This guy has drama queen head case written all over him. How do these professional athletes let random people on twitter get under their skin!? And tweeting about it clearly shows he does kare when people come and komment to him about it…
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is nothing going on so fans are going to find something to focus on (i.e., complain about).
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
It seems like Toney is fine though. It’s people here that have a problem and that’s their problem not his. Plenty of celebrities control themselves on social media.
He was also just a kid playing football until 3 months ago. Until he’s recklessly using social media I don’t know why he should just delete everything.
These old guys forget that he's only 21 years old, doesn't understand that he shouldn't stoop to the level of people taking him down. Just don't respond.
I also don't see the need to create controversies where they don't exist.
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
More to lose than gain? What? These guys all use social media to build followings so they can sell products and market.
JJ Watt raised tens of millions through social media, he should definitely stop…
“So yeah, I think given his quarterback background, he brings a little bit more of a general understanding about football than other positions.”
I think the last thing anyone is worried about is his football IQ.
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“He knows how to look at a defense. He knows how to asset coverage. He knows how to understand when a defense is about to blitz, which might affect routes or timing and all these things,” Morris said.
“So yeah, I think given his quarterback background, he brings a little bit more of a general understanding about football than other positions.”
I think the last thing anyone is worried about is his football IQ.
You can be a QB and be a dumbass when you are as good an athlete as he is. Petrino had to pare down his playbook for Lamar once upon a time.
JJ Watt raised tens of millions through social media, he should definitely stop…
Yeah the key is recognizing that it's no longer your personal social media, it is now a business account. That's what they should be teaching these guys at the rookie synposium.
This is such a ridiculous thread.
His highlights look good, and the Giants drafted him so I am just hopeful at this point. Stud, dud or in between remains to be seen.
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He was a QB who went through the Manning circles in high school and recruited to play QB in the SEC. He’s not a guy who’s going to struggle to learn a playbook. His football smarts have the endorsements.
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“He knows how to look at a defense. He knows how to asset coverage. He knows how to understand when a defense is about to blitz, which might affect routes or timing and all these things,” Morris said.
“So yeah, I think given his quarterback background, he brings a little bit more of a general understanding about football than other positions.”
I think the last thing anyone is worried about is his football IQ.
You can be a QB and be a dumbass when you are as good an athlete as he is. Petrino had to pare down his playbook for Lamar once upon a time.
Except there’s no evidence that applies to Toney.
David Morris, part of the cerebral quarterback fraternity, who’s worked with him since he was a high schooler, seems to think his football IQ is pretty strong and an asset.
What evidence is there that Toney is a dumbass?
Thought they could’ve beat Steelers but Reid retired and they traded bill bergey, Lemar Parrish and Tommy Casanova retired at 27 too
3 all pro defensive players. With them, they may have won a sb once in 70s
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He was a QB who went through the Manning circles in high school and recruited to play QB in the SEC. He’s not a guy who’s going to struggle to learn a playbook. His football smarts have the endorsements.
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“He knows how to look at a defense. He knows how to asset coverage. He knows how to understand when a defense is about to blitz, which might affect routes or timing and all these things,” Morris said.
“So yeah, I think given his quarterback background, he brings a little bit more of a general understanding about football than other positions.”
I think the last thing anyone is worried about is his football IQ.
You can be a QB and be a dumbass when you are as good an athlete as he is. Petrino had to pare down his playbook for Lamar once upon a time.
Except there’s no evidence that applies to Toney.
David Morris, part of the cerebral quarterback fraternity, who’s worked with him since he was a high schooler, seems to think his football IQ is pretty strong and an asset.
What evidence is there that Toney is a dumbass?
I don't know about his football IQ but the thing that stands out to me in the highlights is how well he plays off of defenders' movements. Putting people off balance and knowing when to make a move based on defender balance. It is just a natural gift for some and he seems to have it.
I always thought it was what made Tiki so special as well, his ability to make subtle movements to make defenders commit or to set up blocks downfield.
I know it's a very boring time of the year football wise because there is very little happening but let's not overreact to a kid's tweet.
I just hope that Toney and the rest of the team spend less time on social media because there are far too many miserable people out there looking to attack others in an attempt to make others as miserable as them.
If the guy comes into camp ready to go and play like he did at Florida, he can type all the "k"s he wants (except three together). If he is a bust I don't care if he lives and breathes football and lives at the facility.
He was drafted to play football. What he does outside of football is his business, not mine or Josh's.
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is nothing going on so fans are going to find something to focus on (i.e., complain about).
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
More to lose than gain? What? These guys all use social media to build followings so they can sell products and market.
I understand that. But how many times have you seen this bite them in the ass? You can find a 30-year old celebrity who posted something 10 years ago that comes back to haunt them. To me, the risk isn't worth it. Is their wealth coming more from their social media presence or their actual professional contracts?
Grown men getting defensive over 23 year olds they don't know are hilarious, too.
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However, It was a head scratcher from the standpoint of everything Judge says he wants character and personality wise for the team. Even compared to the rest of the draft picks, Toney stands out as clearly…different.
So your basing his character off of a tweet? And a tweet where outside of spelling things weird, he didn’t actually say anything bad?
He’s different, that’s about all I can glean from the tweet. I’ll defer to Judge on his character and work ethic since I’ve never interacted with Toney to know for myself.
What is important is he is a great teammate, loves winning, wants to be great and is prepared to pay the price to win.
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born in 1999 over a tweet is hilarious...if not a bit sad.
Grown men getting defensive over 23 year olds they don't know are hilarious, too.
Would agree with that as well Rt 9
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Fuck the Eagles for trading ahead of us for Smith.
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born in 1999 over a tweet is hilarious...if not a bit sad.
Grown men getting defensive over 23 year olds they don't know are hilarious, too.
Who is getting defensive? I think you have some serious issues bud.
Regardless, I know the NFL has done rookie symposiums in the past to acclimate them to NFL life, I wonder if they do a “how to handle yourself on social media” type course?
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is nothing going on so fans are going to find something to focus on (i.e., complain about).
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
More to lose than gain? What? These guys all use social media to build followings so they can sell products and market.
I understand that. But how many times have you seen this bite them in the ass? You can find a 30-year old celebrity who posted something 10 years ago that comes back to haunt them. To me, the risk isn't worth it. Is their wealth coming more from their social media presence or their actual professional contracts?
I understand the sentiment, and honestly I don't disagree with the take. But the reality is just that we now have a generation of people who have lived their entire lives with social media being completely ingrained in to their world. For a lot of younger people, posting on Twitter or Instagram comes as natural as speaking.
Even as grown adults, we all say and think ridiculously stupid things on occasion, without ever being aware of just how stupid they are. Unfortunately for this generation those things are now permanently documented somewhere online and easily accessible by the public.
It's sound advice to tell a young person to stay away from social media, even if they don't have aspirations of achieving any kind of fame - but again, it's so ingrained in the culture that it would be almost impossible to convince many people to make that choice.
The willingness of otherwise mature-minded people to still say dumb things on social media is a longer discussion for another day.
He’s a smart, talented kid, on and off the field. Good for him he’s pursuing a music career as well. Music is a great place to put his energy.
It’s in his best interest to chill out. He’s a kid, that will come in time.
He’s the most exciting pick since Beckham.
Over Saquon Barkley? No.
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because he's a weirdo that changes Cs to Ks in his tweets? WTF? I'm not even some sort beacon for open mindedness. That tweet was stupid. What does that have to do with his career, though?
Interesting take…didn’t see where anyone declared him a bust. But please show us what you’re referring to.
a) It's implied he'll at least be a disappointment.
b) If he's not a bust or disappointment what's the hysteria about?
OR...hear me out, maybe he just likes to use K as a replacement for C in words as a unique signature since his name is Kadarius, just as he did with Young Jo-KA.
Yes, he's special, normal rules don't apply to him, even about language, we get it. Do you?
Luckily for him, Josh in the City wasn't a fan of his team and wasn't around to bitch and moan about yet another ridiculous thing.
And I'm sure as we sit here today, Julius Peppers doesn't give a fuck.
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born in 1999 over a tweet is hilarious...if not a bit sad.
Hope you recover from your sorrow soon. Get well.
Did you just have a seizure?
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I can remember fans being "concerned" that Brandon Jacobs and Mario Manningham weren't smart enough to learn the offense.
Vastly different situation. Toney by all accounts is very smart.
The better cautionary tale is probably Beckham. If Toney has the type of success we all hope he does, will he be able to control himself with the media and critics, and not get himself into the types of traps that sour the football people around him.
That wasn't the point. The point is fans worry about certain things they have zero idea about.
Hopefully. Or he might not be on the Giants 5 years from now. I'd say the odds are equal.
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His post draft interview with Papa was less than inspiring to say the least . I know expressing doubt in anything Judge does is not allowed around here but I have a bad feeling this guy is going to prove to be a bad use of a first round pick
So we should trust some random old dude that’s sitting on his sofa on a message boards “feeling” on a player that is the polar opposite culture wise of said old man and we should take his advice to “express doubt” in Judge before on the draft pick that not only hasn’t played a single game yet, but hasn’t even approached training camp?
This is example 10000000 on why Giants fans absolutely suck. Toney is already enemy number 1. In June. Because he had a clear issue, has been dealing with a family matter and made some tweets that the dinosaurs of BBI can’t relate to. You guys should be embarrassed. And ashamed. But I know you’re not because you don’t know any better.
Such a shit ass thread.
Exactly. The season hasn't even started and we're into the silly already.
Beckham was just a quirky character until injuries and production started to slip.
Luckily for him, Josh in the City wasn't a fan of his team and wasn't around to bitch and moan about yet another ridiculous thing.
And I'm sure as we sit here today, Julius Peppers doesn't give a fuck.
Right. If his passion was curating Impressionist art or some shit, there would be crickets. I’ve heard the argument made here that they don’t like rappers and they are all up to no good, which is ridiculous. I don’t think we have to worry about him hanging out with other rappers and getting sucked into the lifestyle, he’s just not all that good. Nobody inviting him to guest track anytime soon. Even if he was, a lot of these players are constantly around drugs. Most of them are pretty good about keeping it to weed and some occasional blow.
But you are taking very young men and suddenly giving them a lot of money and fame. Most people acquire their money incrementally so they learn how to deal with it.
And most importantly, social media puts these guys under constant surveillance. Wherever they go, whatever they say, there is a record of it.
Getting snaps over Mims isn't that notable. Mims was mediocre and the Jets have little WR depth.
Nor is it notable that Toney didn't get 1st team snaps during minicamp on a team with Golladay/Slayton/Shepard. You know, 3 WRs that have actually been productive in the NFL...
That said, I still don't understand why celebrities go on Twitter. There is more to lose than gain. You see it all of the time in every entertainment field. People are just ready to pounce. Their lives are so devoid of meaning that they live through tearing other people down.
They should absolutely use Twitter since their earning potential is at least in part to how well they are known. They just need to hire PR firms to post their messages!
Players have interests outside of football.
Do you guys get off time from work? I assume you work 24/7?