NFL Radio: 'Giants Would Have A Top 10 WR Corps ...

First, we signed him as the bpa replacement for OBJ.

He served a purpose, was overpaid, and well we upgraded.

Of an insane person.

Only explanation.

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I think it was Pat Kirwin’s takw.

I think he’s wrong, but it is an opinion.

So are the Giants a top 10?

Mainly it is because of Galloday I think.

But think about it, the "potential" is there based on past performance and upside of youth to see:

Galloday - 75-1150-8
Barkley 75-700-4
Shepard 70-800-5
Slayton 69-900-7
Engram 60-725-4
Toney 35-500-4

Now, will these kind of numbers be put up? Likely not as you are saying here that everyone stays healthy and produces as the ball is spread around. But the "potential" is there to have a solid passing offense IF the young guys develop.

If Galloday, Slayton, Shepard, Barkley come out of the gates healthy and in sync with Jones and the playbook, I think this offense can produce at a Top 10 level right out of the gates.

This assumes the young OL which got a lot of snaps last year comes together in a full, real camp of coaching in the same system. That is a big question mark as Lemiuex's pass protection is suspect and Peart has never been a starting RT in this league so I anticipate growing pains.

My gut says Barkley returns to form; Galloday keeps safeties honest; Slayton develops; Engram has his best season; Jones proves he is a true #1; the coaches coach up very well; and, we get off to a good start with wins over Denver at home and then a short road trip to Washington. A good start is key as we were 0 - 4 with a brutal schedule last year.

Next year, with Chicago's #1 pick which I believe will be Top 5 - 12 range, perhaps we can draft the "missing link" to bring the offense together and make a true SB run.

Note: these WR's are practicing against a very, very good secondary and that always helps.

He’s younger, faster, and doesn’t have a bad attitude

In comment 15285160 cjac said:

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He’s younger, faster, and doesn’t have a bad attitude

True, but Ross doesn't have the resume of Tate. Tate's prime was very, very good - Pro Bowl. Ross has "potential" so you hope he puts it together this year and gives us the speed to scare any defense along with Toney, Galloday and Slayton.

We have speed but will they exploit defenses?? I think Jones will do that and more!

But Kirwin and Jim Miller both said that the NYG could easily be a top-10 by the end of the year with a healthy season from Golladay and the type of season they both expect from Toney. They also said that not many teams have a 4th receiver as good as Slayton.

Career wise he caught a little over 40% of his targets which is beyond bad. That is not to say we should have kept Tate, but I'm not expecting much from Ross.

In comment 15285159 SGMen said:

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My gut says Barkley returns to form; Galloday keeps safeties honest; Slayton develops; Engram has his best season; Jones proves he is a true #1; the coaches coach up very well; and, we get off to a good start with wins over Denver at home and then a short road trip to Washington.

So your gut tells you that everything positive that CAN happen, will HAPPEN?

Not sure you can trust your gut if that's what it's telling you.

Has anyone else even signed him?

will NEVER be the same player. He had to have his ACL reconstructed, had an MCL AND meniscus injury. How will his agility NOT be affected?? Hope I'm wrong, but don't see it.
Can he still be a productive back. Sure, but a "touched by the hand of God" guy, Nope!

In comment 15285235 Dave on the UWS said:

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will NEVER be the same player. He had to have his ACL reconstructed, had an MCL AND meniscus injury. How will his agility NOT be affected?? Hope I'm wrong, but don't see it. Can he still be a productive back. Sure, but a "touched by the hand of God" guy, Nope!

I’m feeling the same way.

What crucial role would Tate play that would elevate this unit even if he were still an effective receiver. He wasn’t demonstrably better than Shepard while he was here. And as to his current skills he’s so valuable that he’s currently unemployed. Sometimes guys will say anything to fill the time.

That's all you need to know about how the league views him. Could he sign with a team before the season begins, or shortly thereafter? Sure, if a team that's short on WR's becomes even shorter, but right now no one is beating down the door to sign Golden Tate.

The Giants signed Golladay to be Jones' primary target. They still have Slayton, who went through a rough patch last year, but who's hardly a bum. Shepard's contract pretty much guarantees that he'll be on the team this year. I never was a big fan of his, but he's got good hands and is a very viable third option in the passing game, like Mario Manningham was. And then there's Toney, who can line up just about anywhere and burn a defense in a variety of ways.

After that the Giants have a bunch of guys who'll be fighting for the remaining two (probable) spots on the roster. No doubt special teams will be a big factor in determining who stays and who goes. Overall, I'd say the Giants have the makings of a damned good corps of WR's if they can keep them all relatively healthy.

They are not saying Tate is some star receiver. They are saying that the depth would put the overall WR unit in the top 10.

Never got the theory about Tate and this type of view on him.

He does not play gunner or on the kick team. He's not dangerous as a return man
So if he can't do those, what use is he?

There was some non-Giant fans on other boards acting like Tate was being held back by Jones last year. Funnily enough, his one game suspension that Mack started, Mack had more yards than Tate did in any single game last year. He's toast.

In comment 15285159 SGMen said:

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Mainly it is because of Galloday I think. But think about it, the "potential" is there based on past performance and upside of youth to see: Galloday - 75-1150-8 Barkley 75-700-4 Shepard 70-800-5 Slayton 69-900-7 Engram 60-725-4 Toney 35-500-4 Now, will these kind of numbers be put up? Likely not as you are saying here that everyone stays healthy and produces as the ball is spread around. But the "potential" is there to have a solid passing offense IF the young guys develop. If Galloday, Slayton, Shepard, Barkley come out of the gates healthy and in sync with Jones and the playbook, I think this offense can produce at a Top 10 level right out of the gates. This assumes the young OL which got a lot of snaps last year comes together in a full, real camp of coaching in the same system. That is a big question mark as Lemiuex's pass protection is suspect and Peart has never been a starting RT in this league so I anticipate growing pains. My gut says Barkley returns to form; Galloday keeps safeties honest; Slayton develops; Engram has his best season; Jones proves he is a true #1; the coaches coach up very well; and, we get off to a good start with wins over Denver at home and then a short road trip to Washington. A good start is key as we were 0 - 4 with a brutal schedule last year. Next year, with Chicago's #1 pick which I believe will be Top 5 - 12 range, perhaps we can draft the "missing link" to bring the offense together and make a true SB run. Note: these WR's are practicing against a very, very good secondary and that always helps.

Or if PFF is right, even though they have a good WR core, they still have the Giants projected to win 7 games and a power ranking of 26.

has nothing left...

Injured veteran starter. He was pretty good in the middle of his career, better than Shepard for example, but he has always been a little bit of a headache for a lot of different reasons. Not a coach killer but a pain in the butt. Just not someone you really care to have on your team because he is a good teammate. He isn’t.

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