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NFT: Mets Gameday thread: deGrominator vs Snell

allstarjim : 6/11/2021 5:06 pm


LFGM! Nothing better in baseball than deGrom day!
Image worked in the preview  
allstarjim : 6/11/2021 5:13 pm : link
Here you go:

Villar 3B
Lindor SS
McCann C
Alonso 1B
Dom LF
Pillar CF
McKinney RF
Peraza 2B
deGrom P
Friars starting lineup  
allstarjim : 6/11/2021 5:16 pm : link
Pham LF
Machado 3B
Cronenworth 1B
Tatis Jr SS
Myers RF
Profar CF
Kim 2B
Caratini C
Snell P

How about another 14 spot tonight for Jake!

Keep hanging in there  
Metnut : 6/11/2021 5:36 pm : link
while guys get healthy. McNeil is a week away and conforto two weeks away.

Would be great to take 2 games this series. Start it off by winning Degroms game tonight
Injury updates  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 5:37 pm : link
-LG back tonight
-Almora could be back in days
-McNeil due back next weekend
-Conforto due back in two weekends
-Carrasco’s rehab delayed due to PRP treatment in leg. “Could still be back by July”
I imagine LG  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 5:39 pm : link
Will start at 2B against righties, Peraza against lefties.
Blankenhorn  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 5:41 pm : link
to Syracuse.
Stoked!  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 6:10 pm : link
Win this series, fellas!
I wonder if Cohen replaced the Mets medical team  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 6:36 pm : link
yet....

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.
I mean, I’m not a doctor but I can’t help but wonder  
CooperDash : 6/11/2021 6:45 pm : link
how you fuck that one up. Nerve issue vs a ligament tear? Bizarre. Also, tired of this shit happening over and over again with this team.
RE: I mean, I’m not a doctor but I can’t help but wonder  
speedywheels : 6/11/2021 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15284961 CooperDash said:
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how you fuck that one up. Nerve issue vs a ligament tear? Bizarre. Also, tired of this shit happening over and over again with this team.


Between things like this and Carrasco doing his best Jed Lowrie imitation, it's fucking maddening...
anybody actually there? Curious to know the atmoshpere  
Rory : 6/11/2021 7:03 pm : link
Citifield is back, almost full capacity.

Home, Degrom Vs Snell this feels like a playoff game

LFGM!
RE: I wonder if Cohen replaced the Mets medical team  
Rory : 6/11/2021 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15284957 pjcas18 said:
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yet....

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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24m
Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.


Honestly, I think what the Mets officials need to know and what the Mets fans/media need to know are 2 totally different "need to knows"
RE: RE: I wonder if Cohen replaced the Mets medical team  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15284973 Rory said:
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yet....

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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24m
Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.



Honestly, I think what the Mets officials need to know and what the Mets fans/media need to know are 2 totally different "need to knows"

What do you mean? Mets officials knew this diagnosis the whole time but just weren't forthcoming about it?

if so, why the second opinion from a hand surgeon in Ohio?

Not sure your point.
DeGrom with a nice 1st  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 7:16 pm : link
Always a treat to watch him pitch.
RE: RE: RE: I wonder if Cohen replaced the Mets medical team  
Rory : 6/11/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15284977 pjcas18 said:
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yet....

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.



Honestly, I think what the Mets officials need to know and what the Mets fans/media need to know are 2 totally different "need to knows"


What do you mean? Mets officials knew this diagnosis the whole time but just weren't forthcoming about it?

if so, why the second opinion from a hand surgeon in Ohio?

Not sure your point.


Its a billion dollar franchise, honestly with all the calculated analysis with everything that goes on how would they not know.

So yes I think they know about the severity with all injuries but choose not to reveal that information cause it serves no benefit.
What purpose does it serve to lie about it?  
CooperDash : 6/11/2021 7:18 pm : link
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Rory  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 7:22 pm : link
why say anything then?

Don't you realize by releasing diagnoses and time tables that are constantly wrong, and in reality the ailments are almost always worse than they initially say they look like a massive clown show.

Your opinion they actually know the actual real ailments and severity, rehab plans and duration for time missed, and are legitimately on top of these injuries, but intentionally release incorrect or misleading information on purpose because the truth serves no purpose is a really strange take.

RE: Rory  
Rory : 6/11/2021 7:28 pm : link
In comment 15284985 pjcas18 said:
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why say anything then?

Don't you realize by releasing diagnoses and time tables that are constantly wrong, and in reality the ailments are almost always worse than they initially say they look like a massive clown show.

Your opinion they actually know the actual real ailments and severity, rehab plans and duration for time missed, and are legitimately on top of these injuries, but intentionally release incorrect or misleading information on purpose because the truth serves no purpose is a really strange take.


you seem pretty agitated over this, honestly its my opinion and I don't think its strange to think the public release of information is always accurate to the media.

I work for a company that serves Twitter as a client, we always need to frame/tailor passed down information for certain reasons.

its part of damage control protocol.

You don't need to agree, just putting a different angle out there instead of the same old "Mets doctors are dysfunctional" narrative

that's just hard to fathom.
Nimmo starting a rehab assignment  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 7:30 pm : link
Next week is the best news yet of all. Hell yeah!
RE: Nimmo starting a rehab assignment  
Rory : 6/11/2021 7:39 pm : link
In comment 15284990 ZGiants98 said:
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Next week is the best news yet of all. Hell yeah!


eff yea it is! fav player vibes
deGrom is  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:07 pm : link
good at pitching.
Villar should have tagged up there  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:15 pm : link
OF had no balance
Villar  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:34 pm : link
survives an assassination attempt by the Padres ball boy.
great job McCannon!  
spike : 6/11/2021 8:34 pm : link
Padres with the spilled baseballs trick
Nice hustle double  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:37 pm : link
By pillar! Plate him.

Amazing to see him slide head first
great job by Pillar  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:37 pm : link
taking the extra base
McKinney!  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:38 pm : link
Billy the Kid!
McKinney!  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:38 pm : link
love that dude
WHOOOOO  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 8:38 pm : link
Hell yeah!
RE: McKinney!  
spike : 6/11/2021 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15285019 KDavies said:
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love that dude

He's won the fourth Outfielder job. Great pickup
Sounds like a live  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:39 pm : link
Park tonight. So ready to hit tomorrow’s game
Can anyone give a quick background on McKinney?  
Metnut : 6/11/2021 8:39 pm : link
He looks great out there but hadn’t heard of him before.
RE: Nimmo starting a rehab assignment  
Metnut : 6/11/2021 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15284990 ZGiants98 said:
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Next week is the best news yet of all. Hell yeah!


The bats are starting to get healthy. It’s exciting.
RE: Can anyone give a quick background on McKinney?  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15285023 Metnut said:
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He looks great out there but hadn’t heard of him before.


Traded for him after brewers DFA’d him. Former first round pick. Just never put it together so far.
Some nice takes  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:42 pm : link
in that AB.
RE: Can anyone give a quick background on McKinney?  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15285023 Metnut said:
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He looks great out there but hadn’t heard of him before.


1st rounder in 2013 with Oakland. Played for a number of teams. Cubs, Yankees, Brewers (where he was traded to Mets). Was in Gleyber Torres trade for Chapman
Balk!  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:44 pm : link
Get these guys in!
RE: RE: Nimmo starting a rehab assignment  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15285025 Metnut said:
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Next week is the best news yet of all. Hell yeah!



The bats are starting to get healthy. It’s exciting.


Im telling you... if this team can get even close to full strength we will maul teams...
RE: RE: Can anyone give a quick background on McKinney?  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15285028 KDavies said:
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He looks great out there but hadn’t heard of him before.



1st rounder in 2013 with Oakland. Played for a number of teams. Cubs, Yankees, Brewers (where he was traded to Mets). Was in Gleyber Torres trade for Chapman


Didn’t know he was in that trade.

Interesting.

Anything Jake can’t do?

Good Lord!
Looking up McKinney’s stats  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:48 pm : link
he is still only 26. Played about a full season worth of ABs. 25 HR 28 doubles.

Huge find for the Mets. They need the OF help. All of a sudden the OF depth does not look as bas with Fargas and McKinney to go along with Smith, Nimmo, Conforto, and Pillar
Wow. Jake the GOAT  
Ira : 6/11/2021 8:48 pm : link
!!!
RE: RE: RE: Nimmo starting a rehab assignment  
Rory : 6/11/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15285032 ZGiants98 said:
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Next week is the best news yet of all. Hell yeah!



The bats are starting to get healthy. It’s exciting.



Im telling you... if this team can get even close to full strength we will maul teams...


I cant wait to hear the crowd go off if Lugo comes into this game.
McKinney is a definite keeper  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 8:59 pm : link
If the team ever gets 100% healthy, Almora and his option can go to AAA. He's the only replace-Met that will last though IMO.
deGrom  
KDavies : 6/11/2021 8:59 pm : link
has now allowed 4 ER this year while driving in 5
Jake  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:02 pm : link
Might be tiring a bit
One more inning  
SJGiant : 6/11/2021 9:07 pm : link
Is the most for deGrom. He is tiring.
He looked gassed a bit  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:09 pm : link
Not surprised.
Fuck  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:22 pm : link
Castro getting smoked.

come on  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:22 pm : link
Pull Castro. This is BS
who didnt see  
KDubbs : 6/11/2021 9:22 pm : link
that coming
RE: who didnt see  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15285053 KDubbs said:
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that coming


Castro has been steady. This is unfortunate.
Ok Lugo  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:25 pm : link
Pick him up and get 5 outs.
need a  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:26 pm : link
DP badly
Rojas  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:26 pm : link
should double switch Guillorme in here. Go for 5 outs for Lugo.

Gimme the first two outs on on pitch, please.
What happened to Tommy Hunter  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:26 pm : link
?
RE: RE: who didnt see  
KDubbs : 6/11/2021 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15285054 jpkmets said:
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that coming



Castro has been steady. This is unfortunate.


i know but its still pretty much expected. a few holds lately doesnt change the unfortunate history for Jakes leads
Pull deGrom after only 80 pitches?  
bcinsd : 6/11/2021 9:30 pm : link
Padres fans say thanks!
lets get the 2  
KDubbs : 6/11/2021 9:31 pm : link
back
Let Lugo hit  
SJGiant : 6/11/2021 9:32 pm : link
We need innings from him
Hope  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:33 pm : link
Castro is alright...
RE: Pull deGrom after only 80 pitches?  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15285060 bcinsd said:
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Padres fans say thanks!


Jake was gassed and he was talking to the trainer. Hopefully just tired..

Would have tried to get 1 2/3 from Lugo. Not sure why he didn’t double switch.

Really can use more runs.
Rojas made a major  
SJGiant : 6/11/2021 9:34 pm : link
Mistake not double switching someone else out.
RE: RE: Pull deGrom after only 80 pitches?  
Ira : 6/11/2021 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15285064 jpkmets said:
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Padres fans say thanks!



Jake was gassed and he was talking to the trainer. Hopefully just tired..

Would have tried to get 1 2/3 from Lugo. Not sure why he didn’t double switch.

Really can use more runs.


I agree. Another inning from Lugo would have helped.
RE: Rojas made a major  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15285065 SJGiant said:
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Mistake not double switching someone else out.



And Peraza was last out. It was right there. Loup is dicey.

If there is a health issue for Lugo in terms of no multiple innings yet, ok. I can see them not wanting to have the arm stiffen between innings. Always gonna baby that partial UCL tear.

Really hope Loup has a nice outing.

Lindor is back in the soup. 1 for last 14.
This inning  
SJGiant : 6/11/2021 9:40 pm : link
Will be tough to watch. Rojas… you goofed..
Oh shit  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
Elbow soreness for Jake. Right flexor tendonitis.
Did he come into the game  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
With tendonitis? Awfully quick diagnosis
Gotta get SRF ready as the fifth starter  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:46 pm : link
.
Good job keeping your head  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:48 pm : link
Loup
Thank you Loup  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:51 pm : link
another unsung contributor from the pen.
Big out!  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 9:53 pm : link
Nice wheels, McKinney!
RE: Big out!  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15285076 jpkmets said:
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Nice wheels, McKinney!


Gotta love that speed in the outfield
We need some runs here.  
SJGiant : 6/11/2021 9:54 pm : link
Start hitting.
Overdue  
spike : 6/11/2021 9:55 pm : link
for a homer
RE: RE: Rory  
CooperDash : 6/11/2021 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15284987 Rory said:
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why say anything then?

Don't you realize by releasing diagnoses and time tables that are constantly wrong, and in reality the ailments are almost always worse than they initially say they look like a massive clown show.

Your opinion they actually know the actual real ailments and severity, rehab plans and duration for time missed, and are legitimately on top of these injuries, but intentionally release incorrect or misleading information on purpose because the truth serves no purpose is a really strange take.




you seem pretty agitated over this, honestly its my opinion and I don't think its strange to think the public release of information is always accurate to the media.

I work for a company that serves Twitter as a client, we always need to frame/tailor passed down information for certain reasons.

its part of damage control protocol.

You don't need to agree, just putting a different angle out there instead of the same old "Mets doctors are dysfunctional" narrative

that's just hard to fathom.


Nah, your take is a weird one. So, your opinion is that the Mets know the “real” situation and diagnosis all along, disseminate different information control the narrative, only to eventually release the accurate information that will make the look like a clown show anyway?

That’s a bit hard to imagine. The much more believable reason is that their doctors misdiagnosed the issue, forcing them to get a second opinion and finally diagnose the injury correctly. Much like we’ve seen many times with this team...hence the “Mets doctors are dysfunctional” complaint, and rightly so.

But super nice to hear about your irrelevant Twitter connection. You’ve really nailed down that “contrarian Mets fan” role. Good for you, champ.
Cmon  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:02 pm : link
Diaz. Nail this one down.
Handled Tatis  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:04 pm : link
Well. Nice slider.
Big win  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:11 pm : link
Great work by Diaz. These teams are very evenly matched.

Gotta hope this is nothing for deGrom
deGrom coming out  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 10:13 pm : link
Puts a huge damper on things..

Still a huge win though...
Sounds like its just tendinitis in deGrom's finger  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 10:14 pm : link
Not his elbow. Shouldn't be too bad but we have a brutal stretch coming up. We need deGrom!
RE: Sounds like its just tendinitis in deGrom's finger  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15285095 ZGiants98 said:
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Not his elbow. Shouldn't be too bad but we have a brutal stretch coming up. We need deGrom!


Ohhhhhhhh that’s a huge difference!
These Padres are top notch  
spike : 6/11/2021 10:16 pm : link
I'm glad we are doing well against them
RE: These Padres are top notch  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15285097 spike said:
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I'm glad we are doing well against them


Definitely a “two heavyweights” feel. Said it before but man, I’m excited to be out there tomorrow.
Actually conflicting reports  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 10:17 pm : link
Also seeing forearm... Yikes.
It’s an elbow  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:25 pm : link
Not a finger
He doesn’t  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:26 pm : link
sound too concerned. He sounds like it’s something he’s managed. Sounds annoyed.
Sounds like it’s nothing serious  
Everyone Relax : 6/11/2021 10:26 pm : link
Jake saying it’s something he’s felt before and doesn’t expect to miss any time p
Jake’ s a smart cat  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:27 pm : link
says that Pham had only swung at the first pitch twice in his career.

Knew they’d be aggressive after that.
.  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 10:28 pm : link
Marly Rivera
@MarlyRiveraESPN
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Jacob deGrom: "I felt it this week, in-between. I am not too concerned about because it did not get much worse as the game went on." -- Said it tightened up a bit in the 6th. "My level of concern is not too high [said he hopes not to miss any time]"
Jake is annoyed  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:28 pm : link
at all the elbow talk. Also sounded like he was gassed a bit. I could maybe see SWB up to make it a 6 man roto for a bit.
.  
pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 10:29 pm : link
Pat Ragazzo
@ragazzoreport
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"I tried pitching with a torn ligament after I got drafted, and this definitely isn't that." deGrom
ESPN saying right flexor tendinitis.  
BigBlueNH : 6/11/2021 10:31 pm : link
I agree that was an awfully fast diagnosis for a team that just fessed up to misdiagnosing Nimmo's finger issue.
RE: ESPN saying right flexor tendinitis.  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15285112 BigBlueNH said:
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I agree that was an awfully fast diagnosis for a team that just fessed up to misdiagnosing Nimmo's finger issue.


More interested in what he’s saying. Seems annoyed but not concerned. Gotta be hopeful.
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pjcas18 : 6/11/2021 10:33 pm : link
Pat Ragazzo
@ragazzoreport
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The Mets did a number of ligament tests on deGrom, moving his arm after he exited tonight and they all checked out, per the ace
Just was texting with my buddy  
bhill410 : 6/11/2021 10:33 pm : link
Who was a ortho surgeon for a team. He said if it’s actually that it’s really not a big deal but they likely are worried about ucl and they would put that out to calm people down In interim. This presser makes me feel better.
Well, maybe fool’s gold  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:36 pm : link
But I feel better after that.

Braves just lost. 7 games up in the loss column on Atl and Philly right now. Hope the Yankees maul the Phils this weekend.
Megill picked a great night to dominate  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 10:37 pm : link
In Syracuse.
For  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 10:39 pm : link
a team with no pitching in the upper minors...

Megill
Szapucki
Reid Foley
Kilome
Tropeano
Eickhoff
Oswalt

Isnt the worst I've seen. I'd still be on the look for a SP though...
Tommy Hunter  
Vanzetti : 6/11/2021 10:51 pm : link
Originally went on the DL with back soreness. It was reported by Toscano that he was progressing faster than expected and would be ready May 29 when he was due to come off the DL

However, he has a long history of back problems so I think Mets are just being cautious by push g his return to after the Break.
RE: RE: RE: Rory  
Rory : 6/11/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15285084 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15284987 Rory said:


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In comment 15284985 pjcas18 said:


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why say anything then?

Don't you realize by releasing diagnoses and time tables that are constantly wrong, and in reality the ailments are almost always worse than they initially say they look like a massive clown show.

Your opinion they actually know the actual real ailments and severity, rehab plans and duration for time missed, and are legitimately on top of these injuries, but intentionally release incorrect or misleading information on purpose because the truth serves no purpose is a really strange take.




you seem pretty agitated over this, honestly its my opinion and I don't think its strange to think the public release of information is always accurate to the media.

I work for a company that serves Twitter as a client, we always need to frame/tailor passed down information for certain reasons.

its part of damage control protocol.

You don't need to agree, just putting a different angle out there instead of the same old "Mets doctors are dysfunctional" narrative

that's just hard to fathom.



Nah, your take is a weird one. So, your opinion is that the Mets know the “real” situation and diagnosis all along, disseminate different information control the narrative, only to eventually release the accurate information that will make the look like a clown show anyway?

That’s a bit hard to imagine. The much more believable reason is that their doctors misdiagnosed the issue, forcing them to get a second opinion and finally diagnose the injury correctly. Much like we’ve seen many times with this team...hence the “Mets doctors are dysfunctional” complaint, and rightly so.

But super nice to hear about your irrelevant Twitter connection. You’ve really nailed down that “contrarian Mets fan” role. Good for you, champ.


who are you again?
RE: Tommy Hunter  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15285127 Vanzetti said:
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Originally went on the DL with back soreness. It was reported by Toscano that he was progressing faster than expected and would be ready May 29 when he was due to come off the DL

However, he has a long history of back problems so I think Mets are just being cautious by push g his return to after the Break.


Makes sense.
Hunter isnt good.  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 11:11 pm : link
Once the pen got healthy Hunter moved down to like 11th or 12th on the pecking order. As it is we have a 9 man pen and Reid Foley, who was lights out in the majors and in AAA, is in Syracuse. Y Diaz is also on the 40 and has pitched well. Vizcaino and Nogosef are also options in AAA.

There just is no room for Hunter. So rather than DFA him, we moved him to the 60 day IL to clear up a spot that way.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rory  
CooperDash : 6/12/2021 7:30 am : link
In comment 15285130 Rory said:
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Nah, your take is a weird one. So, your opinion is that the Mets know the “real” situation and diagnosis all along, disseminate different information control the narrative, only to eventually release the accurate information that will make the look like a clown show anyway?

That’s a bit hard to imagine. The much more believable reason is that their doctors misdiagnosed the issue, forcing them to get a second opinion and finally diagnose the injury correctly. Much like we’ve seen many times with this team...hence the “Mets doctors are dysfunctional” complaint, and rightly so.

But super nice to hear about your irrelevant Twitter connection. You’ve really nailed down that “contrarian Mets fan” role. Good for you, champ.



who are you again?


That’s the direction you decided to go in? Lol, okay.
From Dr. Chao  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2021 8:15 am : link
re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
@ProFootballDoc
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Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.
RE: From Dr. Chao  
jpkmets : 6/12/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15285195 pjcas18 said:
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re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
@ProFootballDoc
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18s
Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.


You know, I wonder if Cookie’s got some lingering impact from his cancer treatment that makes body repair for soft tissue move a bit slower. Hopefully the PRP helps. I would absolutely sign up for early August here.

No one in the world threw more than what, 80-90 innings last year (including playoffs, I’m sure most Mets were 60 innings or lower). Every team is going to be moving people in and out, resting, skipping starts.

Getting Carrasco and Thor back at some point in the second half would be a huge boost.
I don’t even care if Carrasco or Syndergaard  
ZGiants98 : 6/12/2021 12:27 pm : link
Help us much in the second half anymore. We can win the division without them.

My hope has been adjusted and I now only want them back in the postseason.

Even just getting them back for October could mean the difference between “contenders” and “favorites” in the postseason.
Only thing between Jake and the Cy Young is health...  
moze1021 : 6/12/2021 12:29 pm : link
I'm a bit concerned.

I think he's literally pushing the boundaries of what the human body is capable of and it's taking its toll.

With that said...if he can make 20 more starts..

For "fun" I just ran some numbers and put Jakes worst 20 starts of the last 3 years on top of his 10 starts this year... And if he was that terrible (about a 5 ERA)..he'd still finish the year at around 3.20 with a 1 WHIP...

That just puts it in some perspective how amazing he's been
RE: Only thing between Jake and the Cy Young is health...  
BobA : 6/12/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15285289 moze1021 said:
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I'm a bit concerned.

I think he's literally pushing the boundaries of what the human body is capable of and it's taking its toll.

With that said...if he can make 20 more starts..

For "fun" I just ran some numbers and put Jakes worst 20 starts of the last 3 years on top of his 10 starts this year... And if he was that terrible (about a 5 ERA)..he'd still finish the year at around 3.20 with a 1 WHIP...

That just puts it in some perspective how amazing he's been


Really Health is the only thing between Jake and Cooperstown.
RE: RE: From Dr. Chao  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15285208 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15285195 pjcas18 said:


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re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
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Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.



You know, I wonder if Cookie’s got some lingering impact from his cancer treatment that makes body repair for soft tissue move a bit slower. Hopefully the PRP helps. I would absolutely sign up for early August here.

No one in the world threw more than what, 80-90 innings last year (including playoffs, I’m sure most Mets were 60 innings or lower). Every team is going to be moving people in and out, resting, skipping starts.

Getting Carrasco and Thor back at some point in the second half would be a huge boost.


I never expected Carrasco to make 30 or even 25 starts. No way after going through chemo. That’s why Indians were willing to include him. They wanted to dump the salary

If he comes back and makes 10-12 quality starts that will be great. At this point that’s all we really need
bullet dodged for now  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2021 1:13 pm : link


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deGrom did undergo an MRI this morning, just to be cautious. "It came out clean," manager Luis Rojas said. "It was the same diagnosis [right flexor tendinitis] that we got yesterday."

All parties still expect deGrom to make his next start as scheduled.
^^  
Dr. D : 6/12/2021 1:38 pm : link
Hip hip hooray!
Conforto  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 1:50 pm : link
You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?
RE: bullet dodged for now  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15285307 pjcas18 said:
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Anthony DiComo
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deGrom did undergo an MRI this morning, just to be cautious. "It came out clean," manager Luis Rojas said. "It was the same diagnosis [right flexor tendinitis] that we got yesterday."

All parties still expect deGrom to make his next start as scheduled.


We need to keep him healthy and manage his innings this season
RE: Conforto  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15285329 Vanzetti said:
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You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?


Conforto > McKinney, but you have to wonder if McKinney might be a better player than Nimmo.
RE: Conforto  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15285329 Vanzetti said:
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You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?


Conforto > McKinney, but you have to wonder if McKinney might be a better player than Nimmo.
Conforto and Thor’s injuries  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 4:08 pm : link
Might be a blessing in disguise. If Mets win division, their missed time doesn’t hurt but could allow them to resign both on short term deals

I’m fairly certain, Sanduy was goi h to let Thor walk. Might get to
Keep him now—at least for s year
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