Judge and Graham baby. We got this division with them at the helm.
People can post all these PFF ratings about the OL and talk about all the Daniel Jones play dates with his WR. And Saquon coming off injury. But at the end of the day, the upside of this team is on defense via Patrick Graham.
Stacked secondary. LW back. LFG. 11-6 baby. Giant football.
I read several here making fun of him for admitting it....but I took it as a positive.
The 3 keys
Garrett system
Daniel Jones
OL
Encouraged by all the news....
The defense will be very good...i have no doubt.
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I think they are the right guys to take the talent the Giants have now and make some noise
Talent, balance, depth.....then good coaching can have a bigger impact.
Overall the D was good (around 10th in scoring and yards allowed), but they were more of a 'bend but don't break' defense than an elite D. In terms of scoring % (% of drives that end in pts), they were middle of the pack, which means they held the opposition to a lot of FGs. But they need to get better at flipping the field and getting the offense a short field to work with.
I don't know if that's true. If we believe what has been said, the offense was pared down to cut back on turnovers and to scheme around losing Barkley. While the results didn't pan out, that's not just about results, it is a process change. If it were just about results, Garrett would've opened up the offense.
Also, in trying to protect the ball more, that is with an eye on fundamentals and focusing on what they can control and working on responsibilities. And I'm sure Garrett didn't make those adjustments without Judge's buy-in.
If Jones goes down you have Mike Glennon leading this team...In my opinion...scary.
If Barkley isn't able to go you have Booker...Booker is a decent player and good role player, but as a #1, yikes.
IF Martinez misses time, who replaces him...Ragland? Crowder? Not great, and gets really thin after them, I don't think anyone wants to see Downs out there in a significant role. Actually maybe this should be #2 on the list.
Not saying losing a Star player won't hurt them, but they have guys that can play behind them, or guys in some cases. You don't replace a Leo Williams with one guy.
I'll put a * next to Tackle for now, until I see Solder play, I can't comment on what happens if Thomas goes down.
Personally, I've always been wary of this style of football because if the big plays don't come, and your offense is based around them, you're screwed. But that clearly is the trend.
What opposing defenses have done to the Giants in recent years is dare them to matriculate the football down the field. So they concentrated on taking out guys like Beckham when he was here. Their plan (and it inevitably proved correct) was the Giants would self-destruct along the way with a sack, penalty, inability to run to keep the down and distance manageable, etc.
What Gettleman did this offseason was provide the team with a number of big play options to go along with Barkley (who has been hurt the past two years) and the inconsistent Engram. He also addressed red zone issues.
Your worries should be all about the QB and OL. Everything else is a distant 3rd.
I think in the NFL you have to be good all around. At some point your team strength won't be that and you have to have something else to overcome it. This happens in big games with and especially come playoff time. It's why it is so hard to win championships.
I think in the NFL you have to be good all around. At some point your team strength won't be that and you have to have something else to overcome it. This happens in big games with and especially come playoff time. It's why it is so hard to win championships.
That's the thing. If you rely on one thing and someone takes that one thing away from you in a playoff game, it's over.
Screw that (no offense...and no pun intended).
Joe Judge didn't say the Giants needed to get DJ more weapons so the defense could carry the load. Franchise QB's, "generational" RB's, and high-priced free agent WR's shouldn't need that, either. "Sufficient" isn't nearly enough for the offense, not if the Giants plan on winning more than seven or eight games.
QB: Daniel Jones is one of the better running QB's in the NFL today and one of the better deep ball throwers in the NFL today. He is also finally surrounded by talent for the first time and is now in the 2nd year of the same offense for the first time.
RB: Saquon is likely the most athletic RB in the NFL & just one of the most athletic players in the NFL period. If he comes back at 75% he's going to be a pro bowl caliber RB. Then the depth is there, Booker, Clement, Armstead & Brightwell.
TE/FB: Engram is one of the most athletic TEs in the game today. The group behind him is stacked and strong in the run game. Rudolph, Kaden, Toilolo & Penny.
WR: Kenny the jolly giant Golladay is huge for a WR and is a contested catch monster. Shep is Shep and when healthy he's pretty reliable in the slot. Then we got 3 true burners and really great athletes in Darius Slayton, John Ross and Dante Pettis. Then there is Kadarius Toney who is another burner and just an absolute human joystick. That WR group is crazy good IMO, everyone is a legit weapon in some way.
The defense is going to be a top 10 unit no doubt in my mind. The biggest questions are the OL's development and the coaching staffs ability to put it all together on offense.
So if Andrew Thomas is who we drafted him to be, if Gates keeps doing what he's doing, if we get a little luck with Lemieux and/or Peart, I'm not counting on Hernandez to be good but I can't rule it out completely... and if Garrett dials it up/schemes it up nicely then I see us winning 11 games AT MINIMUM!
This team is loaded...
This team is loaded...
Loaded with what, bullets or blanks?
The offense will go as far as the offensive line takes it, and right now we have absolutely no idea how it will perform.
hahah! Came in to post this very thing.
Salud!
QB: Daniel Jones is one of the better running QB's in the NFL today and one of the better deep ball throwers in the NFL today. He is also finally surrounded by talent for the first time and is now in the 2nd year of the same offense for the first time.
RB: Saquon is likely the most athletic RB in the NFL & just one of the most athletic players in the NFL period. If he comes back at 75% he's going to be a pro bowl caliber RB. Then the depth is there, Booker, Clement, Armstead & Brightwell.
TE/FB: Engram is one of the most athletic TEs in the game today. The group behind him is stacked and strong in the run game. Rudolph, Kaden, Toilolo & Penny.
WR: Kenny the jolly giant Golladay is huge for a WR and is a contested catch monster. Shep is Shep and when healthy he's pretty reliable in the slot. Then we got 3 true burners and really great athletes in Darius Slayton, John Ross and Dante Pettis. Then there is Kadarius Toney who is another burner and just an absolute human joystick. That WR group is crazy good IMO, everyone is a legit weapon in some way.
The defense is going to be a top 10 unit no doubt in my mind. The biggest questions are the OL's development and the coaching staffs ability to put it all together on offense.
So if Andrew Thomas is who we drafted him to be, if Gates keeps doing what he's doing, if we get a little luck with Lemieux and/or Peart, I'm not counting on Hernandez to be good but I can't rule it out completely... and if Garrett dials it up/schemes it up nicely then I see us winning 11 games AT MINIMUM!
Man! You are a ray of sunshine among all these dark clouds! Go Giants!
However, I think by the end of this year we will in fact win this division (better coached than Dallas; WFT lacks QB for long haul; Philly rebuilding) and make some noise in the playoffs.
If this defense is Top 8 and this run offense really comes on late with deep balls to Galloday keeping defenses honest, we can make some noise this year and perhaps surprise?
Getting Barkley back, adding Toney, adding Golladay, adding another talented TE and RZ target... and "we'll be no better in 2021"?? Really, that's what you think?