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NFT: U.S, Open at Torrey Pines

Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 8:28 am
starts today and ends, as always, on Father's Day. Koepka, Morikawa, Thomas going off around 7:30. Jordan, Rory, Rose, Dustin, and DeChambeau not until after 1PM. Jordan has been coming on, but has a little ankle tweak. Course is playing long and I hear the rough is a bitch.
Tough track. Can play extremely long and certainly  
NYGgolfer : 6/17/2021 8:39 am : link
will for any professional not finding the fairways. Some memorable viewpoints with cliffs and edges around several holes. Played it about 10 years ago and didn't do very well as I spent most of the day screwing around in many of the bunkers on the South course.
Rahm is favored,  
section125 : 6/17/2021 8:47 am : link
bet he plays with some red ass.

I think Morikawa has a good week. Usual suspects will be there. I'd pick Koepka, but the knee is still injured. Thomas has not been sharp lately, but is probably the best wedge player on tour.

Deep rough favors the stronger players. We shall see.
Curious to see  
Br00klyn : 6/17/2021 8:51 am : link
if they trimmed down some of that greenside rough. The videos this past week made it look nearly impossible to hit out of. should be a fun weekend
Was watching Immelman on the Golf Chennel on Tuesday I think  
The_Boss : 6/17/2021 9:48 am : link
He was illustrating how the difference of like 3-5 feet in the rough can determine if a golfer can take a shot at the green or reaches for a wedge to put it back in play.
love the open  
TJ : 6/17/2021 12:22 pm : link
when conditions are right it makes these guys look human
Some low scores  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 4:08 pm : link
so far, for an Open. I take it the greens get a bit chewed up later in the day and become harder to putt on
Spoilers starting  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 5:50 pm : link
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Koepka off to a  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 5:51 pm : link
good start with 2 under, 69
Bill, you at the bbq pit  
ColHowPepper : 6/17/2021 6:49 pm : link
as you're watching? (:
RE: Bill, you at the bbq pit  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15288711 ColHowPepper said:
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as you're watching? (:


Not til moving day :) MB and spag today
Rory misses a par putt  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2021 9:22 pm : link
to drop to -1. Nice to see him playing well. He's my favorite non-American player. Great talent that hasn't been realized for too long now. Jordan sitting at +2 after 10.
Torrey has to be the most boring course in the open rotation  
jlukes : 6/17/2021 9:27 pm : link
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RE: Torrey has to be the most boring course in the open rotation  
fireitup77 : 6/17/2021 9:31 pm : link
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I agree. My brother played it a couple years ago. Lots of holes are basically the same. Long and straight.
Speith  
Bill in UT : 6/18/2021 1:02 am : link
at 6 over, T129. Justin Rose at +7. Good chance of missing the cut unless they have a big day tomorrow.
The course is OK but a little tame  
dpinzow : 6/18/2021 7:29 pm : link
Hopefully the wind kicks up tomorrow or they have more difficult hole locations. The US Open is supposed to be the most challenging major
RE: The course is OK but a little tame  
section125 : 6/18/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15289339 dpinzow said:
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Hopefully the wind kicks up tomorrow or they have more difficult hole locations. The US Open is supposed to be the most challenging major


Think you are under estimating how hard it is playing.
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dpinzow : 6/18/2021 7:47 pm : link
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Hopefully the wind kicks up tomorrow or they have more difficult hole locations. The US Open is supposed to be the most challenging major



Think you are under estimating how hard it is playing.


I think it's a fair test though. Usually you don't see 14 players under par at a US Open though. They didn't make it unfair, which is nice. I think Winged Foot in Mamaroneck is a better course though, which is where it was last year. Only DeChambeau finished under par at -6 which is an amazing achievement there
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section125 : 6/18/2021 7:50 pm : link
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Hopefully the wind kicks up tomorrow or they have more difficult hole locations. The US Open is supposed to be the most challenging major



Think you are under estimating how hard it is playing.



I think it's a fair test though. Usually you don't see 14 players under par at a US Open though. They didn't make it unfair, which is nice. I think Winged Foot in Mamaroneck is a better course though, which is where it was last year. Only DeChambeau finished under par at -6 which is an amazing achievement there


Yeah just played Winged Foot in May from 6500. Rough was still brutal, but the greens were crazy fast and hard to read. Think I shot an 88 and could not make a putt. Scary how tough the slops are.
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dpinzow : 6/18/2021 7:54 pm : link
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Hopefully the wind kicks up tomorrow or they have more difficult hole locations. The US Open is supposed to be the most challenging major



Think you are under estimating how hard it is playing.



I think it's a fair test though. Usually you don't see 14 players under par at a US Open though. They didn't make it unfair, which is nice. I think Winged Foot in Mamaroneck is a better course though, which is where it was last year. Only DeChambeau finished under par at -6 which is an amazing achievement there



Yeah just played Winged Foot in May from 6500. Rough was still brutal, but the greens were crazy fast and hard to read. Think I shot an 88 and could not make a putt. Scary how tough the slops are.


I'm interested to see how Royal St. George's plays at the British next month. That course is fantastic as well and a difficult test of golf
Brooks Koepka and Bryson DeChambeau are both at even  
dpinzow : 6/18/2021 9:43 pm : link
after 36 holes. Please pair them up tomorrow
DeChambeau finished his round a lot earlier than Koepka  
GiantGolfer : 6/18/2021 10:32 pm : link
No shot of them pairing up tomorrow unfortunately.
some less familiar names in the lead after two days -  
Del Shofner : 6/18/2021 10:43 pm : link
what do you golf mavens see happening tomorrow and Sunday?
RE: some less familiar names in the lead after two days -  
Bill in UT : 6/19/2021 12:43 am : link
In comment 15289493 Del Shofner said:
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what do you golf mavens see happening tomorrow and Sunday?


I'm not a maven, but I've been watching golf for a long time. In a big tournament like this, the edge always have to go to the guys who have been there/done that. In this case, the most familiar names, going up to probably Koepka in 13th place at even par. And you can't totally rule out Rory, DJ or maybe even Mick who are just a little bit further off. Just noticed that Spieth made the cut at +4, with a group of 14 tied for 58th. So there will be 71 players tomorrow instead of 60. I think the +3, +4 guys are too far off, but they will play earlier, when the greens are softer and slower, so you might see a good score from one of them.
RE: Mavens - Hard to tell at this point  
section125 : 6/19/2021 7:12 am : link
but Oosthuizen has the creds to keep playing well, as does Bubba Watson. Schauffele and Rahm are right there too. Don't think Bland will hold up through today, but Henley might. Missing that 3 footer on the last hole was a big mistake.

Rahm, Schauffele and Oosthuizen would be guys my to watch with Watson as a dark horse. Unless Koepka goes crazy today, I think there are too many big names ahead of him especially when many are very good golfers.
Would think a few of the guys in the +1 or +2 crowd  
NYGgolfer : 6/19/2021 8:27 am : link
will put up a nice score and get to -2 or -3 depending upon where they put those pins on the back nine.

That little cluster group just behind the leaders has some serious talent (and major wins) in Oosthuizen, Rahm, Watson, Schauffele. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of these names are our leaders going into Sunday.
Apologies section125 as I didn't even read your post  
NYGgolfer : 6/19/2021 8:29 am : link
before putting up mine. Looks like same thoughts on guys though.
Spieth hits a great 2nd shot  
Bill in UT : 6/19/2021 11:19 am : link
from fairway bunker on #1, misses a 6 footer for birdie. He needs to shoot 4 under today to have any chance. Can't afford to miss makeable putts.
Jordan is hitting some great approach shots,  
Bill in UT : 6/19/2021 1:27 pm : link
he just has to hole everything inside 10 feet, lol. Finishes front 9 3-under, at +1 for the tournament.
Rory having a nice round. but  
Bill in UT : 6/19/2021 5:57 pm : link
like Jordan, missing some very makeable putts.
RE: Apologies section125 as I didn't even read your post  
section125 : 6/19/2021 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15289568 NYGgolfer said:
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before putting up mine. Looks like same thoughts on guys though.


No problem. just confirms we can guess together with like minds!
Rahm and Dechambeau  
UConn4523 : 6/19/2021 6:46 pm : link
getting to -3 or better heading into Sunday would be awesome.
RE: Rahm and Dechambeau  
section125 : 6/19/2021 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15289961 UConn4523 said:
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getting to -3 or better heading into Sunday would be awesome.


Bland and Henley hanging in as the big boys starting to catch up.
RE: Rahm and Dechambeau  
dpinzow : 6/19/2021 6:57 pm : link
In comment 15289961 UConn4523 said:
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getting to -3 or better heading into Sunday would be awesome.


Rahm winning would be awesome
Oostie with the Eagle on  
section125 : 6/19/2021 8:31 pm : link
18 for the tie for the lead.
Anyone in the top 10  
Bill in UT : 6/19/2021 8:48 pm : link
could win this, but if I had to put money up, I'd choose from Rory, DeChambeau, Rahm or DJ, hopefully either Rory or DeChambeau
RE: Anyone in the top 10  
section125 : 6/19/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15289995 Bill in UT said:
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could win this, but if I had to put money up, I'd choose from Rory, DeChambeau, Rahm or DJ, hopefully either Rory or DeChambeau


Bill, I think the winner will come from -2 and above. Too many people for those at -1 to overcome. If I had to pick one, Oosthuizen is the one. I do not trust Rory's putting.
Henley may hang in, IDK. Hughes had a better day than both, though.
Yeah, gun to head Oostie would be my pick with DeChambeau close behind.
There's a lot of  
Bill in UT : 6/20/2021 12:57 am : link
good players on the board. It should be fun to watch.
Xander Schauffele  
Jimmy Googs : 6/20/2021 8:50 am : link
as he catches fire and posts a good score. And everybody in front of him starts missing fairways...
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