Quotes from his press conference on his head coach prospects:
| To me, the Giants, this is my dream job to be here as the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants. So I'm just happy to be here. |
| But in terms of desire to be head coach, I love coaching football. I love being a teacher that happens to teach football. You know, everybody in their profession likes a natural progression. If it comes up one day, it comes up one day. But is it the focus of my life, absolutely not. To be honest with you, it's not the focus. The focus is to coach ballplayers, teach, be around these guys, do a good job for my boss, my head coach and whatever I'm doing, I'm making sure I'm making my parents proud and my family proud. |
I wasn't surprised he garnered attention -- I think he's a lock to be a head coach next year.
He's everything you want in a leader of your program. Super smart guy, great charisma, great pedigree, great attitude.
Add Graham to the list of Giants defensive coordinators who is going to accomplish big things after his stint with the Giants.
Beat me to it.
He was creepy to me as a kid and Tom Hanks, did him justice in the movie, where he came off just as creepy. Not sure if you meant Aaron or not, but I made the correction;)
Was definitely a great hire.
Almost like taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef.
Almost like taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef.
While I agree that being a good coordinator is no guarantee of head coaching success (hello Pat Shurmur)...that’s a terrible analogy.
DC: 1-2 million with usually 2 year contracts.
1st time HC: 4-? million five year contract.
Very tough turning that down no matter how much you like being a DC or the tradition of a organization. Maybe he turns out to be a rare one that says "I could make a lot more but I'm happy and already make plenty". If I was his HC I'd push him out the door and tell him you can always come back.
The NFL ownership does not really hire minority head coaches
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but just because a guy is an excellent coordinator, it does not mean he will be even a good head coach. Those are two different roles.
Almost like taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef.
While I agree that being a good coordinator is no guarantee of head coaching success (hello Pat Shurmur)...that’s a terrible analogy.
+1.
His first statement is a fact we can all agree on. But the hostess/head chef anology makes zero sense.
I don't think you're in the minority with that belief. That's been proven many times. But the fact that not all great coordinators make great HCs, doesn't mean a team won't give him the opportunity (to prove he's not in that club).
Most great HCs were coordinators at one time and it seems like hot coordinators get opportunities almost every year (what's the alternative? NFL retreads or college HCs?).
I hope PG still considers this his dream job a yr to 3 from now.
+1.
His first statement is a fact we can all agree on. But the hostess/head chef anology makes zero sense.
The point and reason for the analogy is it is apples vs oranges. One has nothing to do with the other.
The NFL ownership does not really hire minority head coaches
NFL has 5: Saleh, Culley, Tomlin, Flores, and Rivera.
NFL has recognized that one of the problems is there aren't enough minority coaches being groomed and in proper positions to where they will be head coaching candidates (usually DC/OC). Thus, they are giving the two 3rd round picks to a team that has a minority coach hired from their ranks.
If Graham puts up a top defense again, he should get offers.
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+1.
His first statement is a fact we can all agree on. But the hostess/head chef anology makes zero sense.
The point and reason for the analogy is it is apples vs oranges. One has nothing to do with the other.
An NFL Coordinator being considered for an NFL HC position likely has a minimum of 25 years of football experience and has been successful at a number of levels, as he progressed through the coaching ranks.
A Head Chef at a restaurant likely has a minimum of 20 years of food production experience and even if he was a culinary school grad he probably still started out as a 2nd or 3rd cook, before progressing to first cook and then chef.
And while an NFL Coordinator may not make a good NFL coach, no one is going to dispute his football knowledge and experience.
A hostess likely has no restaurant-level food production experience. So she would never even be considered for a head chef’s position.
Promoting a coordinator to HC (a job he spent 25+ years preparing for) is absolutely nothing like “taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef”.
It’s just a poor analogy.
A better analogy would be making the head chef a GM. Yeah he has a deep understanding of the details of the food and his area of the house, but the GM is overseeing the whole restaurant.
DC: 1-2 million with usually 2 year contracts.
1st time HC: 4-? million five year contract.
Very tough turning that down no matter how much you like being a DC or the tradition of a organization. Maybe he turns out to be a rare one that says "I could make a lot more but I'm happy and already make plenty". If I was his HC I'd push him out the door and tell him you can always come back.
If you are a hot coordinator, it makes a lot more sense to call his shot, than take whatever comes up first. Most guys only get one shot, and an awful situation can cause your ass out the door when you have little control over it. Contrary to popular belief depending on situation it can take 2-3 years to turn things around. And even longer if you don't have the QB in place.
That guy Steve Wilks was a pretty hot minority candidate, he lasted a year in Arizona, and haven't heard his name since.
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but just because a guy is an excellent coordinator, it does not mean he will be even a good head coach. Those are two different roles.
Almost like taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef.
While I agree that being a good coordinator is no guarantee of head coaching success (hello Pat Shurmur)...that’s a terrible analogy.
An even better example, especially because it is a defensive coordinator would be Arnsparger. Defensive coordinator for the undefeated Dolphin's team, terrible head coach for the Giants, and then back to being a top flight defensive coordinator for the Dolphins.
Almost like taking an amazing restaurant hostess and promoting her to head chef.
My daughter is an amazing restaurant hostess. But I broke the bad news to her last night and told her to forget ever becoming a chef or an NFL Head Coach...
His love for the Giants kept him this year. We get a comp pick if he becomes a HC next year. He did us a solid, because he probably could have gotten a job this year.
Extremely competent and very personable. But as a head coach, that's a "horse of a different color" - you need a bit of a hard edge.
I know Spags proved he didn't have that (at the Rams); it's not fair to say Graham doesn't, either at this point. I'm just glad he's here working hard for us.
As Philly most likely did with Jim Johnson and the Steelers with Dick LeBeau..
If Adoree plays up to his potential and the defense stays reasonably healthy, he’s probably going to be one of the hottest candidates on market. Only way he’s here in 2022 is if he doesn’t like any of the opportunities.
One thing Judge has changed is he’s clearly instituted a system to replace coaching talent too. I feel like in past whenever we’d lose coordinators due to promotion or poor performance it seemed like we’ve been pretty much caught with our pants down because there was no investment further down the coaching hierarchy.