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Many Giants on Good Morning Football This Week - Bart Oates

FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2021 9:28 am
Had Blake Martinez on yesterday and James Bradberry on today, but they also had an oldtimer on today - Bart Oates!!

Great interview.

- He was on Aqua Team Hunger Force as the ghost of himself!
- Toughest player he had to face? In practice every day - Jim Burt
- Best Phil Simms story - Reggie White picked up Oates and threw him into Phil, sacking him without actually laying a hand on him. Phil starts yelling "C'mon Oates, What's going on?" And Bart said "You try blocking that dude!"
- As a Center. "I was there without being there" Thought that was a great comment

Martinez was amped up and very excited about the season while Bradberry is really laid back. They had to actually show clips of Jabril Peppers talking trash to add some excitement to the discussion!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/11/2021 9:51 am : link
only relatively decent football conversation I can find anymore is on that show, which isn't saying much. But they occasionally have decent discussions on the Giants. Best strategy is simply to search YouTube for clips rather than waiting for a good segment.
Always felt that the Giants drive to the mid-80s Super Bowl  
M.S. : 6/11/2021 9:52 am : link

got a huge boost with the 1985 selection of Bart Oats out of the USFL. The pocket for Giants' QBs seemed to get a lot cleaner/friendlier that season.

RE: Always felt that the Giants drive to the mid-80s Super Bowl  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/11/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15284501 M.S. said:
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got a huge boost with the 1985 selection of Bart Oats out of the USFL. The pocket for Giants' QBs seemed to get a lot cleaner/friendlier that season.


Nah. Kevin Belcher was a heck of a center for the Giants in 1984. But he was in a horrific car accident in the offseason and never played again. The signing of Oates saved the day, but if Kevin never got in that accident, I doubt the Giants sign Oates.
RE: RE: Always felt that the Giants drive to the mid-80s Super Bowl  
M.S. : 6/11/2021 10:04 am : link
In comment 15284505 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15284501 M.S. said:


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got a huge boost with the 1985 selection of Bart Oats out of the USFL. The pocket for Giants' QBs seemed to get a lot cleaner/friendlier that season.




Nah. Kevin Belcher was a heck of a center for the Giants in 1984. But he was in a horrific car accident in the offseason and never played again. The signing of Oates saved the day, but if Kevin never got in that accident, I doubt the Giants sign Oates.

That was really sad news about Kevin Belcher!
Loved when the used to announce the starters  
Jints in Carolina : 6/11/2021 11:13 am : link
on offense....Bob Sheppard's was the greatest

From BYU....Center....Numba 65....Bot Oates
I loved..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2021 11:19 am : link
Sheppard.

"Rogers spilled by Carson, 2nd and 9"
Simms to Bavaro....tackled by Green  
Jints in Carolina : 6/11/2021 11:24 am : link
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RE: I loved..  
Jints in Carolina : 6/11/2021 11:28 am : link
In comment 15284554 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Sheppard.

"Rogers spilled by Carson, 2nd and 9"


I read that in his voice....chills man
The first year Simms and Oates worked together  
arniefez : 6/11/2021 11:31 am : link
had a few disastrous center QB exchanges that cost the Giants. The worst one was a night game vs Dallas that literally lost the game for them while they were running out the clock. Apparently Simms had a somewhat unique way of receiving the snap and it took Oates a while to adjust to it.

Oates was a good player and he had good years in SF too. Shaun O'Hara was a similar type center. Athletic and smart but a little undersized in their era's.
Belcher...  
Johnny5 : 6/11/2021 11:38 am : link
... I forgot about Belcher. That was tragic.

Oates was a great dude, and he and Burt (and Matt Millen) were really good friends (Hence a big reason why Burt and Oates ended up in SF together). My friend (well coworker from Quest Fitness really more than friend) Used to babysit / nanny for the Oates kids.
Not only..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2021 11:43 am : link
was Belcher's injury tragic, but then he went on to be a successful businessman yet died in his late 30's or early 40's.

I don't think the cause of death was related to his injury, but I can't remember.
RE: Not only..  
Ivan15 : 6/11/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15284577 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was Belcher's injury tragic, but then he went on to be a successful businessman yet died in his late 30's or early 40's.

I don't think the cause of death was related to his injury, but I can't remember.


I had forgotten about Kevin Belcher until about a month ago. I just looked him up on Wiki. If the info is correct. There were 2 o-line players named Kevin Belcher with the same birth year, both with short NFL careers. “Our” Kevin Belcher died in 2003 at the age of 42. His injuries affected him his whole life and probably contributed though not caused his death. The other Kevin Belcher died in 1996 at age 35,
Wow..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2021 12:16 pm : link
that's eerie. I remember the other guy. He was a Raider I think. Didn't realize he passed too.
RE: Loved when the used to announce the starters  
Jimmy Googs : 6/11/2021 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15284553 Jints in Carolina said:
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on offense....Bob Sheppard's was the greatest

From BYU....Center....Numba 65....Bot Oates



"...Taylor on the tackle".
One other things about Bart Oats  
M.S. : 6/11/2021 12:59 pm : link

He not only won two Super Bowls with the Giants, but also one with San Fran, and two USFL Championships with the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars.

This guy could play.
RE: One other things about Bart Oats  
Johnny5 : 6/11/2021 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15284644 M.S. said:
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He not only won two Super Bowls with the Giants, but also one with San Fran, and two USFL Championships with the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars.

This guy could play.

For sure, and he left the Giants because they were starting Brian Williams. It's funny because a bunch of guys on those SF teams from that era had multiple SBs with different teams... Matt Millen, Ken Norton, Oates, Burt, Charles Haley.. and I'm sure there are more I'm not remembering... lol
Bart Oates  
Samiam : 6/11/2021 2:39 pm : link
He used to go to the gym that I used to belong to preCovid. He may have been a part owner or investor. He was in early most morning and was a totally nice guy, very approachable and seemed to love to talk football especially the OLine. He lost an outrageous amount of weight, was big but not much fat. Any way, I think it was at least 5 years ago or more that he said the Giants would have problems because the OL was weak and this was when we still had expectations that the Giants would make the playoffs and then Eli would do his thing in the playoffs. He was exactly right. I wish I could get his take on the current OL.
RE: Bart Oates  
Big Blue '56 : 6/11/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15284737 Samiam said:
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He used to go to the gym that I used to belong to preCovid. He may have been a part owner or investor. He was in early most morning and was a totally nice guy, very approachable and seemed to love to talk football especially the OLine. He lost an outrageous amount of weight, was big but not much fat. Any way, I think it was at least 5 years ago or more that he said the Giants would have problems because the OL was weak and this was when we still had expectations that the Giants would make the playoffs and then Eli would do his thing in the playoffs. He was exactly right. I wish I could get his take on the current OL.


Re current take on OL, I’d give it this season and then ask him that question.
This was a great interview!  
Simms11 : 6/11/2021 6:12 pm : link
I loved Bart Oates. I met him personally prior to my deployment to Iraq in 2008. He is a great guy and spent time talking to me. He even let me wear his Super Bowl ring! Joe Klecko and Joe Piscopo accompanied him as well. I’ll never forget that day though.
RE: Loved when the used to announce the starters  
mattnyg05 : 6/11/2021 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15284553 Jints in Carolina said:
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on offense....Bob Sheppard's was the greatest

From BYU....Center....Numba 65....Bot Oates


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