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NFT: Anyone have a good golf pro for lessons in the NY area?

glowrider : 6/14/2021 10:03 am
Title says it all, looking for a well regarded golf pro that does the swing analysis and uses the KVest, 3D motion capture, video, force plates, etc. to dial down into what is going on.

Have gotten a couple recommendations but $150-220/hr to get in front of a launch monitor with all the bells and whistles so far seems excessive. I’d be willing to drive outside the city.

Any recommendations? The goal is to consistently be shallowing my swing and breaking 90.

Thanks.
What your  
McNally's_Nuts : 6/14/2021 11:41 am : link
looking for isn't excessive at all.

It's 160 just to see a pro for an hour without all that garbage you want.

I have a friend of a friend who teaches out of Fresh Meadows Country Club. I'll see what he charges, but it's like in that area.
Save your cash..check out a bunch of guys on YouTube  
The_Boss : 6/14/2021 11:42 am : link
My “go to” guys:
Chris Ryan Golf
Mr Short Game
Steve Johnson PGA
Me and My Golf
Top Speed Golf
Scratch Golf Academy


All of these guys have shallowing instruction and most everything else.
RE: Save your cash..check out a bunch of guys on YouTube  
The_Boss : 6/14/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15286146 The_Boss said:
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My “go to” guys:
Chris Ryan Golf
Mr Short Game
Steve Johnson PGA
Me and My Golf
Top Speed Golf
Scratch Golf Academy


All of these guys have shallowing instruction and most everything else.


One more:
Eric Cogorno
I also am lucky to be friendly with a few golf pros up here  
The_Boss : 6/14/2021 11:57 am : link
In Westchester. I’m especially close with one guy who works at Trump National. When I’m not playing with him, I send him videos when I get all fouled up or seek out tips to get better in the offseason. This past winter, we worked on flattening my left wrist in the swing and the results have been positive so far this spring.
Check out wisdom in golf  
fireitup77 : 6/14/2021 11:58 am : link
On YouTube. Shawn Clement. He's excellent for someone like yourself.
Jason Peterson  
Racer : 6/14/2021 12:20 pm : link
Works out of Fenway golf club in Scarsdale, NY. Been working with him since 2018. Probably was a 20 when we started, now just below 13 and dropping.

When he asked me during the first session what my goal was, it was to never shoot above 89 again...sounds like your goals are similar.

He's a very talented coach. Things we work on are straightforward and easy to implement. He helped me with everything; putting and how to practice, how to use the bounce in the short game and how to mod the full swing to the 30-60y pitch, and we've progressively improved full swing contact and direction over time.

He takes a little bit from all schools; Wright Balance, BioSwing dynamics, Aimpoint, TPI, etc.

His jpgolfservices address is a gmail account. Tell him his student with the green Mustang recommended you.

Good luck.



Kirk Oguri  
EliIsEliteX2 : 6/14/2021 12:38 pm : link
He works out of Pete's Golf in Mineola. Best in the business. He's got a long waiting list so you might not get an appointment with him for a month or so but worth the wait.
Appreciate the insight and correction of my price expectations  
glowrider : 6/14/2021 2:30 pm : link
And appreciate the suggestions. I am subscribed to all the YouTube guys mentioned and have found some great suggestions. I will be looking into these folks.
I dont know if you guys have seen these two YouTube channels  
glowrider : 6/14/2021 3:29 pm : link
But I really like the guys at “Athletic Motion Golf.” It’s a really stunning and fascinating way to see the swing broken down. Seeing the side by side “Gears 3d” views comparing pro vs am makes it really easy to see the correct positions, sequence, and movements for success compared to what some may be more familiar with. They’ve got some really intuitive drills and seem to do a phenomenal job of diagnosing and re-setting the body for a better swing. They’re $500 an hour and down in Georgia, oof, but the videos are great.

Also, although he’s a bit of a creepy, handsy, close talking instructor who clearly makes his students on video uncomfortable, Mike Malaska brings a lot of physio into the fold and he is very clear in demonstration and explaining the thought behind things. I got one of my best putting tips from that guy regarding aligning your eyes with the putting line. I linked it here - it’s the one thing I can get mostly right.
Mike Malaska putting alignment - ( New Window )
Jason Carbone and Matt Barr  
NYGgolfer : 6/15/2021 9:12 am : link
at Baltrusrol. Both are great.
If you are looking for more online recommendations  
Mike in NJ : 6/15/2021 9:48 am : link
Monte Scheinblum and Jake Hutt have really good content on Instagram.

I have taken lessons in person and online with Monte, he is based in Cali but travels to host clinics, and made a lot of progress.

I am going to see Paul Kaster beginning of July, he has a great reputation as well, and is based in Monmouth County NJ. Depending on where in NY you are it may be worth the trip and his pricing falls within your price range. He is on Instagram as well incase you want to check out the technology he uses during his lessons.
RE: I dont know if you guys have seen these two YouTube channels  
Crispino : 6/15/2021 11:53 am : link
In comment 15286266 glowrider said:
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But I really like the guys at “Athletic Motion Golf.” It’s a really stunning and fascinating way to see the swing broken down. Seeing the side by side “Gears 3d” views comparing pro vs am makes it really easy to see the correct positions, sequence, and movements for success compared to what some may be more familiar with. They’ve got some really intuitive drills and seem to do a phenomenal job of diagnosing and re-setting the body for a better swing. They’re $500 an hour and down in Georgia, oof, but the videos are great.

Also, although he’s a bit of a creepy, handsy, close talking instructor who clearly makes his students on video uncomfortable, Mike Malaska brings a lot of physio into the fold and he is very clear in demonstration and explaining the thought behind things. I got one of my best putting tips from that guy regarding aligning your eyes with the putting line. I linked it here - it’s the one thing I can get mostly right. Mike Malaska putting alignment - ( New Window )


Second Mike Malaska’s putting video. Best thing to ever happen to my putting technique.
Joe Ingoglia Golf Instruction  
Mike in NY : 6/15/2021 1:43 pm : link
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Anyone heard of Kevin Sprecher? I’ve seen some of his videos  
glowrider : 6/15/2021 7:01 pm : link
He’s the pro at Sleepy Hollow, does all the data/video, and the bill may sting a bit less with on-course lessons at a course on my must-play list (and I don’t know any members).

Another pair of names I was given were James Hong at Harbor Links and John Jordan at Bethpage (I think he’s also the coach of the women’s golf team at Hofstra, which doesnt sound like a terrible life).

Appreciate the suggestions gents. They all seem to have a social media presence so I’m checking out what’s available.
RE: RE: I dont know if you guys have seen these two YouTube channels  
glowrider : 6/15/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15286695 Crispino said:
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In comment 15286266 glowrider said:


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But I really like the guys at “Athletic Motion Golf.” It’s a really stunning and fascinating way to see the swing broken down. Seeing the side by side “Gears 3d” views comparing pro vs am makes it really easy to see the correct positions, sequence, and movements for success compared to what some may be more familiar with. They’ve got some really intuitive drills and seem to do a phenomenal job of diagnosing and re-setting the body for a better swing. They’re $500 an hour and down in Georgia, oof, but the videos are great.

Also, although he’s a bit of a creepy, handsy, close talking instructor who clearly makes his students on video uncomfortable, Mike Malaska brings a lot of physio into the fold and he is very clear in demonstration and explaining the thought behind things. I got one of my best putting tips from that guy regarding aligning your eyes with the putting line. I linked it here - it’s the one thing I can get mostly right. Mike Malaska putting alignment - ( New Window )



Second Mike Malaska’s putting video. Best thing to ever happen to my putting technique.


Single most effective golf tip I’ve ever gotten, and not something you need to drill once you get it sorted out.
Golf videos are fine for fixing specific flaws in your game  
Marty in Albany : 6/16/2021 9:35 am : link
or learning basic techniques. However, a pro can evaluate your entire game, tell you what to stop doing, and give you specifics on what you need to do in order to get better.

Analogy:
Golf Videos: grammar, spelling, and penmanship
Golf Pro: How to write a report for school or business.
Stay away from all the...  
Stan in LA : 6/16/2021 2:40 pm : link
"...swing analysis and uses the KVest, 3D motion capture, video, force plates, etc."

It's junk. the golf swing is simple, don't make it to be rocket science. If you knew the teaching pros that use that stuff then laugh behind your back for listening to it you'd be amazed.
RE: Golf videos are fine for fixing specific flaws in your game  
glowrider : 6/16/2021 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15287353 Marty in Albany said:
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or learning basic techniques. However, a pro can evaluate your entire game, tell you what to stop doing, and give you specifics on what you need to do in order to get better.

Analogy:
Golf Videos: grammar, spelling, and penmanship
Golf Pro: How to write a report for school or business.


With you on this. No contest working with a professional is a completely different experience, and that’s what I want. It’s not close and while video may be good for concepts, specific issues (ex. Malaska’s putting exercise), or general knowledge, there’s a big difference being directed in person vs. YT.

And, as for “all the crap” - Besides it being incredibly useful insight for those of us inclined to make use of such information, I don’t care if the pro laughs or cries as long as I get what I want.
Where are you located?  
jestersdead : 6/17/2021 12:30 am : link
I’ve been going to a guy in the Nanuet area since January. I like the progress we have made, my swing is becoming more consistent, got fitted into new irons as well. He doesn’t use video, but he watches your movement and then compares it to the trackman numbers and makes adjustments from there. I’m not where I want to be yet, but that has more do with other commitments and not practicing as much as I’d like to

Check out Novo Golf, they are ranked in the top 50 nationwide for fittings/instruction. Ask for Phil
RE: Where are you located?  
glowrider : 6/18/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15288304 jestersdead said:
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I’ve been going to a guy in the Nanuet area since January. I like the progress we have made, my swing is becoming more consistent, got fitted into new irons as well. He doesn’t use video, but he watches your movement and then compares it to the trackman numbers and makes adjustments from there. I’m not where I want to be yet, but that has more do with other commitments and not practicing as much as I’d like to

Check out Novo Golf, they are ranked in the top 50 nationwide for fittings/instruction. Ask for Phil


Manhattan. I generally play up in the Hudson River Valley. More beautiful and varied terrain and stunning views. Nanuet isn’t so far off course, and you get to fill up in Jersey. Definitely worth checking out.

Not resurrecting an old thread but I played a round with the Kirkland wedges this week and they were really fun to play with, hot off the face compared to my ancient sticks, but a great improvement from my CG10s. That 60* lob wedge was just the ticket to the vertically difficult green side bunkers. Never had I ever before been able to get enough height quickly enough to get out of the trap in one shot. I did so for the first time and it was exhilarating.

Whoever was negging on the 60* for mid-high handicapper was wrong. I’d definitely recommend them.
A 60 degree or lob wedge  
NYGgolfer : 6/18/2021 10:47 am : link
that you can get comfortable with is a major help to lower scores. I use my all around the green for many different types of shots. So many days when the longer swing is out of whack, the wedge game keeps me in the hole.

Absolutely fine for middle-high handicapper.
Relying on my Arccos data for previous rounds at this course  
glowrider : 6/18/2021 11:25 am : link
I must have saved somewhere between 2-5 strokes using the new wedges, and particularly the 60* instead of an open-56* as I had been doing for years in these particular bunkers. The undulations of the course create some really interesting approaches, and most of the greens are guarded and elevate “gradually then suddenly.” I’ve had more bunker shots go backwards than up and over in the sands of hell. To see an idea turn to result is very rewarding.
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