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Route 9 : 6/12/2021 3:58 pm
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RE: A lethal combo of Luis Cessa and bad defense….  
The_Boss : 6/12/2021 6:28 pm : link
In comment 15285428 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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This one is close to being over.


it's over
DJ  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/12/2021 7:34 pm : link
That’s my DJ!!!!
RE: RE: A lethal combo of Luis Cessa and bad defense….  
The_Boss : 6/12/2021 7:34 pm : link
In comment 15285432 The_Boss said:
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In comment 15285428 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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This one is close to being over.



it's over


wow. wrong
Well, well, well.  
Mad Mike : 6/12/2021 7:34 pm : link
Stayin' alive.
Just turned the game on  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 7:34 pm : link
And DJ!!! Holy shit!
Wow for some reason i stuck with watching this game  
Giantfan21 : 6/12/2021 7:39 pm : link
That might have been DJ biggest hit of the season so far
Notihing any Yankee pitcher has done all year long  
shyster : 6/12/2021 7:40 pm : link
is as bad as Neris' walking Gardner and Wade with a three run lead in the 9th.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
RE: Notihing any Yankee pitcher has done all year long  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/12/2021 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15285459 shyster said:
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is as bad as Neris' walking Gardner and Wade with a three run lead in the 9th.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.


Chad Green says hold my beer…
......  
Route 9 : 6/12/2021 7:41 pm : link
Harper double
Rocky Dennis  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 7:42 pm : link
About to blow another one.
RE: Rocky Dennis  
The_Boss : 6/12/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15285463 Bricktop said:
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About to blow another one.


Correct.
It's coming.
In honor of former Yankee Dock Ellis,  
BigBlueNH : 6/12/2021 7:46 pm : link
today is the anniversary of his amazing feat, while a member of the Pirates July 12, 1970: believed to be the one and only pitcher to throw a no-hitter while tripping on LSD.

that was an excellent play  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 7:48 pm : link
by Torres to save the game.
fake baseball coming up  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 7:50 pm : link
let's steal this one.
Rocky!  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 7:50 pm : link
Got out of it. Huge surprise there.
correction  
BigBlueNH : 6/12/2021 7:53 pm : link
June 12
what  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 7:57 pm : link
the hell is Gary swinging at?

That was an epic fail approach in that AB.
Some great ABs there  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 8:02 pm : link
Three batters hit the ball a total of four feet. Well done.
RE: Some great ABs there  
Route 9 : 6/12/2021 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15285475 Bricktop said:
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Three batters hit the ball a total of four feet. Well done.


That one that went 1 inch from the plate was actually the best hit lol
It's like they never practiced that in spring training...  
The_Boss : 6/12/2021 8:06 pm : link
horrible defensive fundamentals.
fake baseball  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 8:10 pm : link
period.
i'd love to know the reason  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 8:12 pm : link
they didn't load up the bases with one out - particularly after they let Jankowski take second on the popup.
Clownshow  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 8:13 pm : link
From the ghost runner to the Pitcher hitting to the Yankees defense sucking cack to horrific ABs in the top of the 10th, Chapman can't throw a ball to first. This season is a disaster.
When will this staff get canned?  
The_Boss : 6/12/2021 8:13 pm : link
D stinks.
Baserunning stinks.
Hitting stinks.

That's coaching.

If you can’t even move a runner over to third  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/12/2021 8:13 pm : link
in these extra innings, you deserve to lose. Nice comeback, but ultimately bad starting pitching, use of shitty relievers, bad defense, and too many empty ABs with RISP did them in.
RE: i'd love to know the reason  
Giantfan21 : 6/12/2021 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15285481 RasputinPrime said:
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they didn't load up the bases with one out - particularly after they let Jankowski take second on the popup.


I was thinking the same thing. Load the bases and set up the DP . Seems like the obvious move that should have been made
I want Poon gone  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 8:15 pm : link
immediately. Enough is enough.
RE: i'd love to know the reason  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15285481 RasputinPrime said:
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they didn't load up the bases with one out - particularly after they let Jankowski take second on the popup.


According to Balloon Head, they wanted the K. Didn't happen and Philly was baiting Gio to throw thru to 2nd. That didn't happen either. Regardless, Chapman can't make that error.
RE: If you can’t even move a runner over to third  
rnargi : 6/12/2021 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15285484 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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in these extra innings, you deserve to lose. Nice comeback, but ultimately bad starting pitching, use of shitty relievers, bad defense, and too many empty ABs with RISP did them in.


Along with Judge striking out twice with runner on third with less than 2 outs
RE: I want Poon gone  
BigBlueShock : 6/12/2021 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15285486 Bricktop said:
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immediately. Enough is enough.

I agree, B. I’ve had enough. Not walking Segura to set up the double play there, or at a minimum the force out at home rather than a tag out is the icing on the cake. Segura is a damn good hitter. You walk him with 1st open and one out 100% of the time in that situation. ESPECIALLY when the count got to 2-0
RE: RE: I want Poon gone  
Bricktop : 6/12/2021 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15285491 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15285486 Bricktop said:


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immediately. Enough is enough.


I agree, B. I’ve had enough. Not walking Segura to set up the double play there, or at a minimum the force out at home rather than a tag out is the icing on the cake. Segura is a damn good hitter. You walk him with 1st open and one out 100% of the time in that situation. ESPECIALLY when the count got to 2-0


I'm confident any one of us could manage some of these situations better than Poon. I mean, some of this shit is checkers, not chess.
Severino groin injury  
shyster : 6/12/2021 9:09 pm : link
Rehab start leads to more rehab.


that's gotta hurt - ( New Window )
we are setting up  
RasputinPrime : 6/12/2021 9:22 pm : link
for a selloff at this point. Hal doesn't want to spend money and this team doesn't have the pieces. We have to play 100 win baseball just to make the playoffs at this point. With how much they spent on Cole i'm at a loss for their refusal to go for it.

The Rays know baseball better than the Yankees. The Bluejays have better talent top-to-bottom and the Red Sox know the importance of having top end coaching the team.

1 WS in 20 years despite being the most profitable franchise in the league. It isn't the talent on the field and ownership dedicated to winning would have done something long before now.
RE: we are setting up  
mitch300 : 6/12/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15285507 RasputinPrime said:
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for a selloff at this point. Hal doesn't want to spend money and this team doesn't have the pieces. We have to play 100 win baseball just to make the playoffs at this point. With how much they spent on Cole i'm at a loss for their refusal to go for it.

The Rays know baseball better than the Yankees. The Bluejays have better talent top-to-bottom and the Red Sox know the importance of having top end coaching the team.

1 WS in 20 years despite being the most profitable franchise in the league. It isn't the talent on the field and ownership dedicated to winning would have done something long before now.

What do you want them to do? They have over a 200 million dollar payroll. The Rays have what a 60 million dollar payroll. Throwing more money won’t solve the problem. Also, it’s not just the money aspect when you go over the luxury tax threshold. You lose international money and draft picks if I’m correct. Also who would you go get, and where would you put said player who only gets to bat 4-5 times a game. They have problems that I think we both agree. However, I don’t see the point of trading for someone and thinking that would solve the problems that they have. The Texas Rangers that don’t have the financial resources the Yankee do, rather pay Odor to play for another team than have him on their roster. Where as Aaron Hicks when he comes back will still not live up to expectations, and rather than cut their loses will still put him in CF every day. God forbid they give Florial a real chance.
This ain't gonna be a fun Yankee Summer  
M.S. : 6/13/2021 6:34 am : link

The good news: When autumn arrives, we can turn them off and watch the Giants!
RE: This ain't gonna be a fun Yankee Summer  
Route 9 : 6/13/2021 6:53 am : link
In comment 15285573 M.S. said:
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The good news: When autumn arrives, we can turn them off and watch the Giants!


Giants and Rangers have not been an easy follow lately either. If you're Mets, Islanders, Nets fan... you're likely enjoying yourself.
I have never liked Boone  
section125 : 6/13/2021 6:59 am : link
as a manager. Thought it was a stupid decision to hire a guy without coaching experience at all to be the manager. He makes numerous bad decisions on the field. The lack of fundamentals on display is a clear sign of poor coaching. They have good players and seem to find underutilized guys (Urshela, Voit). He finally appears to have a decent/competent SP staff and it is being squandered. They have the players to compete with anyone.

Yet, here we are...

Guess I'll be watching some non-descript golf tournament today.
I agree with you section125, it was a puzzling at the time. A guy who  
Victor in CT : 6/13/2021 7:30 am : link
never managed to lead a young squad on the rise and expected to win? Strange. But I don't think the mgr is as responsible for lineups and such as they were a generation ago. Cashman and the geek squad have a lot of input nowadays, and I think it's like that throughout MLB.

rnargi, SO SPOT ON about Judge. I saw one of those at bats. just awful. Swinging from his heels at 3 shit pitches. Disgraceful. Complete lack of situational hitting, recognizing the moment.

What about Chapman now? Shits the bed twice in 2 days.
This is just a mediocre team  
Carson53 : 6/13/2021 8:20 am : link
give them some credit for the comeback, but not enough.
Cashman deserves more blame than Booney if you want to play the blame game. He is the one who brought in injury prone starters here,
and thought it would work.
It's been an epic fail, even though Taillon has stayed healthy. He can't seem to auto-correct when things aren't going well on the mound. Yesterday, he is out there naked
with just his fastball, cuz his secondary pitches stink!
Even when Kluber comes back, no guarantee he will make it
thru the season, with what sounds like possible chronic issues? Boone mentioned the wear and tear on his shoulder.
That doesn't include long term deals for Sevy & Hicks as well. Picking up Stanton's contract, cuz he stays so healthy! As I said, epic fail by Cash.
Even though I wouldn't mind a replacement for Boone after
this season.
Let's just say it  
M.S. : 6/13/2021 8:21 am : link

The worst team money can buy.
RE: Let's just say it  
Carson53 : 6/13/2021 8:25 am : link
In comment 15285594 M.S. said:
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The worst team money can buy.
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It really has to do with 'roster construction', and that's on
Cash the GM, more than Boone.
RE: RE: Let's just say it  
Eman11 : 6/13/2021 8:45 am : link
In comment 15285596 Carson53 said:
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In comment 15285594 M.S. said:


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The worst team money can buy.

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It really has to do with 'roster construction', and that's on
Cash the GM, more than Boone.


I agree with you but the on field poor fundamentals are on Boone and his staff.,

I don’t remember a more fundamentally poor Yankee team than this one in 50 years of watching them. Many less “talented” teams weren’t this bad on the base paths, missing cut off men or throwing to the wrong base, no clue of situational hitting, and some really poor game management by the manager. Eg, not walking Segura yesterday is the latest example.

I honestly thought Boone would be a good hire based on being a baseball lifer and the game being in his blood, plus he seemed like he’d be good to me based on his time in the TV booth before his hire.

I know it’s probably nit picking but I was reall taken aback early on by his pressers and his use of so many filler words when talking to the media, The umms, ands, and uhhs. I never expected him to struggle there coming out of the booth and left me wondering if that was a sign he wasn’t exactly quick thinking on his feet and would it end up being a problem on the field as well.
RE: This is just a mediocre team  
section125 : 6/13/2021 8:48 am : link
In comment 15285593 Carson53 said:
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give them some credit for the comeback, but not enough.
Cashman deserves more blame than Booney if you want to play the blame game. He is the one who brought in injury prone starters here,
and thought it would work.
It's been an epic fail, even though Taillon has stayed healthy. He can't seem to auto-correct when things aren't going well on the mound. Yesterday, he is out there naked
with just his fastball, cuz his secondary pitches stink!
Even when Kluber comes back, no guarantee he will make it
thru the season, with what sounds like possible chronic issues? Boone mentioned the wear and tear on his shoulder.
That doesn't include long term deals for Sevy & Hicks as well. Picking up Stanton's contract, cuz he stays so healthy! As I said, epic fail by Cash.
Even though I wouldn't mind a replacement for Boone after
this season.


Oh, no doubt the roster and some of the lineup mess is on Cashman. I agree that the 7 year deal for Hicks was a head scratcher. Sevy was not a bad deal. No one can predict injuries, especially in a guy without a history of injury. Signing him for 4 yrs at $10 mill was a good risk.
Stanton, was a strange one, true. I like Stanton. He is clearly a monster once he gets his timing down, but a 13 year deal or I guess the remaining 10 with NYY is a questionable contract to take on. Not as bad as Ellsbury's contract, but the chance of these guys being anything post 35 yrs old is minimal.

At least the offense is doing better lately  
adamg : 6/13/2021 9:16 am : link
I bet the winning streak starts soon
Sadly, no major correction can occur  
PA Aggie : 6/13/2021 9:25 am : link
Cashman has set up a historically bad set of contracts that will handcuff the organization for years to come. Any trades, deals, or adjustments within the season will do nothing. And even in the off-season (which will start for the Yankees after the 162nd game), besides Gardy retiring, very little else can or will be done.

In the short term, each and every player needs to do a gut check. Yes, that starts with management. Do I think Boone is THE major culprit here? No. The roster construction is what is to blame. And player's personal responsibility. Boone, while part of the failed motivational force, IMO, has only a small responsibility for:

a horrible team batting average
GIDP, the most in the MLB
defensive errors throughout the whole team
base running errors (stuff taught to you when you are 12)
middle of the road batting stats (RISP, HR's, etc)
incredibly bad pitch/swing selection when at bat
pitching which can crap the bed and not get an out

A new mgr. now, is not going to magically turn this team around. In football, a coach has a tremendous impact on the play-by-play success or failure, baseball not so much. It will take each member to address their performances and do what is possible to correct.

The failure of this team currently (besides roster construction), IMO, is a team culture problem. The Yankees have the most storied history in MLB, one of the highest payrolls year after year, a loyal fan base... But have they individually and collectively lost any 'hunger' or 'drive' to compete in today's MLB? A few years ago when they lost so many guys to injury, they rallied against the odds. That is what the Mets are doing right now. Look at Boston, everyone wrote them off to a rebuilding year. Houston, scarred by cheating scandal, has rallied and leads in almost every offensive stat. Tampa Bay, look at their payroll.

Adversity can breed success. At what point is this Yankee team going to realize that they are entering a crisis situation? Unfortunately, for the short term, individual reflection is the only chance to right the ship. For the long term, Cashman is the one who needs to be held accountable.

Thanks for letting me vent.



Relax, I’ve petitoned the league for the team to play  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/13/2021 9:34 am : link
only the Twins and Orioles, and maybe the Rangers, for the rest of the year.

The problem is Cashman, plain and simple. Maybe he can pull off another Chapman for Torres trade when the team flounders down the stretch. Let’s just rip the bandage off. Even if they stumble into the playoffs, you know their offense will just get exposed again.

For years, Cashman has been afraid to make the tough decisions. The safe ones he’s made have all backfired on him.
Boone is here because  
HomerJones45 : 6/13/2021 9:53 am : link
He won’t argue with Cashman and tell him he’s full of shit.

I bet Girardi had a little smile yesterday beating the Yankees in extras by utilizing the bunt , moving the runner over to third when the Yankees bungled the play (which Cashman’s nerds in the basement say doesn’t happen so don’t bunt) and coming home on a single- old school baseball.

Let’s face it: Cashman’s grand plan to build through the minors, shop the bargain basement for Moneyball players and install a manager who wouldn’t natter him about Old School baseball has flopped. He needs to walk the plank and get someone here who can pick through what is there, discard the chaff, get a real manager and get moving in the right direction.
Severino did have a health issue in 2018  
shyster : 6/13/2021 10:06 am : link
in the second half of the season.

He had a sub-2 ERA until July 1 and an ERA well over 5 after that.

At the time of the 2018 post-season, Pedro Martinez, who had been Severino's mentor, said on-air that Severino told him his arm was not right in the second half.

Of course, Severino denied the report.

In that 2018 postseason, Severino got through 4 innings against the A's on 99 pitches, then was bombed for 6 runs, 7 hits, 2 homers in 3 IP in a 16-1 loss to the Sox at the Stadium.

That was his last performance before he signed his "bargain" contract in February 2019. He then came out of his first spring training start with "shoulder discomfort" and didn't pitch until September.

Believe what you want. Quacks like a duck to me.

nyp 10/3/18/pedro reveals - ( New Window )
......  
Route 9 : 6/13/2021 11:28 am : link
Bricktop are you who I think you are? If you are you my apologies for that run in lol I actually thought you were a previous poster that I didn't like. I cast the thoughts in this world.

Kind of like when Sally Field finds out that mrs. Doubtfire is actually Robin Williams. The whole time. The whole time.
RE: ......  
Bricktop : 6/13/2021 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15285665 Route 9 said:
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Bricktop are you who I think you are? If you are you my apologies for that run in lol I actually thought you were a previous poster that I didn't like. I cast the thoughts in this world.

Kind of like when Sally Field finds out that mrs. Doubtfire is actually Robin Williams. The whole time. The whole time.


No problemo, my friend.
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