTC?) and Sather was hellbent on getting him. Remember the game against Columbus when MSG was chanting, "We Don't Want You"
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The Athletic: The Blue Jackets are close to naming a new head coach, and former assistant Brad Larsen appears to be the front-runner
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BTW, this is official
Mark Stone was traded for a second, a top prospect, and Oscar Lindberg. I think it would be a shitty trade if the Rangers give up Chytil, a first, and one of Schneider/Lundkvist. Get him for a relative bargain or wait for the next disgruntled star.