Might be the super team of dysfunctional people.
All 3 are incredible talented and the window is next year or bust as all 3 become FA's but mentally they are a disaster.
As non-nets fan it's fun to watch them blow up and I think all NBA fans outside of Nets fans wanted to see them lose.
It will be interesting to see what you get next year out of the big 3?
Super motivated and all 3 play 82 games or this dysfunction/injuries we saw this year?
that knicks fans are the same breed as jets fans. not all of them, but 90% of them. insecurity to the highest degree. quite sad.
i was rooting for the knicks against the hawks. why? because they aren't rivals and I like Thibs.
tough loss last night, once kyrie and Harden were down the likelihood of winning the series was quite low... but they still could have won. healthy they walk to a ring, but ifs and buts mean nothing in sports.
they need to learn to trust more people- which is on the coaching staff. Nash deserves blame for not getting shamet and Claxton involved more, or some sort of rotation to at least spell guys and maybe shake it up.
harris was awful why cant shamet get some of his minutes?
I'll pull for a bucks/suns finals with Brook getting a ring. amazing game for him last night must have been satisfying taking down the Nets- he was a big time difference maker.
Nash not trying someone (ANYONE) in place of Joe Harris for 10-20 minutes at some point during that game is indefensible imo. When Bruce Brown was on Middleton he missed shots, when Middleton got Harris switched on him they scored every time. Try Shamet. Try Mike James. Try going bigger with Claxton or Jeff Green (which would have allowed them to play KD on Middleton). Try Tyler Johnson. Joe Harris for 47m of 3 for 9 from 3 and getting targeted on D is not defensible. In the 2 games prior Joe was 2/11 from 3 and in game 6 in particular he was a -25. How Nash didn't have a plan B ready to go is mind boggling.
he should have also gotten KD a few minutes of rest in the 2nd half but that's more understandable (though not as understandable as it was in G5 when they were playing from behind).
honestly as a net fan KD and Harden both earned a ton of respect in my book. Bruce Brown, Blake Griffin, Jeff Green too. Those guys all put everything out there and gave us a few of the best games in the NBA in a while. That was an all time game 7 after an all time game 5. Kind of mind boggling to me that any NBA fan could watch those games and not enjoy the level of basketball played in the games themselves (especially KD and Giannis) but I guess 20+ years of bitterness and incompetence will cause different people to act different ways.
btw the hardest part of that game for me was watching Lopez make so many plays against us. he was a big difference maker. Swap him and Harris and Nets win in 5 or 6 even without Kyrie. In fact swap Harris for just about everyone including Connaughton and they win yesterday.
Might be the super team of dysfunctional people.
All 3 are incredible talented and the window is next year or bust as all 3 become FA's but mentally they are a disaster.
As non-nets fan it's fun to watch them blow up and I think all NBA fans outside of Nets fans wanted to see them lose.
It will be interesting to see what you get next year out of the big 3?
Super motivated and all 3 play 82 games or this dysfunction/injuries we saw this year?
blow up?
KD turned in an all time performance.
Kyrie got undercut (after making a basket) and his ankle went 45 degrees the wrong way.
Harden played almost 150 minutes in the last 3 games without being able to run.
injuries happen. this year they happened to a lot of players. Or did Kawhi, Cp3, Ad, Embid, all blow up too?
That’s what fans do with teams they loathe..As a kid, I hated the Yankees and Brooklyn Dodgers and delighted in their losses, albeit the Yanks rarely lost then.
Since the inception of the AFL in 1960, I’ve disliked the Titans/Jets except for a brief period when the Tuna coached there.
I loathe the Islanders, my son loves them, as I am a Rangers fan. I’m hoping they get eliminated..
It’s nothing PERSONAL, just “SPORTS PERSONAL” and I revel in losses for certain teams. Very few fans that I know feel like most of us do..
So yes, I am delighted..
And Fu*k the injuries excuse. ALWAYS part of the game.
That’s why generally speakingthe healthiest teams win titles..If we can’t point to injuries as an excuse for some of our pathetic seasons, than neither can “you” for other teams, imv
RE: And Fu*k the injuries excuse. ALWAYS part of the game.
That’s why generally speakingthe healthiest teams win titles..If we can’t point to injuries as an excuse for some of our pathetic seasons, than neither can “you” for other teams, imv
Injuries aren’t an excuse, they are a reason. Why is this always conflated?
An excuse is saying “I played poorly because I didn’t get enough sleep lastnight”.
That’s why generally speakingthe healthiest teams win titles..If we can’t point to injuries as an excuse for some of our pathetic seasons, than neither can “you” for other teams, imv
Injuries aren’t an excuse, they are a reason. Why is this always conflated?
An excuse is saying “I played poorly because I didn’t get enough sleep lastnight”.
Sure, I agree, but someone said above that without the injuries, it would have been a cakewalk to the finals. That’s an excuse to me. Yes, it’s part reason, but they don’t have to be mutually exclusive..Semantics, imo
Look up and down the injuries of the playoff teams. Plenty of teams lost some of their best players. It’s not just the Nets. Some of them overcame the injuries and some didn’t. The Clippers lost far and away their best player and went on to beat the number 1 seed without him. Nobody is gonna feel bad for the Nets. The team they had out there was probably still the most talented team left in the playoffs, even without Kyrie.
“No one cares about the Nets!”, but can’t stop whining when they win or gloating when they lose.
And “super team” doesn’t apply when one is out and the other playing on one leg. But don’t worry, you can continue to gloat about your first round exit.
RE: Some Knick fans looking like total douchebags.
“No one cares about the Nets!”, but can’t stop whining when they win or gloating when they lose.
And “super team” doesn’t apply when one is out and the other playing on one leg. But don’t worry, you can continue to gloat about your first round exit.
come on it is all in good fun, any sane person knows nets win this serie sin 5 if the Nets are healthy..
it is not to be malicous, you arent happy when the eagles or cowboys lose?
I don't think anyone cares about people rooting for whoever they want
there are always 2 teams and some root for or against one or the other.
I do think there's a difference between those that can root against a team and maintain some level of reality and those who need to create some alternate reality where the nets "blew up" or "imploded" or lost because they were "dysfunctional". KD played like the hall of famer he is and the team around him just didn't play good enough (while the Bucks supporting cast did).
I can generally root against the Cowboys and at the same time understand that their season changed when Dak's foot almost snapped off. I also don't particularly revel in injuries even if it's a team I loathe but I suppose that's a personal decision.
I guess this is what happens to the fans of a team that has the most losses and lowest winning percentage in the past 20 years. Congrats Knicks fans, on avoiding more bitterness and jealousy?
There is reality
There is the fact they should have overcome and still won.
Had they played and coached well they should have. They didn’t. It sucks
Talking about injuries isn’t an excuse it’s reality.
It’s drifting towards jets/eagles hybrid fan base -
RE: And Fu*k the injuries excuse. ALWAYS part of the game.
That’s why generally speakingthe healthiest teams win titles..If we can’t point to injuries as an excuse for some of our pathetic seasons, than neither can “you” for other teams, imv
Yeah, and if LeBron and AD don't get hurt the Lakers would be on they're way to repeating just about now.
Was Kyrie actually hurt, or did he just not feel like playing?
Watching the nets lose last night was th best Father’s Day gift that I could ever ask for. I am elated to see the big 3 get knocked out. I am a big Knicks fan, season tickets for the past 14 years. I don’t think there is anything wrong with rooting against another team that is part of sports. My friends have tormented me for years about the Knicks, al part of being a fan. Harden any Kyrie are two of the top 5 most unlikeable players in the nba, it makes it so sweet to see them get knocked out. I will root for the same result next year, but I know if they stay healthy nets should win the championship easily. Also I anticipate they will add a few more vet ring chasers
It's tough to lose like that. And we've all been there. But I simply can't stand that brand of team building. And now the Nets players are complaining about injuries in the post game press conference. A completely unlikable, disingenuous, soft, and manufactured "team" who, regardless of my Fandom, I'd root to lose all day, every day. Garbage.
If KD and Kylie had signed with the Knicks, you’d be licking their balls.
It's tough to lose like that. And we've all been there. But I simply can't stand that brand of team building. And now the Nets players are complaining about injuries in the post game press conference. A completely unlikable, disingenuous, soft, and manufactured "team" who, regardless of my Fandom, I'd root to lose all day, every day. Garbage.
If KD and Kylie had signed with the Knicks, you’d be licking their balls.
Wrong. As I stated above.
I'll leave the ball licking to you.
So many tears.
RE: Was Kyrie actually hurt, or did he just not feel like playing?
Kyrie was legit hurt. He had a bad lateral ankle sprain. It's likely that he would have been unavailable for the rest of the playoffs had the Nets advanced
With a 2nd round exit to show for it. That window sure does close fast. The clock, it is a tickin. Maybe they can trade a couple of picks for Doncic. Maybe convince Steph to ask out and send them a couple of 2nds. Maybe THAT will do it?
Nah, prolly not.
I actually think Brooklyn cruises to the title next year
if they stay healthy. But the $64,000 question is, do they stay healthy? Durant, as great as he is, is playing on borrowed time with an Achilles tear on his injury history. Harden started to break down this year for the first time in his career, but I think he's the best bet to stay healthy for a full season. And Kyrie is always hurt.
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
Not nearly as sad a a person signing a contract and then basically doing every thing g they can to sabotage their employer and fellow workers to get out of their responsibilities.
Only Lebron getting bounced is a better story.
Anyone who doesn't get why non Net fans are so happy is a moron
RE: I actually think Brooklyn cruises to the title next year
if they stay healthy. But the $64,000 question is, do they stay healthy? Durant, as great as he is, is playing on borrowed time with an Achilles tear on his injury history. Harden started to break down this year for the first time in his career, but I think he's the best bet to stay healthy for a full season. And Kyrie is always hurt.
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
I think if Irving doesn't go down in this series, the Nets win in 6 tops. And if all three were 100%, Nets cruise to a title. But that's life.
RE: RE: I actually think Brooklyn cruises to the title next year
if they stay healthy. But the $64,000 question is, do they stay healthy? Durant, as great as he is, is playing on borrowed time with an Achilles tear on his injury history. Harden started to break down this year for the first time in his career, but I think he's the best bet to stay healthy for a full season. And Kyrie is always hurt.
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
I think if Irving doesn't go down in this series, the Nets win in 6 tops. And if all three were 100%, Nets cruise to a title. But that's life.
I also think their title window is one year (next year). After that, the injury history of KD and Kyrie becomes too much. Plus, after next season, they all have contract options to stay or leave
Even if the team wins a championship or two, it's hard to keep everyone happy. Egos get in the way, injuries, guys start to take a step back, ready for something new, etc.
Even if the team wins a championship or two, it's hard to keep everyone happy. Egos get in the way, injuries, guys start to take a step back, ready for something new, etc.
Good points all around. Remember when LBJ talked about the Heatles winning 8 titles? Haha. They got 2 & should have only had 1 (Damn you Ray Allen.)
It’s sports relax these aren’t real life decision making situations, we are taking about sports. Why am I a child for wanting teams I don’t like to lose. It’s not like I hope people at rival firms of mine fail at their jobs. I simply enjoy watching sports teams that I don’t like lose.
of other NY teams that you don't root for is immature. Like or hate whatever teams you want, including NY teams. The taunting is juvenile. Just my opinion. Carry on.
RE: Taunting fellow Giants fans because they are fans
of other NY teams that you don't root for is immature. Like or hate whatever teams you want, including NY teams. The taunting is juvenile. Just my opinion. Carry on.
Almost all of the taunting of a fan base I see on this thread is Nets fans taunting Knicks fans. I’m sure I missed some but I don’t see a bunch of Knicks fans taunting Nets fans. I see Knicks fans taunting the Nets, not the fans. Nets fans are the ones that brought fan bases into this.
Most Nets fans on here are cool. It’s not their fault that the team they cheer for put together one of the least likeable cast of characters in sports. Maybe ever. And they shouldn’t take it personally when people express this sentiment. They’d all agree with us if this was the Lakers or Heat or Celtics that put that team together.
Growing up in NJ I’ve known plenty of Nets fans - they are great fans. I’d be happy for all of them if/when the Nets break through and win it all. Rooting against the favorite is just part of sports - I know it well as a Yankees fan. We’re not talking about life and death issues here.
of other NY teams that you don't root for is immature. Like or hate whatever teams you want, including NY teams. The taunting is juvenile. Just my opinion. Carry on.
Almost all of the taunting of a fan base I see on this thread is Nets fans taunting Knicks fans. I’m sure I missed some but I don’t see a bunch of Knicks fans taunting Nets fans. I see Knicks fans taunting the Nets, not the fans. Nets fans are the ones that brought fan bases into this.
Most Nets fans on here are cool. It’s not their fault that the team they cheer for put together one of the least likeable cast of characters in sports. Maybe ever. And they shouldn’t take it personally when people express this sentiment. They’d all agree with us if this was the Lakers or Heat or Celtics that put that team together.
Exactly right. We're not taunting the fans. We're taunting the team. They could wear any jersey and I'd give them hell for shitting the bed.
So many feelings and sensitivity. It's sports. Talking shit in sports is fun. As long as you don't take it personally, which is painfully obvious that's what's happening here. And I'M the one who needs to grow up? Please...
Some of you guys are getting way too worked up over
a little ball breaking. Much respect to anyone who's stuck with the Nets rather than jump on one of the super team bandwagons.
But even you guys have to admit the Nets becoming the new super team and being crowned champions before the playoffs started invites a healthy measure of derision. Not directed at you guys, at the media and some of the Nets themselves
The Nets have a couple really unlikeable guys. I can't say it isn't pretty satisfying to see Kyrie's team lose. Yeah I know he was really hurt. But fuck him anyway. Durant's an all-time great and played like it. Still not a huge fan.
I'm a Yankee fan, which means I rooted for the likes of Clemens, A-Rod, and several others who were jerks. I never stopped rooting for the Yankees, but had no problem with fans who were happy to see the Yanks lose bc they didn't like those guys.
All 3 are incredible talented and the window is next year or bust as all 3 become FA's but mentally they are a disaster.
As non-nets fan it's fun to watch them blow up and I think all NBA fans outside of Nets fans wanted to see them lose.
It will be interesting to see what you get next year out of the big 3?
Super motivated and all 3 play 82 games or this dysfunction/injuries we saw this year?
i was rooting for the knicks against the hawks. why? because they aren't rivals and I like Thibs.
tough loss last night, once kyrie and Harden were down the likelihood of winning the series was quite low... but they still could have won. healthy they walk to a ring, but ifs and buts mean nothing in sports.
they need to learn to trust more people- which is on the coaching staff. Nash deserves blame for not getting shamet and Claxton involved more, or some sort of rotation to at least spell guys and maybe shake it up.
harris was awful why cant shamet get some of his minutes?
I'll pull for a bucks/suns finals with Brook getting a ring. amazing game for him last night must have been satisfying taking down the Nets- he was a big time difference maker.
Nash not trying someone (ANYONE) in place of Joe Harris for 10-20 minutes at some point during that game is indefensible imo. When Bruce Brown was on Middleton he missed shots, when Middleton got Harris switched on him they scored every time. Try Shamet. Try Mike James. Try going bigger with Claxton or Jeff Green (which would have allowed them to play KD on Middleton). Try Tyler Johnson. Joe Harris for 47m of 3 for 9 from 3 and getting targeted on D is not defensible. In the 2 games prior Joe was 2/11 from 3 and in game 6 in particular he was a -25. How Nash didn't have a plan B ready to go is mind boggling.
he should have also gotten KD a few minutes of rest in the 2nd half but that's more understandable (though not as understandable as it was in G5 when they were playing from behind).
honestly as a net fan KD and Harden both earned a ton of respect in my book. Bruce Brown, Blake Griffin, Jeff Green too. Those guys all put everything out there and gave us a few of the best games in the NBA in a while. That was an all time game 7 after an all time game 5. Kind of mind boggling to me that any NBA fan could watch those games and not enjoy the level of basketball played in the games themselves (especially KD and Giannis) but I guess 20+ years of bitterness and incompetence will cause different people to act different ways.
btw the hardest part of that game for me was watching Lopez make so many plays against us. he was a big difference maker. Swap him and Harris and Nets win in 5 or 6 even without Kyrie. In fact swap Harris for just about everyone including Connaughton and they win yesterday.
All 3 are incredible talented and the window is next year or bust as all 3 become FA's but mentally they are a disaster.
As non-nets fan it's fun to watch them blow up and I think all NBA fans outside of Nets fans wanted to see them lose.
It will be interesting to see what you get next year out of the big 3?
Super motivated and all 3 play 82 games or this dysfunction/injuries we saw this year?
blow up?
KD turned in an all time performance.
Kyrie got undercut (after making a basket) and his ankle went 45 degrees the wrong way.
Harden played almost 150 minutes in the last 3 games without being able to run.
injuries happen. this year they happened to a lot of players. Or did Kawhi, Cp3, Ad, Embid, all blow up too?
Since the inception of the AFL in 1960, I’ve disliked the Titans/Jets except for a brief period when the Tuna coached there.
I loathe the Islanders, my son loves them, as I am a Rangers fan. I’m hoping they get eliminated..
It’s nothing PERSONAL, just “SPORTS PERSONAL” and I revel in losses for certain teams. Very few fans that I know feel like most of us do..
So yes, I am delighted..
Injuries aren’t an excuse, they are a reason. Why is this always conflated?
An excuse is saying “I played poorly because I didn’t get enough sleep lastnight”.
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That’s why generally speakingthe healthiest teams win titles..If we can’t point to injuries as an excuse for some of our pathetic seasons, than neither can “you” for other teams, imv
Injuries aren’t an excuse, they are a reason. Why is this always conflated?
An excuse is saying “I played poorly because I didn’t get enough sleep lastnight”.
Sure, I agree, but someone said above that without the injuries, it would have been a cakewalk to the finals. That’s an excuse to me. Yes, it’s part reason, but they don’t have to be mutually exclusive..Semantics, imo
And every year when the silly debate comes up in February if teams should be sitting stars and monitoring their minutes, the answer is of course yes.
And “super team” doesn’t apply when one is out and the other playing on one leg. But don’t worry, you can continue to gloat about your first round exit.
And “super team” doesn’t apply when one is out and the other playing on one leg. But don’t worry, you can continue to gloat about your first round exit.
come on it is all in good fun, any sane person knows nets win this serie sin 5 if the Nets are healthy..
it is not to be malicous, you arent happy when the eagles or cowboys lose?
I do think there's a difference between those that can root against a team and maintain some level of reality and those who need to create some alternate reality where the nets "blew up" or "imploded" or lost because they were "dysfunctional". KD played like the hall of famer he is and the team around him just didn't play good enough (while the Bucks supporting cast did).
I can generally root against the Cowboys and at the same time understand that their season changed when Dak's foot almost snapped off. I also don't particularly revel in injuries even if it's a team I loathe but I suppose that's a personal decision.
A big FU to Kyrie as well! Love it.
Pot calling the kettle black.
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from grown men.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Pfffft. Ooooook.
There is the fact they should have overcome and still won.
Had they played and coached well they should have. They didn’t. It sucks
Talking about injuries isn’t an excuse it’s reality.
It’s drifting towards jets/eagles hybrid fan base -
Yeah, and if LeBron and AD don't get hurt the Lakers would be on they're way to repeating just about now.
If KD and Kylie had signed with the Knicks, you’d be licking their balls.
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It's tough to lose like that. And we've all been there. But I simply can't stand that brand of team building. And now the Nets players are complaining about injuries in the post game press conference. A completely unlikable, disingenuous, soft, and manufactured "team" who, regardless of my Fandom, I'd root to lose all day, every day. Garbage.
If KD and Kylie had signed with the Knicks, you’d be licking their balls.
Wrong. As I stated above.
I'll leave the ball licking to you.
So many tears.
Kyrie was legit hurt. He had a bad lateral ankle sprain. It's likely that he would have been unavailable for the rest of the playoffs had the Nets advanced
Nah, prolly not.
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
Not nearly as sad a a person signing a contract and then basically doing every thing g they can to sabotage their employer and fellow workers to get out of their responsibilities.
Only Lebron getting bounced is a better story.
Anyone who doesn't get why non Net fans are so happy is a moron
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
I think if Irving doesn't go down in this series, the Nets win in 6 tops. And if all three were 100%, Nets cruise to a title. But that's life.
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if they stay healthy. But the $64,000 question is, do they stay healthy? Durant, as great as he is, is playing on borrowed time with an Achilles tear on his injury history. Harden started to break down this year for the first time in his career, but I think he's the best bet to stay healthy for a full season. And Kyrie is always hurt.
That's the difference between this Nets "superteam" and the Lebron-Wade-Bosh Miami team and the Curry-Klay-Draymond-Durant Warriors. They had no injury issues when put together (Klay was pretty much never hurt before his two knee injuries recently)
I think if Irving doesn't go down in this series, the Nets win in 6 tops. And if all three were 100%, Nets cruise to a title. But that's life.
I also think their title window is one year (next year). After that, the injury history of KD and Kyrie becomes too much. Plus, after next season, they all have contract options to stay or leave
Good points all around. Remember when LBJ talked about the Heatles winning 8 titles? Haha. They got 2 & should have only had 1 (Damn you Ray Allen.)
Huh?
So as a Rangers fan you aren't allowed to hate the Islanders? Or as a Knicks fan you aren't allowed to hate the Nets? Weird take.
Almost all of the taunting of a fan base I see on this thread is Nets fans taunting Knicks fans. I’m sure I missed some but I don’t see a bunch of Knicks fans taunting Nets fans. I see Knicks fans taunting the Nets, not the fans. Nets fans are the ones that brought fan bases into this.
Most Nets fans on here are cool. It’s not their fault that the team they cheer for put together one of the least likeable cast of characters in sports. Maybe ever. And they shouldn’t take it personally when people express this sentiment. They’d all agree with us if this was the Lakers or Heat or Celtics that put that team together.
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of other NY teams that you don't root for is immature. Like or hate whatever teams you want, including NY teams. The taunting is juvenile. Just my opinion. Carry on.
Almost all of the taunting of a fan base I see on this thread is Nets fans taunting Knicks fans. I’m sure I missed some but I don’t see a bunch of Knicks fans taunting Nets fans. I see Knicks fans taunting the Nets, not the fans. Nets fans are the ones that brought fan bases into this.
Most Nets fans on here are cool. It’s not their fault that the team they cheer for put together one of the least likeable cast of characters in sports. Maybe ever. And they shouldn’t take it personally when people express this sentiment. They’d all agree with us if this was the Lakers or Heat or Celtics that put that team together.
Exactly right. We're not taunting the fans. We're taunting the team. They could wear any jersey and I'd give them hell for shitting the bed.
So many feelings and sensitivity. It's sports. Talking shit in sports is fun. As long as you don't take it personally, which is painfully obvious that's what's happening here. And I'M the one who needs to grow up? Please...
But even you guys have to admit the Nets becoming the new super team and being crowned champions before the playoffs started invites a healthy measure of derision. Not directed at you guys, at the media and some of the Nets themselves
The Nets have a couple really unlikeable guys. I can't say it isn't pretty satisfying to see Kyrie's team lose. Yeah I know he was really hurt. But fuck him anyway. Durant's an all-time great and played like it. Still not a huge fan.
I'm a Yankee fan, which means I rooted for the likes of Clemens, A-Rod, and several others who were jerks. I never stopped rooting for the Yankees, but had no problem with fans who were happy to see the Yanks lose bc they didn't like those guys.