With all the recent news surrounding UFO sightings (on radar by military aircraft, ships, pilot visuals) not to mention statements by high level government officials around the world, as well as astronauts, I cannot believe the relative lack of attention this is getting in the media. The implications of these events are potentially world changing.
Needless to say, I am fascinated and exited about the possibilities. So what are these vehicles? My list of possibilities are the following; would love to hear anyone else's ideas on this.....
(1) Hoax perpetrated on government/military
(2) Hoax perpetrated by U.S. Govt.
(3) U.S. technology.
(4) Foreign Govt. technology.
(5) Private Industry technology.
(6) Alien technology.
What else could it be?
No one is seeing all UFO sightings and all pictures of UFO looking things are legitimate unidentified craft that then leads to capabilities beyond next generation tech that we don’t have. But some do.
And as I pointed out earlier if you look at the actual data the higher the quality of THOSE events in these studies that the government has conducted, the more likelihood they are to be unidentified.
UFOs exist.
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Angry Molesting Tree. Holy shit.
The point is making the leap that unidentified objects are otherworldly.
Which is exactly why many wonder why you keep posting photos.
Angry Molesting Tree. Holy shit.
No one is seeing all UFO sightings and all pictures of UFO looking things are legitimate unidentified craft that then leads to capabilities beyond next generation tech that we don’t have. But some do.
And as I pointed out earlier if you look at the actual data the higher the quality of THOSE events in these studies that the government has conducted, the more likelihood they are to be unidentified.
UFOs exist.
Given capability (and need) to examine each instance in a more efficient and effective manner, all would have a logical and natural explanations.
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Angry Molesting Tree. Holy shit.
The burden of proof is on you to disprove Angry Molesting Trees. It only takes one to show they exist.
All bark, no bite.
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The point is making the leap that unidentified objects are otherworldly.
Which is exactly why many wonder why you keep posting photos.
OF COURSE that's the ultimate leap that no one here could possibly take from a photograph alone. Which is precisely why I've stated for the record it surprises me that people could be convinced from a photo.
Context matters.
Now, that military professionals have said these phenomena have been captured on multiple radar, video, flir, and seen by multiple eye witnesses to maneuver with capabilities beyond anything we have in our arsenal... that is significant context.
But how can we believe those folks. How can we believe the government which has come out and ADMITTED the media shown and classification of the material is authentic and remains UNKNOWN. How can we possibly rest assured that UFOs do exist with all that out there.
It's probably nothing. Prolly a bird, balloon, or China with a transmedium drone that can operate 24/7 in our oceans and airspace with instantaneous acceleration, cloaking capabilities, and advance knowledge of a classified drill plan. All is fine.
I prefer star fox or after burner myself.
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Are misidentified and have completely logical and natural explanations. It doesn’t explain it all though. In fact the press releases about official studies miss characterize the actual conclusions to make it seem like it’s less of an issue than it actually is.
No one is seeing all UFO sightings and all pictures of UFO looking things are legitimate unidentified craft that then leads to capabilities beyond next generation tech that we don’t have. But some do.
And as I pointed out earlier if you look at the actual data the higher the quality of THOSE events in these studies that the government has conducted, the more likelihood they are to be unidentified.
UFOs exist.
Given capability (and need) to examine each instance in a more efficient and effective manner, all would have a logical and natural explanations.
All...
Are you saying that UFOs are then a natural part of life?
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via Richard Dolan, UFO Historian.
US propulsion development activities stay within US-designated ranges. UAP sightings are NOT attributable to US advanced propulsion development projects.
via Richard Dolan, UFO Historian.
US propulsion development activities stay within US-designated ranges. UAP sightings are NOT attributable to US advanced propulsion development projects.
How many years of study are required to become a licensed "UFO Historian"? I'm 41. Is it too late for me?
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Of course they have better video, but there is zero chance they release it. It's a security issue. The Pentagon went apeshit when the last guy in the white house released some hi def video of our capabilities. I don't trust Lou Elizonda at all, he seems like some of these meatheads I served with. He can't even honestly answer the why now question?
Also - public pressure to release everything they have has mounted. This is no longer a fringe topic, it’s out in the open and there’s been a lot of momentum in recent years.
I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but there are all these new civilian space companies that are launching, could have something to do with it too.
He did elaborate to say that the data you get from such activities - it’s very subjective, and so in terms of usable data, it’s often not enough, that you need other data to complete the picture. Remote viewing may not be enough to substantiate a claim to make a decision. And that’s totally fair.
I do think more serious work needs to be done on human intuition though because the studies that I’ve heard about are extremely interesting
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via Richard Dolan, UFO Historian.
US propulsion development activities stay within US-designated ranges. UAP sightings are NOT attributable to US advanced propulsion development projects.
How many years of study are required to become a licensed "UFO Historian"? I'm 41. Is it too late for me?
It’s never too late for now
Also - public pressure to release everything they have has mounted. This is no longer a fringe topic, it’s out in the open and there’s been a lot of momentum in recent years.
I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but there are all these new civilian space companies that are launching, could have something to do with it too.
What public pressure? There is very little public pressure to release this stuff.
Why now is very simple. The military-industrial complex has gotten massive in the last twenty years and the wars are drawing down. Something needs to feed the beast and the military is looking for new things to replace the war funding. The military is a political machine. They recognized a possible opportunity and are taking it.
Releasing it because of space companies in their infancy? What's to gain for the military. I seriously question your logic trains. The motives don't make any sense.
Just because someone works for an entity for a long period of time doesn’t mean that they are completely loyal to them no matter the case. In Lue’s case it appears he’s blowing the whistle because he’s sick and tired of the same ol same ol.
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December 2017 changed everything. He wouldn’t want to place undue attention on the record on how he got the 3 videos released in the first place.
Also - public pressure to release everything they have has mounted. This is no longer a fringe topic, it’s out in the open and there’s been a lot of momentum in recent years.
I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but there are all these new civilian space companies that are launching, could have something to do with it too.
What public pressure? There is very little public pressure to release this stuff.
Why now is very simple. The military-industrial complex has gotten massive in the last twenty years and the wars are drawing down. Something needs to feed the beast and the military is looking for new things to replace the war funding. The military is a political machine. They recognized a possible opportunity and are taking it.
Releasing it because of space companies in their infancy? What's to gain for the military. I seriously question your logic trains. The motives don't make any sense.
There’s tremendous public pressure, the UFO article traffic on the New York Times are the highest in the publications history. Same with 60 minutes. This is not a fringe topic any longer. Congressional leaders are coming out of the woodwork now to go on record about this because they know their constituents care about it. This has come up in presidential debates a serious point of questioning for 20 years.
The momentum is there. People that know I’m interested in this topic are coming up to me and texting me all over the place about it. It’s reached an unprecedented pitch
Just because someone works for an entity for a long period of time doesn’t mean that they are completely loyal to them no matter the case. In Lue’s case it appears he’s blowing the whistle because he’s sick and tired of the same ol same ol.
What? I didn’t say any of that about Elizindo.
And yes I do assume it’s all about money, it’s always about money and funding for this he MIC is about to get contracted. They are going to explore all avenues to make sure it’s as minimal as possible.
If infinity is the order of being, then anything can exist/happen an infinite number of times.
So the larger question becomes, is it really scripted like that? Do you believe in a massive coordinated effort to defraud the public trust to ensure their projects are always lined?
It's a conspiracy one way or another. Pick your poison.
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So the larger question becomes, is it really scripted like that? Do you believe in a massive coordinated effort to defraud the public trust to ensure their projects are always lined?
It's a conspiracy one way or another. Pick your poison.
What is this massive coordinated effort to defraud the public? Scripted like what? Just because one guy is a DOD insider and is privy to the information doesn't mean everyone knows. He could also just be putting pieces together. It's not that difficult. I mean I'm not a DoD insider and i'ts blindingly obvious to me.
Yeh the military (and private contractors) is always going to do its best politically to make sure its pockets are lined. Isn't that just common knowledge at this point? The next real priority for the Pentagon is cyberwarfare, but that just doesn't like the pockets like traditional manufacturing and projects do.
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And if presidential candidates are debating on this topic, it should only help get the undecided off the fence...
No, it’s the facts. I thought I would add that concept to a thread sorely lacking it...
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There's a canadian ufologist that for years has been on this predictive track going back decades on who the next target would be to drum up military funding. After the wars in the Middle East he predicted Aliens. Apparently he was told this by an DoD insider.
So the larger question becomes, is it really scripted like that? Do you believe in a massive coordinated effort to defraud the public trust to ensure their projects are always lined?
It's a conspiracy one way or another. Pick your poison.
What is this massive coordinated effort to defraud the public? Scripted like what? Just because one guy is a DOD insider and is privy to the information doesn't mean everyone knows. He could also just be putting pieces together. It's not that difficult. I mean I'm not a DoD insider and i'ts blindingly obvious to me.
Yeh the military (and private contractors) is always going to do its best politically to make sure its pockets are lined. Isn't that just common knowledge at this point? The next real priority for the Pentagon is cyberwarfare, but that just doesn't like the pockets like traditional manufacturing and projects do.
Using known disinformation tactics to gain political advantage and curry favor with those with funding mechanisms. Seems to me that if you lie to get money - that’s fraud. Waste fraud and abuse is a thing with state and federal dollars
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"Everyone has a cell phone, why don't we have more video of uaps?" This is about the quality I'd expect, and while I find it personally interesting, is this really moving the needle for the people that make that argument? Then why make that argument? Most people aren't flying airplanes.
Good camera work of superimposing lite-brite film into the dark sky.
Almost looks like fireworks which is appropriate for today.
Happy 4th...
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Your use of the word "fact" continues to shit on the meaning of the word "fact".
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