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New York Giants Mandatory Mini-Camp - Day 3

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 8:37 am


Thursday, June 10

Approx. 11:00 a.m. – Head Coach Joe Judge Available (via Zoom)

11:30 a.m. – 1:30 p.m. – Practice

Approx. 1:35 p.m. – Player Interviews (via Zoom)
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 8:46 am : link
Giants may not be able to win games, but at least the PR department can make you think they are good...
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1402785080267923461 - ( New Window )
This team is going  
jvm52106 : 6/10/2021 8:51 am : link
to be 11-6 and in the playoffs.
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 8:54 am : link
there are two OTA practice sessions next week, but without media access.

So today is the last media access to the team until training camp starts.
Leonard..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2021 9:01 am : link
may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".



RE: PR department can make you think they are good...  
Trainmaster : 6/10/2021 9:10 am : link
Except for the horrible music they chose to accompany the video, which caused me to watch it with the sound off.

RE: Leonard..  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 9:26 am : link
In comment 15283686 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".




He either consciously or subconsciously loves to troll Giants fans. It's just constant with him. He also asks some of the worst questions during press conferences, which is saying something with this group.
RE: Leonard..  
Klaatu : 6/10/2021 9:39 am : link
In comment 15283686 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".




"...doesn't say much for Daniel Jones." Because the pass was behind Booker's head.

Don't ever make me defend Pat Leonard again.
I love this so much  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2021 9:42 am : link
RE: RE: Leonard..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2021 9:44 am : link
In comment 15283717 Klaatu said:
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In comment 15283686 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".






"...doesn't say much for Daniel Jones." Because the pass was behind Booker's head.

Don't ever make me defend Pat Leonard again.


I think it is stupid to make those kind of statements in an OTA. But it is what Leonard does
RE: RE: RE: Leonard..  
Klaatu : 6/10/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15283726 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".


"...doesn't say much for Daniel Jones." Because the pass was behind Booker's head.

Don't ever make me defend Pat Leonard again.


I think it is stupid to make those kind of statements in an OTA. But it is what Leonard does


Most of what happens in OTA's is meaningless, and so is the commentary.

Still, Leonard is enough of a douchebag on his own without being misquoted.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Leonard..  
section125 : 6/10/2021 10:03 am : link
In comment 15283743 Klaatu said:
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In comment 15283726 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".


"...doesn't say much for Daniel Jones." Because the pass was behind Booker's head.

Don't ever make me defend Pat Leonard again.


I think it is stupid to make those kind of statements in an OTA. But it is what Leonard does



Most of what happens in OTA's is meaningless, and so is the commentary.

Still, Leonard is enough of a douchebag on his own without being misquoted.


However, the point is Devontae made the catch. So Jones got the ball there close enough for a completed pass. Not every QB puts every ball in a perfect spot on every throw...in fact, none do.
Did he comment on perfect throws that were dropped?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leonard..  
Klaatu : 6/10/2021 10:10 am : link
In comment 15283747 section125 said:
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In comment 15283743 Klaatu said:


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In comment 15283726 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".


"...doesn't say much for Daniel Jones." Because the pass was behind Booker's head.

Don't ever make me defend Pat Leonard again.


I think it is stupid to make those kind of statements in an OTA. But it is what Leonard does



Most of what happens in OTA's is meaningless, and so is the commentary.

Still, Leonard is enough of a douchebag on his own without being misquoted.



However, the point is Devontae made the catch. So Jones got the ball there close enough for a completed pass. Not every QB puts every ball in a perfect spot on every throw...in fact, none do.
Did he comment on perfect throws that were dropped?


That's irrelevant. If you want to damn him, then damn him for what he actually said.
Is..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2021 10:13 am : link
there really a huge difference between "for" and "about"? It was written as a dismissal of Jones.
RE: the  
armstead98 : 6/10/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15283679 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants may not be able to win games, but at least the PR department can make you think they are good... https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1402785080267923461 - ( New Window )


What DB made the pick in that highlight?
RE: RE: the  
Bill in UT : 6/10/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15283765 armstead98 said:
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In comment 15283679 Eric from BBI said:


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Giants may not be able to win games, but at least the PR department can make you think they are good... https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1402785080267923461 - ( New Window )



What DB made the pick in that highlight?


Probably Beal,lol
RE: Leonard..  
cokeduplt : 6/10/2021 10:51 am : link
In comment 15283686 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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may be the worst beat ever. He just posts stupid shit:

"Why Devonte Booker's great catch doesn't say much about Daniel Jones".




He’s a professional troll. I don’t why any one pays him any mind.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 10:58 am : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
From what I hear, there is a good chance the Giants have joint practices with TWO teams this summer, in Cleveland and in NE. As Reiss says per BB, plans are in the works.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:07 am : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Joe Judge says he's "a big fan" of joint practices, and essentially confirms conversations with Browns and Pats.

Cleveland is finalized, Pats and NYG still working out details, from what I'm told. #NYGiants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:07 am : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
As we've talked previously, Giants-Pats joint practices would be in Foxboro, even though their preseason game is at MetLife
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:08 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said Kyle Rudolph is always arriving early, “opening the door up for the coaches”.

Said he’s working hard rehabbing his foot injury. He’s been out in minicamp. #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:09 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Judge said Rudolph, Anderson and Brown are all working on different things. We know Rudolph is recovering from a foot issue but Judge doesn't say what Anderson and Brown have.)
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:10 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said he contacted Sterling Shepard after Kadarius Toney was drafted just to ensure him that it didn’t impact him. They don’t view Toney as only a slot receiver. #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:11 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Judge on toney - getting better every day...building position flexibility with him and pleased with his progress
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:16 am : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Judge made it sound a bit iffy that TE Kyle Rudolph will be back from his surgery for the start of training camp, but as usual gave no clear timeline on the injury recovery period.
RE: the  
ZogZerg : 6/10/2021 11:21 am : link
In comment 15283679 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants may not be able to win games, but at least the PR department can make you think they are good... https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1402785080267923461 - ( New Window )


LOL. I remember when I couldn't get videos to run from Giants.com. At least now with twitter and YouTube, videos run great;)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 11:33 am : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
Something of note from Giants minicamp: They’re not running any completely live drills. So no real contested catches. No INTs. Nothing to allow for evaluation of linemen.

Main goal is to get guys acclimated to program, plays and systems so they can operate freely in summer.
RE: ...  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/10/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15283804 Eric from BBI said:
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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said he contacted Sterling Shepard after Kadarius Toney was drafted just to ensure him that it didn’t impact him. They don’t view Toney as only a slot receiver. #Giants
Interesting and thoughtful...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 12:03 pm : link
Paul Schwartz

@NYPost_Schwartz
Rookie WR Kadarius Toney is not at practice today. He has a family emergency and Joe Judge gave him permission to leave.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leonard..  
section125 : 6/10/2021 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15283757 Klaatu said:
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However, the point is Devontae made the catch. So Jones got the ball there close enough for a completed pass. Not every QB puts every ball in a perfect spot on every throw...in fact, none do.
Did he comment on perfect throws that were dropped?



That's irrelevant. If you want to damn him, then damn him for what he actually said.


What?
I don’t want to be that guy  
gersh : 6/10/2021 12:41 pm : link
But hasn’t there been something going with Toney a lot ?
I don’t want to be concerned and admittedly there’s not much to go on. However, after Sy’s comments I am hyper aware.
A Tiger cannot change  
BigBlueJ : 6/10/2021 1:13 pm : link
their stripes... John Ross undisclosed injury.
RE: I don’t want to be that guy  
jvm52106 : 6/10/2021 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15283882 gersh said:
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But hasn’t there been something going with Toney a lot ?
I don’t want to be concerned and admittedly there’s not much to go on. However, after Sy’s comments I am hyper aware.


Family emergency seems like a legit issue. I will worry more when it is actually training camp.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 1:15 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
John Ross just left practice early. He’s clearly been dealing with some sort of injury.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 1:15 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Kyle Rudolph is out catching passes with Daniel Jones. Rudolph is staying stationary but this is a major step forward for him. #Giants
RE: ...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2021 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15283827 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
Something of note from Giants minicamp: They’re not running any completely live drills. So no real contested catches. No INTs. Nothing to allow for evaluation of linemen.

Main goal is to get guys acclimated to program, plays and systems so they can operate freely in summer.


Jordan always manages to say something dumb while trying to sound smart.

How exactly are you going to evaluate linemen in shorts with no contact allowed and no live opponent?
RE: ...  
Klaatu : 6/10/2021 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15283909 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
John Ross just left practice early. He’s clearly been dealing with some sort of injury.


Okay, who had Ross getting hurt on June 10th in the pool?
RE: I don’t want to be that guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2021 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15283882 gersh said:
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But hasn’t there been something going with Toney a lot ?
I don’t want to be concerned and admittedly there’s not much to go on. However, after Sy’s comments I am hyper aware.


This illustrates the unfair downside of non-specific and un-sourced rumor whispering.
RE: RE: I don’t want to be that guy  
Snacks : 6/10/2021 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15283913 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15283882 gersh said:


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But hasn’t there been something going with Toney a lot ?
I don’t want to be concerned and admittedly there’s not much to go on. However, after Sy’s comments I am hyper aware.



This illustrates the unfair downside of non-specific and un-sourced rumor whispering.


+1

Let's all take a deep breath.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2021 1:37 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Giants minicamp is over.
Two OTAs left, next Monday and Tuesday, and it'll likely mostly be rookies and young-ish players.
Veterans are done until training camp for all intents and purposes.
It’s entirely possible that whatever family emergency Toney left for,  
Spider56 : 6/10/2021 2:03 pm : link
has been ongoing for some time and is the reason behind his missing OTAs. Need to remind ourselves these guys really are human with the same off the job issues the rest of us have.
RE: It’s entirely possible that whatever family emergency Toney left for,  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15283954 Spider56 said:
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has been ongoing for some time and is the reason behind his missing OTAs. Need to remind ourselves these guys really are human with the same off the job issues the rest of us have.

This is the likeliest explanation.
RE: RE: It’s entirely possible that whatever family emergency Toney left for,  
robbieballs2003 : 6/10/2021 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15283969 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15283954 Spider56 said:


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has been ongoing for some time and is the reason behind his missing OTAs. Need to remind ourselves these guys really are human with the same off the job issues the rest of us have.


This is the likeliest explanation.


I'm not judging but apparently he has been posting a handful of times with getting jewelry in the area. If there was a continuous family emergency you'd think he wouldn't be in the area getting a diamond grill.
RE: RE: RE: It’s entirely possible that whatever family emergency Toney left for,  
BigBlueShock : 6/10/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15283979 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15283954 Spider56 said:


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has been ongoing for some time and is the reason behind his missing OTAs. Need to remind ourselves these guys really are human with the same off the job issues the rest of us have.


This is the likeliest explanation.



I'm not judging but apparently he has been posting a handful of times with getting jewelry in the area. If there was a continuous family emergency you'd think he wouldn't be in the area getting a diamond grill.

Actually, it absolutely sounds like you are judging.

He was in town for the first couple of days of mini camp. They only practice for a couple of hours per day. What’s he supposed to do while in town and not practicing? Hide out in his hotel room and wallow in his miseries?
I'm not monitoring anyone's social media  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2021 2:56 pm : link
so I don't know what he's doing or where he's taking pictures, but any absence from activity is acceptable if the team says it is. Family members don't have to be dying for it to be okay.
Toney was supposedly at some of the OTAs  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/10/2021 3:50 pm : link
but not the ones where the press were allowed in the building.
RE: I'm not monitoring anyone's social media  
81_Great_Dane : 6/10/2021 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15284037 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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so I don't know what he's doing or where he's taking pictures, but any absence from activity is acceptable if the team says it is. Family members don't have to be dying for it to be okay.
There's a part of the fan base that is only happy if the player says nothing, wears his hair short, has only a wedding ring for jewelry, listens to oldies, takes less money than he can earn to help the team with the cap and swings by now and then to wash fans' cars and pose for selfies.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It’s entirely possible that whatever family emergency Toney left for,  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/10/2021 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15284030 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15283969 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 15283954 Spider56 said:


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has been ongoing for some time and is the reason behind his missing OTAs. Need to remind ourselves these guys really are human with the same off the job issues the rest of us have.


This is the likeliest explanation.



I'm not judging but apparently he has been posting a handful of times with getting jewelry in the area. If there was a continuous family emergency you'd think he wouldn't be in the area getting a diamond grill.


Actually, it absolutely sounds like you are judging.

He was in town for the first couple of days of mini camp. They only practice for a couple of hours per day. What’s he supposed to do while in town and not practicing? Hide out in his hotel room and wallow in his miseries?


It's fine to judge, but it's off base. If he was at a bar getting a few drinks would you be judging him harshly? Guy is doing some shopping to make himself feel better for whatever shitty situation he's dealing with.
RE: RE: I'm not monitoring anyone's social media  
Klaatu : 6/10/2021 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15284102 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 15284037 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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so I don't know what he's doing or where he's taking pictures, but any absence from activity is acceptable if the team says it is. Family members don't have to be dying for it to be okay.

There's a part of the fan base that is only happy if the player says nothing, wears his hair short, has only a wedding ring for jewelry, listens to oldies, takes less money than he can earn to help the team with the cap and swings by now and then to wash fans' cars and pose for selfies.


And stays the hell off my lawn!
My biggest concern about Toney is how hard he cuts snd move  
George from PA : 6/10/2021 5:46 pm : link
Which makes him a weapon....but also scares me with MetLife turf.
RE: RE: the  
shyster : 6/10/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15283765 armstead98 said:
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In comment 15283679 Eric from BBI said:


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Giants may not be able to win games, but at least the PR department can make you think they are good... https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1402785080267923461 - ( New Window )



What DB made the pick in that highlight?


Madre Harper #45, I think.
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