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allstarjim : 6/11/2021 5:06 pm


LFGM! Nothing better in baseball than deGrom day!
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RE: Tommy Hunter  
jpkmets : 6/11/2021 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15285127 Vanzetti said:
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Originally went on the DL with back soreness. It was reported by Toscano that he was progressing faster than expected and would be ready May 29 when he was due to come off the DL

However, he has a long history of back problems so I think Mets are just being cautious by push g his return to after the Break.


Makes sense.
Hunter isnt good.  
ZGiants98 : 6/11/2021 11:11 pm : link
Once the pen got healthy Hunter moved down to like 11th or 12th on the pecking order. As it is we have a 9 man pen and Reid Foley, who was lights out in the majors and in AAA, is in Syracuse. Y Diaz is also on the 40 and has pitched well. Vizcaino and Nogosef are also options in AAA.

There just is no room for Hunter. So rather than DFA him, we moved him to the 60 day IL to clear up a spot that way.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rory  
CooperDash : 6/12/2021 7:30 am : link
In comment 15285130 Rory said:
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Nah, your take is a weird one. So, your opinion is that the Mets know the “real” situation and diagnosis all along, disseminate different information control the narrative, only to eventually release the accurate information that will make the look like a clown show anyway?

That’s a bit hard to imagine. The much more believable reason is that their doctors misdiagnosed the issue, forcing them to get a second opinion and finally diagnose the injury correctly. Much like we’ve seen many times with this team...hence the “Mets doctors are dysfunctional” complaint, and rightly so.

But super nice to hear about your irrelevant Twitter connection. You’ve really nailed down that “contrarian Mets fan” role. Good for you, champ.



who are you again?


That’s the direction you decided to go in? Lol, okay.
From Dr. Chao  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2021 8:15 am : link
re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
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Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.
RE: From Dr. Chao  
jpkmets : 6/12/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15285195 pjcas18 said:
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re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
@ProFootballDoc
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Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.


You know, I wonder if Cookie’s got some lingering impact from his cancer treatment that makes body repair for soft tissue move a bit slower. Hopefully the PRP helps. I would absolutely sign up for early August here.

No one in the world threw more than what, 80-90 innings last year (including playoffs, I’m sure most Mets were 60 innings or lower). Every team is going to be moving people in and out, resting, skipping starts.

Getting Carrasco and Thor back at some point in the second half would be a huge boost.
I don’t even care if Carrasco or Syndergaard  
ZGiants98 : 6/12/2021 12:27 pm : link
Help us much in the second half anymore. We can win the division without them.

My hope has been adjusted and I now only want them back in the postseason.

Even just getting them back for October could mean the difference between “contenders” and “favorites” in the postseason.
Only thing between Jake and the Cy Young is health...  
moze1021 : 6/12/2021 12:29 pm : link
I'm a bit concerned.

I think he's literally pushing the boundaries of what the human body is capable of and it's taking its toll.

With that said...if he can make 20 more starts..

For "fun" I just ran some numbers and put Jakes worst 20 starts of the last 3 years on top of his 10 starts this year... And if he was that terrible (about a 5 ERA)..he'd still finish the year at around 3.20 with a 1 WHIP...

That just puts it in some perspective how amazing he's been
RE: Only thing between Jake and the Cy Young is health...  
BobA : 6/12/2021 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15285289 moze1021 said:
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I'm a bit concerned.

I think he's literally pushing the boundaries of what the human body is capable of and it's taking its toll.

With that said...if he can make 20 more starts..

For "fun" I just ran some numbers and put Jakes worst 20 starts of the last 3 years on top of his 10 starts this year... And if he was that terrible (about a 5 ERA)..he'd still finish the year at around 3.20 with a 1 WHIP...

That just puts it in some perspective how amazing he's been


Really Health is the only thing between Jake and Cooperstown.
RE: RE: From Dr. Chao  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15285208 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15285195 pjcas18 said:


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re; Carasco and his PRP injection:

David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc
@ProFootballDoc
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18s
Already been a long time but this pushes back return to a best case scenario of August.



You know, I wonder if Cookie’s got some lingering impact from his cancer treatment that makes body repair for soft tissue move a bit slower. Hopefully the PRP helps. I would absolutely sign up for early August here.

No one in the world threw more than what, 80-90 innings last year (including playoffs, I’m sure most Mets were 60 innings or lower). Every team is going to be moving people in and out, resting, skipping starts.

Getting Carrasco and Thor back at some point in the second half would be a huge boost.


I never expected Carrasco to make 30 or even 25 starts. No way after going through chemo. That’s why Indians were willing to include him. They wanted to dump the salary

If he comes back and makes 10-12 quality starts that will be great. At this point that’s all we really need
bullet dodged for now  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2021 1:13 pm : link


Anthony DiComo
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deGrom did undergo an MRI this morning, just to be cautious. "It came out clean," manager Luis Rojas said. "It was the same diagnosis [right flexor tendinitis] that we got yesterday."

All parties still expect deGrom to make his next start as scheduled.
^^  
Dr. D : 6/12/2021 1:38 pm : link
Hip hip hooray!
Conforto  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 1:50 pm : link
You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?
RE: bullet dodged for now  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15285307 pjcas18 said:
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Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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deGrom did undergo an MRI this morning, just to be cautious. "It came out clean," manager Luis Rojas said. "It was the same diagnosis [right flexor tendinitis] that we got yesterday."

All parties still expect deGrom to make his next start as scheduled.


We need to keep him healthy and manage his innings this season
RE: Conforto  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15285329 Vanzetti said:
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You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?


Conforto > McKinney, but you have to wonder if McKinney might be a better player than Nimmo.
RE: Conforto  
spike : 6/12/2021 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15285329 Vanzetti said:
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You really have to wonder about his future with the Mets. Bill M is hitting as well as MC ever did and plays better defense. Small sample obviously

But will Conforto get a multi year offer from Mets?


Conforto > McKinney, but you have to wonder if McKinney might be a better player than Nimmo.
Conforto and Thor’s injuries  
Vanzetti : 6/12/2021 4:08 pm : link
Might be a blessing in disguise. If Mets win division, their missed time doesn’t hurt but could allow them to resign both on short term deals

I’m fairly certain, Sanduy was goi h to let Thor walk. Might get to
Keep him now—at least for s year
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