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NFT: Cubs at Mets Game 3. deGrom

ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 5:33 pm
Mets Lineup

Jonathan Villar – 3B
Francisco Lindor – SS
Dominic Smith – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Billy McKinney – RF
Kevin Pillar – CF
Luis Guillorme – 2B
Tomas Nido – C
Jacob deGrom – RHP

Cubs Lineup

Joc Pederson – LF
Anthony Rizzo – 1B
Javier Baez – SS
Ian Happ – CF
Patrick Wisdom – 3B
Rafael Ortega – RF
Eric Sogard – 2B
Jose Lobaton – C
Robert Stock – RHP

deGrominator going tonight! We will all hold our breath. No restrictions per Rojas. Conforto starts rehab assignment tonight. Carrasco has resumed throwing. McNeil and Almora could be activated any day now. Mets keep rolling. LFGM!
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Z Giants and Mets are both rolling!  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 5:59 pm : link
Let’s keep the mojo going!

Usual suspects with Nido in for McCannon (who should be rechristened’Mechanic’ for all the time he spends fooling around with his junk before an AB!)
Conforto, McNeil, and Almora are givens...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 6:33 pm : link
But out of the question mark guys just give me back Nimmo and Carrasco at some point and this team will be unstoppable.
RE: Conforto, McNeil, and Almora are givens...  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15287929 ZGiants98 said:
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But out of the question mark guys just give me back Nimmo and Carrasco at some point and this team will be unstoppable.


It’d be pretty damn deep. Think we will really need Thor this year tho. Just such a big innings jump for everyone especially Walker. Ideal season to put the hammer down early and use a six man rotation in the dog days.

Early runaways in their division are going to be better positioned this year. I’m gonna take a vacation in a couple of weeks and I’m going to look at SP usage in 95 after the strike, see how teams handled it. Just for a fun project.
I do think Walker could get capped but  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 6:51 pm : link
You really only need three starting pitchers in the postseason. deGrom and Stroman are givens. Add Carrasco to that and we'll be looking pretty good.

That said, I sure as hell would like Syndergaard back for the postseason also!
Let me know what you find  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 6:52 pm : link
Would love to hear it...
RE: Conforto, McNeil, and Almora are givens...  
SJGiant : 6/16/2021 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15287929 ZGiants98 said:
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But out of the question mark guys just give me back Nimmo and Carrasco at some point and this team will be unstoppable.


I do not think Almora is a given to be recalled onto the major league roster. If you are saying he is a given to recover soon, fine.
Mets going to full capacity  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 6:54 pm : link
Starting June 21.

Masks asked to be worn for non vaccinated people, but Mets will not check or enforce.

Honor system.
RE: RE: Conforto, McNeil, and Almora are givens...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 6:56 pm : link
In comment 15287940 SJGiant said:
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In comment 15287929 ZGiants98 said:


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But out of the question mark guys just give me back Nimmo and Carrasco at some point and this team will be unstoppable.



I do not think Almora is a given to be recalled onto the major league roster. If you are saying he is a given to recover soon, fine.


He is. Mason Williams is not better than Almora. Almora is two years younger and had a sustained run of decent offense 2016-2018 coupled with elite CF defense. I see almost no reason why Williams would be kept at Almora's expense. That said, if we ever get the full OF back including Nimmo, I do see Almora being demoted to AAA to keep McKinney. But we are a long way from that. Almora should be back for Williams any day now.
RE: RE: RE: Conforto, McNeil, and Almora are givens...  
CGiants07 : 6/16/2021 7:01 pm : link
In comment 15287945 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 15287940 SJGiant said:


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In comment 15287929 ZGiants98 said:


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But out of the question mark guys just give me back Nimmo and Carrasco at some point and this team will be unstoppable.



I do not think Almora is a given to be recalled onto the major league roster. If you are saying he is a given to recover soon, fine.



He is. Mason Williams is not better than Almora. Almora is two years younger and had a sustained run of decent offense 2016-2018 coupled with elite CF defense. I see almost no reason why Williams would be kept at Almora's expense. That said, if we ever get the full OF back including Nimmo, I do see Almora being demoted to AAA to keep McKinney. But we are a long way from that. Almora should be back for Williams any day now.

does williams have an option remaining?
No Williams does not have an option  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:05 pm : link
But he's also not that good and unlikely to get claimed. But Drury has an option. Almora does too. Eventually if the Mets are healthy the bench should be

McKinney, Pillar, Davis, LG, and Nido

With Almora, Drury, Maybin, Mazeika etc in AAA as depth.

I think we will be setup just fine.
RE: No Williams does not have an option  
CGiants07 : 6/16/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15287950 ZGiants98 said:
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But he's also not that good and unlikely to get claimed. But Drury has an option. Almora does too. Eventually if the Mets are healthy the bench should be

McKinney, Pillar, Davis, LG, and Nido

With Almora, Drury, Maybin, Mazeika etc in AAA as depth.

I think we will be setup just fine.

these issues usually work itself out
deGrom throwing 101  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:15 pm : link
effortlessly
RE: No Williams does not have an option  
81_Great_Dane : 6/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15287950 ZGiants98 said:
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But he's also not that good and unlikely to get claimed. But Drury has an option. Almora does too. Eventually if the Mets are healthy the bench should be

McKinney, Pillar, Davis, LG, and Nido

With Almora, Drury, Maybin, Mazeika etc in AAA as depth.

I think we will be setup just fine.


If I'm following your thinking, you have Villar as starting 3B and McNeil as starting 2B, with Smith, Nimmo and Conforto starting in the OF. Is that correct?

I could see this arrangement:
Catchers: McCann, Nido
Infielders: Alonso, McNeil, Villar, Lindor, Davis, Guillorme
Outfielders: Smith, Nimmo, Conforto, McKinney, Pillar

That's a helluva roster if everyone's healthy.

Shocking I know, but Jake has  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
good stuff tonight,
Cedric  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:17 pm : link
Mullins has become a star. I'm adopting the Orioles as my second team complete with awful owner (Wilpons not Cohen).
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/16/2021 7:17 pm : link
Going to tomorrow's game. Bummed I'm missing deGrom...he's UFB. ?-and I don't mean to miller-is he HOF bound @ this rate?
RE: ...  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15287970 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Going to tomorrow's game. Bummed I'm missing deGrom...he's UFB. ?-and I don't mean to miller-is he HOF bound @ this rate?


Really tough for anybody to answer this question without knowing what happens from here on out. If he retired tomorrow then no he likely doesn't make it. If he wins another CY this season and has a normal decline then he's likely in, if he has 3-4 more seasons of "ace" level pitching he's in. His trajectory is HOF. Unlike say Trout, he's not a HOF without more data.
RE: RE: No Williams does not have an option  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15287967 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 15287950 ZGiants98 said:


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But he's also not that good and unlikely to get claimed. But Drury has an option. Almora does too. Eventually if the Mets are healthy the bench should be

McKinney, Pillar, Davis, LG, and Nido

With Almora, Drury, Maybin, Mazeika etc in AAA as depth.

I think we will be setup just fine.



If I'm following your thinking, you have Villar as starting 3B and McNeil as starting 2B, with Smith, Nimmo and Conforto starting in the OF. Is that correct?

I could see this arrangement:
Catchers: McCann, Nido
Infielders: Alonso, McNeil, Villar, Lindor, Davis, Guillorme
Outfielders: Smith, Nimmo, Conforto, McKinney, Pillar

That's a helluva roster if everyone's healthy.


Yes assuming everyone's healthy which might never happen. lol. We'll see!
Of course...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:22 pm : link
Villar hit in the head... Ugh...
Ouch cauliflower ear  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:22 pm : link
Coming for Villar. That sucks. Hope he’s ok.
Rojas  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:23 pm : link
again mentioned before the game that McNeil is the starting 2b . He's yet to see a start in the OF as they suggested they might do so it's pretty clear with everybody healthy Dom/Nimmo/Conforto are the starting OF. The guy who is going to see the biggest loss in PT is probably JD Davis.
Badass  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:23 pm : link
Villar
Villar was such a good signing...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:24 pm : link
In a sea of many of them...
RE: Rojas  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15287979 DanMetroMan said:
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again mentioned before the game that McNeil is the starting 2b . He's yet to see a start in the OF as they suggested they might do so it's pretty clear with everybody healthy Dom/Nimmo/Conforto are the starting OF. The guy who is going to see the biggest loss in PT is probably JD Davis.


Yeah agreed. If Villar keep's up his line (wRC+ 115-ish) he's not going to lose his starting spot.
Can we stop getting hit???  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:25 pm : link
WTF
Dom has had a couple of times  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:26 pm : link
where he’s lost the flight of a pitch, or else he’s a masochist. He’s just not moving away when a pitch is at him last two nights.

Dangerous inning.
These  
DanMetroMan : 6/16/2021 7:26 pm : link
things work themselves out but hard to see where Davis gets regular ab's. Villar/Guillorme have been so good and Pillar is a better OF than Davis.
RE: These  
KDavies : 6/16/2021 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15287986 DanMetroMan said:
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things work themselves out but hard to see where Davis gets regular ab's. Villar/Guillorme have been so good and Pillar is a better OF than Davis.


Basically the few games with a DH, the occasional start at 3B against lefties, and PH
That was an annoying AB  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:41 pm : link
By Ortega.
RE: That was an annoying AB  
KDavies : 6/16/2021 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15288000 ZGiants98 said:
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By Ortega.


Yes. Don’t even know who he is. Thought he was taco sauce.

deGrom probably won’t make it past 6 with the pitch count, as they’ve been keeping him low there
Big knock for Pillar  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:46 pm : link
right there.
Whoohoo  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:47 pm : link
The other illar!
Early productive outs  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:48 pm : link
are nice. Get him in, Tomas!
Jake with a GREAT  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 7:52 pm : link
AB. Wow!
lmao.  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 7:52 pm : link
deGrom legitimaitely is taking hitter ABs. Like this is not a fluke.

Absolutely hilarious.
deGrom up to 6 RBI  
KDavies : 6/16/2021 7:53 pm : link
and 4 ER allowed
We are watching something truly special.  
CooperDash : 6/16/2021 7:53 pm : link
DeGrom is just amazing. What else can you say.
deGrom is the NL version of Ohtani lol  
KDavies : 6/16/2021 7:55 pm : link
deGrom the better pitcher and Ohtani the better hitter.
This guy is just unreal  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 8:05 pm : link
Every pitch
Shit, is hurt?  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 8:07 pm : link
Fuck. Hope it’s just a blister or something.
This sucks...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 8:08 pm : link
deGrom is not fully healthy....
Nicely done  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 8:09 pm : link
Dom!
deGrom  
GF1080 : 6/16/2021 8:10 pm : link
Looks like he is coming out. This really sucks.
RE: This sucks...  
KDavies : 6/16/2021 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15288031 ZGiants98 said:
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deGrom is not fully healthy....


What happened? Was getting the 3 year old to bed and missed it
RE: RE: This sucks...  
ZGiants98 : 6/16/2021 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15288037 KDavies said:
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In comment 15288031 ZGiants98 said:


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deGrom is not fully healthy....



What happened? Was getting the 3 year old to bed and missed it


Its the same shit Im guessing. He was trying to stretch out his arm in the middle of the inning. He clearly was feeling something in there again. He took himself out.
At least  
Everyone Relax : 6/16/2021 8:16 pm : link
he got his first perfect game
Well, you have to imagine that he skips a start at the very  
CooperDash : 6/16/2021 8:18 pm : link
least. Really sucks. Just hope it’s not something worse. 🤞
Air is out of the stadium  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 8:18 pm : link
What a huge loss. If it’s the same elbow problem then you gotta shut him down.

Call up Big Sexy from Mexico
You just have the feeling  
bhill410 : 6/16/2021 8:18 pm : link
That if they can ever get this team effing healthy they could e in World Series but this year has been non stop stress injury wise.
Rizzo is unreal  
jpkmets : 6/16/2021 8:19 pm : link
Gonna be another test for this team to win this game after that blow.
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