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I'd crap my pants if I got one of these in a big game

Snacks : 6/11/2021 9:39 pm
As a PR.

From big blue views observations of minicamp:

Riley Dixon was hitting some weird-looking punts Thursday, on purpose. Standing with AP Giants reporter Tom Canavan, the only description we could come up with was “helicopter punting.” Dixon was dropping the oblong ball sideways and hitting with a rotation that looked like a helicopter blade. The effect was to make the ball act like a fade shot in golf, which means a shot from a right-handed player that moves to the right while in flight. These looked insanely hard to judge, and to catch. Darnay Holmes would likely agree as he dropped two of them and barely hung onto a third.
What a great thing to hear about in the off-season  
glowrider : 6/11/2021 9:56 pm : link
Even the punter is putting in the time and developing new skills.
Nice  
robbieballs2003 : 6/11/2021 9:57 pm : link
I wonder what the hang time is one them.
That is a more "creative" play  
81_Great_Dane : 6/11/2021 9:57 pm : link
than any offensive or defensive formation. If it works in games, it could catch on.
Kick that thing as high as possible and let it fly  
glowrider : 6/11/2021 10:11 pm : link
Sacrifice some distance if necessary because the play is on the ball immediately and the more air, the more movement. Catch a good gust…

Love it.
RE: Kick that thing as high as possible and let it fly  
TC : 6/11/2021 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15285091 glowrider said:
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Sacrifice some distance if necessary because the play is on the ball immediately and the more air, the more movement. Catch a good gust…

Love it.

Should still be waiting for it to come down at half time!
RE: Nice  
santacruzom : 6/12/2021 2:26 am : link
In comment 15285081 robbieballs2003 said:
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I wonder what the hang time is one them.


I think you'd refer to it as hover time for these kicks.
RE: RE: Kick that thing as high as possible and let it fly  
glowrider : 6/12/2021 2:45 am : link
In comment 15285132 TC said:
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In comment 15285091 glowrider said:


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Sacrifice some distance if necessary because the play is on the ball immediately and the more air, the more movement. Catch a good gust…

Love it.


Should still be waiting for it to come down at half time!


I’ll time it when the “wind” “fades” my tee shot 20 yds off line this afternoon, and we can extrapolate from there. Science.
Good  
adamg : 6/12/2021 6:47 am : link
Our specials kind of sucked towards the end of the season. Need some life there.
I hope they don't call it a gadget punt  
gtt350 : 6/12/2021 10:33 am : link
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I assume you're giving up a lot of distance  
Csonka : 6/12/2021 10:39 am : link
Kicking a spiral clearly goes further. But outkicking your coverage doesn't usually go well. Maybe it's better to kick high and short with no return, adding in a decent chance at a muff due to some crazy rotation.
It might be used when a long punt goes into the end zone, so you're  
Ira : 6/12/2021 10:59 am : link
not sacrificing distance.
If the goal is to Net 40, which I believe Jeff Feagles  
glowrider : 6/12/2021 11:09 am : link
Has stated is the target for punters, I think if you have a ball that is unreturnable then you may not actually sacrifice any distance if you’re negating an opportunity at a return. And increasing the chances of a muffed punt would be worth that shot.

Not really big diff between a 55yder with a 10-15yd return than a 40-45 yd knuckler with zero return and maybe difficulty securing the catch.
RE: If the goal is to Net 40, which I believe Jeff Feagles  
Ivan15 : 6/12/2021 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15285267 glowrider said:
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Has stated is the target for punters, I think if you have a ball that is unreturnable then you may not actually sacrifice any distance if you’re negating an opportunity at a return. And increasing the chances of a muffed punt would be worth that shot.

Not really big diff between a 55yder with a 10-15yd return than a 40-45 yd knuckler with zero return and maybe difficulty securing the catch.


Big difference between fielding a 55-yard punt with no one around you because the punter outkicked the coverage, and fair catching a 40-yard punt with 3 guys waiting for you to drop the ball.
RE: RE: If the goal is to Net 40, which I believe Jeff Feagles  
glowrider : 6/12/2021 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15285333 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 15285267 glowrider said:


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Has stated is the target for punters, I think if you have a ball that is unreturnable then you may not actually sacrifice any distance if you’re negating an opportunity at a return. And increasing the chances of a muffed punt would be worth that shot.

Not really big diff between a 55yder with a 10-15yd return than a 40-45 yd knuckler with zero return and maybe difficulty securing the catch.



Big difference between fielding a 55-yard punt with no one around you because the punter outkicked the coverage, and fair catching a 40-yard punt with 3 guys waiting for you to drop the ball.


Agree. In the first case the return man can break out and have a big return. The other concept you’re likely eliminating the return, at a minimum, as the returner focuses more on just making the catch and may drift out of his lane. And if he bobbles it, your three guys pummel the daylights out of him and get that ball. Hypothetically, I dig it.
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