This guy has drama queen head case written all over him. How do these professional athletes let random people on twitter get under their skin!? And tweeting about it clearly shows he does kare when people come and komment to him about it…
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Kome on, Kadarius, keep your eye on the ball!
So your basing his character off of a tweet? And a tweet where outside of spelling things weird, he didn’t actually say anything bad?
He’s different, that’s about all I can glean from the tweet. I’ll defer to Judge on his character and work ethic since I’ve never interacted with Toney to know for myself.
OR...hear me out, maybe he just likes to use K as a replacement for C in words as a unique signature since his name is Kadarius, just as he did with Young Jo-KA.
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if he shows up to camp not knowing the playbook i will get worried his attention isn't where it should have been but until then as long as he doesn't make waves with legal stuff let's relax and give the kid a chance
This. I’m happy they hedged by getting the picks next year. Who cares if he was born in 1999? He’s an adult and he was the Giants first round pick
I miss the days when we just had the internet to search for things on google, read sports news, but weren’t subjected to everyone’s tweets and Facebook posts and how they may be cryptic, and all of the other nonsense.
Now get off my lawn! Lol.
Jesus Christ.
Sounds more like you're projecting than anyone being obtuse. Aside from clickbait hungry puff pieces from local media (that of course don't know a thing about the kid), where have you seen ANYTHING that he cares more about music than football?
By all accounts every person close to him, including multiple coaches and talent evaluators in the pros, think highly of him..especially his commitment to football and work ethic.
He may bust...he may turn into a terrible player...but the reasons for "concern" up until this point in June are cringe worthy.
Does all that negative spinning make you dizzy? Talk about making mountains out of mole hills. Sheesh.
Jesus Christ.
Correct — the tweet in context of all the things that came before it. It’s meaningless if you tend to only look at things in a vacuum.
The music thing can go either way. Some players can balance business ventures outside of football and it doesn’t affect their focus. Others not so much. I’m not going to lie, I wish he was a football only guy, but that doesn’t mean the music thing will mess up his football career.
I hope I am wrong and he excels as a Giant. But I’d be kidding myself to say it still doesn’t bother me that we didn’t get Smith. It would have been nice to put a smooth polished route runner like that on the other side of Golladay. At least we got a huge return on the trade.
If you assume we would have given up a third to move up to take Smith the debate going forward will be a comparison between DeVonta Smith and Toney/Aaron Robinson/Bears 2022 first rounder/Bears 2022 fourth rounder. Even if Toney busts there are still three other players there that could be good, including a first rounder that could be a top 10 pick.
By all accounts every person close to him, including multiple coaches and talent evaluators in the pros, think highly of him..especially his commitment to football and work ethic.
He may bust...he may turn into a terrible player...but the reasons for "concern" up until this point in June are cringe worthy.
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that’s what I’m commenting on. And the cleats?
Jesus Christ.
Correct — the tweet in context of all the things that came before it. It’s meaningless if you tend to only look at things in a vacuum.
Whatever you say man. I’ll be concerned when it’s warranted. Happy that he’s taken to music and not getting into trouble. There’s multiple ways to look at something, you chose yours and I chose mine.
Ironic to have a drama queen start a thread about a guy being a drama queen from tweets.
I think you meant to say klouds
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
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His post draft interview with Papa was less than inspiring to say the least . I know expressing doubt in anything Judge does is not allowed around here but I have a bad feeling this guy is going to prove to be a bad use of a first round pick
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
While not thrilled with the pick, I do think Toney got thrown into kind of a shit position here to some extent. At least leading into his first year. A lot of fans were expecting them to land Smith. Toney playing the same position as Smith now places the microscope on him going forward. When the reality is that there are multiple draft picks in addition to Toney that need to be factored in as I mentioned earlier.
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His post draft interview with Papa was less than inspiring to say the least . I know expressing doubt in anything Judge does is not allowed around here but I have a bad feeling this guy is going to prove to be a bad use of a first round pick
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
While not thrilled with the pick, I do think Toney got thrown into kind of a shit position here to some extent. At least leading into his first year. A lot of fans were expecting them to land Smith. Toney playing the same position as Smith now places the microscope on him going forward. When the reality is that there are multiple draft picks in addition to Toney that need to be factored in as I mentioned earlier.
he doesnt play the same positiin as smith and that is what people need yo realize
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In comment 15289630 Ned In Atlanta said:
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His post draft interview with Papa was less than inspiring to say the least . I know expressing doubt in anything Judge does is not allowed around here but I have a bad feeling this guy is going to prove to be a bad use of a first round pick
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
While not thrilled with the pick, I do think Toney got thrown into kind of a shit position here to some extent. At least leading into his first year. A lot of fans were expecting them to land Smith. Toney playing the same position as Smith now places the microscope on him going forward. When the reality is that there are multiple draft picks in addition to Toney that need to be factored in as I mentioned earlier.
he doesnt play the same positiin as smith and that is what people need yo realize
He’s listed as a WR is what I am saying. Not that they play the same receiver spot. If they would have taken a defensive player or a lineman or something it would be viewed differently.
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In comment 15289722 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15289630 Ned In Atlanta said:
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His post draft interview with Papa was less than inspiring to say the least . I know expressing doubt in anything Judge does is not allowed around here but I have a bad feeling this guy is going to prove to be a bad use of a first round pick
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
While not thrilled with the pick, I do think Toney got thrown into kind of a shit position here to some extent. At least leading into his first year. A lot of fans were expecting them to land Smith. Toney playing the same position as Smith now places the microscope on him going forward. When the reality is that there are multiple draft picks in addition to Toney that need to be factored in as I mentioned earlier.
he doesnt play the same positiin as smith and that is what people need yo realize
He’s listed as a WR is what I am saying. Not that they play the same receiver spot. If they would have taken a defensive player or a lineman or something it would be viewed differently.
i get what your saying, i am just sayimg he is not a traditional wr like people think and if they think that they will be severepy dissapointed
Interesting take…didn’t see where anyone declared him a bust. But please show us what you’re referring to.
Vastly different situation. Toney by all accounts is very smart.
The better cautionary tale is probably Beckham. If Toney has the type of success we all hope he does, will he be able to control himself with the media and critics, and not get himself into the types of traps that sour the football people around him.
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because he's a weirdo that changes Cs to Ks in his tweets? WTF? I'm not even some sort beacon for open mindedness. That tweet was stupid. What does that have to do with his career, though?
Interesting take…didn’t see where anyone declared him a bust. But please show us what you’re referring to.
a) It's implied he'll at least be a disappointment.
b) If he's not a bust or disappointment what's the hysteria about?
Kome on, Kadarius, keep your eye on the ball!
This was in jest, in kase that wasn't obvious. I'm really knot too koncerned, yet.
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I can remember fans being "concerned" that Brandon Jacobs and Mario Manningham weren't smart enough to learn the offense.
Vastly different situation. Toney by all accounts is very smart.
The better cautionary tale is probably Beckham. If Toney has the type of success we all hope he does, will he be able to control himself with the media and critics, and not get himself into the types of traps that sour the football people around him.
On that same topic, Beckham had no character concerns coming out of LSU, and basically turned into the "diva" that the op is trying to insinuate can become of Toney.
Look at a bunch of the problem players in the NFL, and many of them were quire boys in college.
There are also countless other players who had character "concerns" that have lit the league up and became great pros.
The hilarity of this thread is that its JUNE...the guys rookie year hasnt even started yet. Be worried when theres a problem.
I don’t question KTs music but I do question his judgement in skipping OTAs... but all is forgiven if he shows up on time ready to go next month.
Oh, so "rumors". You're right, definitely time to bash the kid.
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
Agreed sorry isn’t warranted. He does seem to be need to develop a thicker skin (very common for young guy).
You can’t go grab your gun when some townies disrespect your friend, and you can’t get in a Twitter spat when a stranger says something mean to you, if you want a productive career as an athlete or entertainer.
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
It seems like Toney is fine though. It’s people here that have a problem and that’s their problem not his. Plenty of celebrities control themselves on social media.
He was also just a kid playing football until 3 months ago. Until he’s recklessly using social media I don’t know why he should just delete everything.
Btw, I thought KT wasn’t in minis b/c he hadn’t signed. Am I getting that wrong?
Btw, I thought KT wasn’t in minis b/c he hadn’t signed. Am I getting that wrong?
he wasnt at the media otas because he had an excused family emergency..
he was there for the mandatory mini camp and for some of the otas
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I can remember fans being "concerned" that Brandon Jacobs and Mario Manningham weren't smart enough to learn the offense.
Vastly different situation. Toney by all accounts is very smart.
The better cautionary tale is probably Beckham. If Toney has the type of success we all hope he does, will he be able to control himself with the media and critics, and not get himself into the types of traps that sour the football people around him.
What accounts claim Toney is smart? Honestly, seems quite the contrary. I don't really care about his IQ though, guy plays WR. Just means it will take him a bit longer to learn the playbook. What I do like is his extremely competitive behavior and great work ethic that I read about, that's the type of "character" we need on a football team. Outside of that, just don't get arrested and show up when you have your contract signed and be a professional.