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NFT: Mets Minors 6/16/2021-Ginn for the win-My player of the day

DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 8:20 am
Syracuse
McNeil 1-4 2 k's (just missed a granny)
Blankenhorn 1-4, 2 BB
Lee 0-4, BB, SB, 3 k's
Almora 1-3, BB
Nogosek....1.1 innings 6 hits 7 runs 1 walk 1 k (arguably the worst line from any Mets P this season, yikes)


Bing
Cortes 2-4, BB (OPS up to .911)
Mangum 0-4, 2 k's
Vientos 2-4, BB, K (He's struggled but over his last 5 games he's reached base 8 times)


BK
Mauricio 1-4
Baty 1-4, 3 k's
Alvarez 1-4, K
Lasko 6 innings 3 hits 1 run 0 walks 4 k's

St. Lucie
Ramirez 1-4, HR, BB, K (First professional HR)
Suozzi 2-5
Palmer 1-5, K
Ginn 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 5 k's (To me, easily the player of the day in the system)
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i'm good with any of those  
Eric on Li : 6/16/2021 5:13 pm : link
and Cobb too. Honestly I have a pretty good amount of confidence in the new look FO, they have seemed to do a decent job adding players who fit well. Pillar, Villar, Walker, Loup all turned out to be good additions. SRF too. Even Luchessi has had his moments.

the 1 thing I'd really like to see is a P who can pitch out of the BP or the rotation. I think that would be a big added bonus to whoever they get.
Gray  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:15 pm : link
was bad last season (when he pitched) due to his shoulder and now it's his elbow, he's no longer missing bats (last 102 innings 72 k's 6.4 K/9). Yeah, they only need back-end help but he needs to prove he can even provide that.
Tyler  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:19 pm : link
Anderson is another one but I'm not particularly high on him, fine at the right price.
RE: I'd bet against Dom ever hitting 40 homers  
allstarjim : 6/16/2021 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15287841 Eric on Li said:
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and honestly even in a career year I don't think he will ever get close. I'm not even sure I'd bet on him going over 30 more than once or twice. Would love to be wrong but even if you prorate out his amazing 50 games last year, you get 30 homers on the nose.

I think he's a 20-30 homer player, .280 BA, .350 OBP, .500 SLG. Solid mid .800's OPS'er with some defensive value.


'19 and '20 he hit homeruns at almost exactly the same rate. 21 homeruns in a total of 397 plate appearances. That's a nice sample over two seasons...prorated out to 650 plate appearances you get 35 homeruns. I don't think he's a 40 homerun guy either, though I think he has an outside chance. And 650 plate appearances shouldn't be too difficult for him if he is a regular in at least 150 games. At least he should get very close to that number.

What may hurt him is late inning substitutions, but at some point in his career he could be someone's everyday first baseman, where that's not a factor (would likely need to be somewhere else). This year he won't get close because of his prolonged cold streaks and lengthy homerun drought. But I think him hitting a homer around once every 18.5 ABs like he was doing for the last two seasons is more of who he is as a hitter than what we've seen this year.
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DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:21 pm : link
Was Bregman more reliant on the cheating than other Astros? Correa/Gurriel/Altuve have been as good as ever this season.
My point on Dom  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2021 5:24 pm : link
is I don't care if he hits 40 HR's.

On this Mets team with Alonso, Lindor, JD, Conforto, etc. (when healthy) they don't need a 40 HR guy.

If Dom is a doubles hitter with "good enough" power and OPSs .840 and plays good D whether in LF or at 1B and doesn't strike out a lot - I don't care about his HR power.

Even if he's not a prototypical 1B (like Alonso) he doesn't play 1B exclusively - and he's also probably not a prototypical corner OF and I don't care about that either.
RE: My point on Dom  
Eric on Li : 6/16/2021 5:34 pm : link
In comment 15287891 pjcas18 said:
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is I don't care if he hits 40 HR's.

On this Mets team with Alonso, Lindor, JD, Conforto, etc. (when healthy) they don't need a 40 HR guy.

If Dom is a doubles hitter with "good enough" power and OPSs .840 and plays good D whether in LF or at 1B and doesn't strike out a lot - I don't care about his HR power.

Even if he's not a prototypical 1B (like Alonso) he doesn't play 1B exclusively - and he's also probably not a prototypical corner OF and I don't care about that either.


Not to get on a tangent but since Alonso's defense has been so good and with Dom taking to LF (and JDD/McNeil also versatile options) I'd have a hard time justifying a big amount of $ to Conforto unless he comes back and goes beast mode. I'd happily take him on the QO or a reasonable extension but seems like COF is not the best use of resource.

I believe they told McNeil to play OF during his rehab stint - which I assume is because they are happy with how Guillorme/Villar have been playing on the IF and may consider shifting him around at the end of games if they take Dom out. I can't remember but I believe McNeil said 1 of the positions he plays is easier on his legs but I don't remember if it was 2b or LF.
Eric  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:41 pm : link
Rojas went out of his way that McNeil will see the majority of his time at his normal position (2b).
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DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:41 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
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Jun 15
Jeff McNeil will continue his rehab tonight at Triple-A Syracuse, following one game at Class A Brooklyn.

Luis Rojas said today that McNeil (strained left hamstring) could play a game in left field while on assignment, though he will return to his primary position of 2B in NY.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:42 pm : link
to me like they want McNeil fresh enough in the OF that it can be done, not that they have any plans for him to see significant time out there.
RE: Sounds  
Eric on Li : 6/16/2021 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15287899 DanMetroMan said:
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to me like they want McNeil fresh enough in the OF that it can be done, not that they have any plans for him to see significant time out there.


the 2 most obvious ways I could see him making sense out there are:

1. more injuries (or setbacks)
2. if they want to get Guillorme in at 2b and Dom out late in games

I'm generally a fan of letting players stick to 1 position but McNeil wasn't playing a very good 2b this year and he has played very well in LF the last few years, so this seems like a good idea. This year of all years it seems like a good idea to be prepared for anything.
Obviously  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:55 pm : link
McKinney isn't THIS good but he looks like a legit MLB player, really expect them to send Almora to AAA once his rehab is up. I'd even dislike DFAing Williams (he's looked decent) but it will get tricky eventually.
Unless  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 5:56 pm : link
I missed it, no update on Nimmo since his BP on the 14th, pain-free? Scheduled to do it again? Rehab coming soon? Also nothing on Davis?
RE: Obviously  
JB_in_DC : 6/16/2021 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15287908 DanMetroMan said:
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McKinney isn't THIS good but he looks like a legit MLB player, really expect them to send Almora to AAA once his rehab is up. I'd even dislike DFAing Williams (he's looked decent) but it will get tricky eventually.


McKinney's BABIP is only .265 so he's been a bit unlucky so far, which bodes well for him being able to keep it up. Really nice find given the state of Mets OFs in the upper minors.
RE: RE: Obviously  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15287922 JB_in_DC said:
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McKinney isn't THIS good but he looks like a legit MLB player, really expect them to send Almora to AAA once his rehab is up. I'd even dislike DFAing Williams (he's looked decent) but it will get tricky eventually.



McKinney's BABIP is only .265 so he's been a bit unlucky so far, which bodes well for him being able to keep it up. Really nice find given the state of Mets OFs in the upper minors.


I wasn’t looking to knock McKinney but I’m pretty confident he’s not a 1.005 OPS player. That would be good for 5th in the entire league.
McKinney  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 6:51 pm : link
wRC+ is 173, Ronald Acuna's is 164, Tatis 162. So yeah, he's not this good and he will come back down to earth but he's been a nice find and he's clearly better than Maybin or Almora and it would be silly to lose him for Almora (who has an option).
RE: RE: Obviously  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15287922 JB_in_DC said:
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McKinney isn't THIS good but he looks like a legit MLB player, really expect them to send Almora to AAA once his rehab is up. I'd even dislike DFAing Williams (he's looked decent) but it will get tricky eventually.



McKinney's BABIP is only .265 so he's been a bit unlucky so far, which bodes well for him being able to keep it up. Really nice find given the state of Mets OFs in the upper minors.


By the way his BABIP is .313 with the Mets and his ISO (.380) would be 40 points higher than Babe Ruth's career mark lol
Szapucki  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:03 pm : link
with McNeil, Conforto, Almora, Lee, Mazeika, Calixte (31 big league games), Tovar (46) Blankenhorn (8) and Drew Jackson (3) behind him. Has to be the most MLB games played in one AAA lineup in quite a while.
RE: Szapucki  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2021 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15287948 DanMetroMan said:
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with McNeil, Conforto, Almora, Lee, Mazeika, Calixte (31 big league games), Tovar (46) Blankenhorn (8) and Drew Jackson (3) behind him. Has to be the most MLB games played in one AAA lineup in quite a while.


AAA (minor league baseball in general) is awesome for that for fans especially.

I went to a Pawtucket Red Sox game when Jon Lester was making a start recovering from cancer, Jacoby Ellsbury and Jed Lowrie were still prospects there - just kind of cool to see it. I also saw Manny make a rehab appearance in Pawtucket.

RE: RE: RE: Obviously  
JB_in_DC : 6/16/2021 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15287941 DanMetroMan said:
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McKinney isn't THIS good but he looks like a legit MLB player, really expect them to send Almora to AAA once his rehab is up. I'd even dislike DFAing Williams (he's looked decent) but it will get tricky eventually.



McKinney's BABIP is only .265 so he's been a bit unlucky so far, which bodes well for him being able to keep it up. Really nice find given the state of Mets OFs in the upper minors.



By the way his BABIP is .313 with the Mets and his ISO (.380) would be 40 points higher than Babe Ruth's career mark lol


Was looking at his full season stats - with the 100 PAs as Brewer - 104 wRC+. Will be interesting to see how he goes. Obviously no real expectation that he can be 115+, but don't need him to be.
RE: RE: Szapucki  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15287955 pjcas18 said:
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with McNeil, Conforto, Almora, Lee, Mazeika, Calixte (31 big league games), Tovar (46) Blankenhorn (8) and Drew Jackson (3) behind him. Has to be the most MLB games played in one AAA lineup in quite a while.



AAA (minor league baseball in general) is awesome for that for fans especially.

I went to a Pawtucket Red Sox game when Jon Lester was making a start recovering from cancer, Jacoby Ellsbury and Jed Lowrie were still prospects there - just kind of cool to see it. I also saw Manny make a rehab appearance in Pawtucket.


Yeah, if you get lucky you can see some fun lineups. This one is especially fun given you have 2 "big name" regulars, 2 "top" prospects in the system (Szapucki/Lee), a known player (Almora) and guys like Tovar who all Mets fans know. I was actually surprised Tovar only appeared in 46 big league games. Felt like more...
Many years ago  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2021 7:21 pm : link
- maybe 2001 - my wife said she wanted to check out Portland, ME.

So, I found a day when the Binghamton Mets were playing the Portland sea dogs (formerly a Marlins farm team) and suggested it and it worked.

I wound up dragging her to a double header - lol - it was awesome. $6 for the good seats, lol.

the first game Josh Beckett shutout the Mets and had like 15 k's. I thought he was going to the HOF. Such a good young pitcher. Later that summer he no-hit Binghamton - in Bing.

RE: Many years ago  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15287975 pjcas18 said:
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- maybe 2001 - my wife said she wanted to check out Portland, ME.

So, I found a day when the Binghamton Mets were playing the Portland sea dogs (formerly a Marlins farm team) and suggested it and it worked.

I wound up dragging her to a double header - lol - it was awesome. $6 for the good seats, lol.

the first game Josh Beckett shutout the Mets and had like 15 k's. I thought he was going to the HOF. Such a good young pitcher. Later that summer he no-hit Binghamton - in Bing.


Those are always fun. I saw post-injury Brien Taylor which was sad but kinda cool to see him anyway, Javy Vazquez also pitched in that game and he had a nice career.
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